GYMN-L Digest - 27 Sep 1995

There are 9 messages totalling 256 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Eastern Bloc (2)
2. Amy Chow Replaced?
3. Women's world team
4. pre-Worlds thoughts
5. Phelps (fwd)
6. USA Women's World Team Answers
7. 1994 Women's NCAA (note the date)
8. Chow pulled from US team

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:52:49 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Eastern Bloc

I would like to know how the "Eastern Bloc" countries breakout for Olympic
teams since the former Soviet Union's fragmentation. Obviously Russia and
Ukraine are still strong, how many new, individual teams will be in Atlanta?
Also, how about the other "Warsaw Pact" and Balkan countries? It shoulde be
a spectator's bonanza! Any one have the complete story of "new faces"? Come
on you media marvels {smile}, this is simple background stuff for you...but
the rest of us could use a primer. My general, less-than-well-informed guess
is that there will be a whole lot more competitors and a lot more medals
going to athletes from basically the same place. What's the word?

Don

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:48:06 -0600
From: ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject: Re: Amy Chow Replaced?

I agree. I think that with all the injuries, USA might be worried
more about keeping CHINA off the podium, rather than maintaining
their second from Dortmund. In Dortmund, they won second without
Miller. But they had Dawes. Without her 9.85+ scores, is a silver
realistic? Yes, Strug will be there, as Miller, but Medals
are not always won by the last gymnast on each event; More like the
strength of the first few.

Jeff

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:51:39 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Women's world team

Does anyone know who is going to be on the world team? Is Andrea Pickens
really replacing Dawes?
Liz

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:27:59 -0400
From: ***@STYX.IOS.COM
Subject: Re: Eastern Bloc

Well since the Soviet breakup there are 15 countries instead of
one (16 if Chetchneya sp? gets its way). As for the ability to create 7
person gymnastics teams, the smaller republics probably can't. As for
individuals getting medals, they will probably come from those countries
that have strong teams (Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus). Just because there
are more athletes doesn't necessarily mean more medals (on the womens side
anyway, I don't really know about the mens but I think many more former
Soviets could medal). The womens unified gym team in Barcelona was from
Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan- those are basically the
republics that past soviet greats have come from- so I would assume that
they would still be coming from there.

> I would like to know how the "Eastern Bloc" countries breakout for Olympic
> teams since the former Soviet Union's fragmentation. Obviously Russia and
> Ukraine are still strong, how many new, individual teams will be in Atlanta?
> Also, how about the other "Warsaw Pact" and Balkan countries? It shoulde be
> a spectator's bonanza! Any one have the complete story of "new faces"? Come
> on you media marvels {smile}, this is simple background stuff for you...but
> the rest of us could use a primer. My general, less-than-well-informed guess
> is that there will be a whole lot more competitors and a lot more medals
> going to athletes from basically the same place. What's the word?
>
> Don
>

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:03:23 -0400
From: ***@PHOENIX.PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: pre-Worlds thoughts

Hi,
I have been reading all of the posts about the weekness of the US team
for Sabae, and I just wanted to add some comments. For one, I think the
fact that the team competition includes compulsories will help the US
team. If I remember correctly, the US and Romania were very close after
the compulsory competition at Dortmund, but that did not carry to the
finals. There are great compulsory competitors on the US team(Miller and
Moceanu, but also I think that Phelps and Thompson have great technique)
I do not think that team gold in Atlanta would be out of the
question if the US team takes a silver next week. I think its good that
the girls who will most likely be battling for the last few Olympic
berths will all have a world Championship under their belt. If the
Atlanta team has a healthy Miller, Moceanu, Dawes, Strug, and Phelps, and
anyone in contention for the remaining spots (Thompson, Chow, Borden,
Kulikowski, Pickens, Arnold) is an experienced world competitor, I think
they could be unbeatable.
For the all-around: I'm kind of expecting a similar scenario to
1991, with the top 6 being a mix of new and old faces. I refuse to count
Miller out (would she be the first to win 3 back to back titles). I also
think that Khorkina will do well. I don't know much about the up and
coming Romanians and Russians, but I expect Moceanu to do well (I hope
she has upgraded her tumbling). I hope to see her slightly off the Medal
Stand (Gutsu, Miller and Milo. were 5, 6, & 7 in 1991) so she doesn't get
too much attention. I wonder who the third US qualifier will be. I've
been pulling for Kerri Strug to do well in a worlds since '92-if she can
make the top three of the US team I think she would have the burst of
confidence needed for her to do well in the AA. Also, if Jaycie's injury
doesn't hamper her, I'm sure the international will love her polished
style and high level of difficulty.
Sorry to ramble on-what are other people's predictions? Can't
wait for the competition to start.
-Emily
P.S. If Dawes was injured since Nationals, why did she compete there and
at World Trials instead of skipping those so she could have been healthy
to compete in Japan?

