GYMN-L Digest - 28 Apr 1996 to 29 Apr 1996

There are 4 messages totalling 104 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. What happened to Boginskaya
  2. Mary Lee Tracy & Joan Ryan (2)
  3. Dina Kotchekova / Liu's Bar

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Date:    Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:05:38 -0400
From:    ***@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU
Subject: Re: What happened to Boginskaya

     Yes, Svetlana Boginskaya was supposed to be in Puerto Rico, but she was a
no-show. All that the media was told was that Bela Karolyi changed his mind at
the last minute about sending her. Don't know why. I can't imagine the team
from Belarus was very happy about this, since by that time it was far too late
to fly in a replacement from Minsk. But congrats to Piskun for doing so well
and FINALLY getting some of the scores and attention she's deserved for YEARS.
     Begue of France suffered a serious injury and had to undergo surgery in
San Juan. I heard from a UKR judge who heard from a French judge that the
injury will keep her out of Europeans and, possibly, Atlanta. This is a big
disappointment (well, to me at least!) since she's one of the top members of
the incredibly innovative French team and would have been a real asset in
Atlanta. Possibly even a medal contender on floor. IMHO, the French have the
most interesting choreography in the world right now.

Beth

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Date:    Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:10:35 -0400
From:    ***@TSO.CIN.IX.NET
Subject: Mary Lee Tracy & Joan Ryan

In Today's Cincinnati Enquirer there was a very lengthy article on
Amanda Borden.  In it the recent negative hype courtesy of Ms. Ryan was
addressed.  Apparently, Tracy wrote to Ryan to complain about the one-sided
portrayal of gymnastics, and din infact receive a letter back from Ryan.
I can't quote it exactly, but it went something to the effect of she new
of the excellent reputation of Cincinnati Gymnastics, both coaches and
pupil alike.  Ryan said she felt it was obvious that Tracy's gym
understood the best the sport can offer and it showed it her athletes.

IT went on to say some other complimentary things as well.  Now where
was this for Oprah?  Too bad pleasant news doesn't get Nielsen points.

TTYL,
Liz B.

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Date:    Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:18:48 -0500
From:    ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: Re: Mary Lee Tracy & Joan Ryan

> In Today's Cincinnati Enquirer there was a very lengthy article on
> Amanda Borden.  In it the recent negative hype courtesy of Ms. Ryan was
> addressed.  Apparently, Tracy wrote to Ryan to complain about the one-sided
> portrayal of gymnastics, and din infact receive a letter back from Ryan.
> I can't quote it exactly, but it went something to the effect of she new
> of the excellent reputation of Cincinnati Gymnastics, both coaches and
> pupil alike.  Ryan said she felt it was obvious that Tracy's gym
> understood the best the sport can offer and it showed it her athletes.
>
> IT went on to say some other complimentary things as well.  Now where
> was this for Oprah?  Too bad pleasant news doesn't get Nielsen points.


Well, if this was the case, I wonder exactly where Joan Ryan stands
right now. Now she has to acknowledge there are happy ELITES in the
sport. Maybe we could get Cypress, and get Colorado Aerials to send
letters to. How about getting the collegiate programs to write to
her? Maybe enough letters could get her to acknowledege it publicly.

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Date:    Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:57:09 +1300
From:    ***@NETACCESS.CO.NZ
Subject: Dina Kotchekova / Liu's Bar

"7) I don't know if anyone on the list can answer this question, but I was
wodnering if anyone knows if Kotchekova is trained by Schevchencko."

She was coached by the Razumovskij Husband and wife team at the Army Club in
Moscow, but they are now coaching in Japan.  She is currently coached by
Leonid Arkaev,  as Jenny M has already said.

Jeffrey wrote again
) Dina deserved to win in my opinion. Lui had a couple of questionable
balance checks. Who knows how Marinescu stacked up. But, just PSYCHED
that Dina finally got a score that she deserves, considering the fact that
she was so underscored in Sabae on beam.

In Sabae in finals on landing Dina took a few steps, so her score was OK.
Some of the others however were overscored.

In reply to Christophers post re Liu's bar routine being scored low on
purpose.
The Start Value is set by the STC,  in conjunction with the WTC member and
the Expert at The apparatus.  The panel judges do not have a say in the
Start Value and they have to accept it.
I cannot believe that the "Expert panel"  would deliberatly downvalue a
routine as you have suggested.  Are you sure that it would have been a 10 SV
if the giant full was in hdstd.  Can you post the routine so that we could
work it out.  For all those gymners who haven't got TV coverage yet.
Avril

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