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:45:25 -0400
From: ***@UMICH.EDU
Subject: Phelps (fwd)

Does anybody agree that it would not be in Jaycie's best interest to
compete at worlds with an injured knee? I don't know what kind of injury
that it is so I can't say anything. I don't think the US has to worry
about qualifying for the Olympics. I think that those who are injured
should relax. The Olympics are far more important. I believe with
gymnasts who are rested and fit. The United States would have a great
time in Atlanta. I know that the same thing was said about them in Sabae,
but Atlanta is the granddaddy of them all. Does anybody konw of people
who won the worlds and came back and won the Olympics or those who won
the olympics and came back and won worlds. Has anybody paid attention to
the post I had with all of those questions on it?



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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:00:39 -0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
To: Multiple recipients of list GYMN-L <GYMN-L@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: Phelps

HI!!!!!

In The Cincinnati Enquirer they had a very short article about Jaycie.
It said that Jaycie is going to compete in the worlds despite a knee
injury.
Bye!!!


Margi and Mardi :)

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:20:53 -0600
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject: USA Women's World Team Answers

Here is the deal with the women's world team.

1. Originally:

Chow, Dawes, Kulikowski, Miller, Moceanu, Phelps, Strug, Thompson

2. Then, Dawes withdrew primarily because of a wrist injury. She has
been working through this injury since summer. It was a medical
decision. Mary Beth Arnold, who placed 9th at Trials, was her
replacement.

3. Then, on Saturday, Amy Chow sprained her ankle in training. Andree
Pickens (10th at Trials) is now traveling with the team, but she is
not the official alternate, per USA Gymnastics. There is no official
alternate at this time.

So now, the team is:

Arnold, Kulikowski, Miller, Moceanu, Phelps, Strug, Thompson

With Pickens also traveling. I do not know if she will be named the
alternate at some point in the near future but as of today, she is
not.

Regarding health of team members: Phelps had (I believe arthroscopic)
surgery on her knee for (I believe) a torn meniscus. Thompson has
lower back problems.

Thanks to the non-American Gymners for their patience with this long
USA Team discussion!

Rachele

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:53:09 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: 1994 Women's NCAA (note the date)

Date sent: 27-SEP-1995 18:43:00

Well, today I finally got hold of my coaches copy of the 1994 NCAA's for
women. it's not the CBS coverage, it is done from a camera in the stands.
Extremely a lot of fun. I just wanted to point out a few things...and ask a
few questions...

1)Someone noted to me that Alabama uses their floor music for two years
and it gets monotonous. Wel there are some notable others who used
the same music this year. First, Megan Caudle of Utah (who says collegiate
can't do classical, I loved this) and also Katie Freeland of ASU.

2) Simpleer tumbling can be TERRFIC! Among the notable HUGE double backs
were the ones thrown by Caudle and Spivey-Sheely.

3)Elites can take a lesson from the collegiates on how to make front
tumbling interesting. Noable were Brinkman's tucked rudi through to
double back (wow) and Jennifer Wood's back 1 1/2 to front full. Err.
that should be notable up there.

4)Choreography was also terrific. The dance was really crisp (note Kim
Kelly's double twist jump to start off her routine, she looked much better
here than she did at nationals this year) and Aimme Trepanier and
Suzaanne metz both nailed some cool stuff as well.

5) And finally, a question.If anyone knows the name of the music Aimee
Trepanier was using for THIS year (1995, not 1994) would ya let me know.

I love this tape. tehre is some terrific gymnastics on here.

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:01:57 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Chow pulled from US team

For those who were interested: Amy Chow was scheduled to leave with the US
team Monday but sprained her ankle on Sunday night. In addition she pulled a
stomach muscle while at Poszar's gym in Sacramento Saturday which contributed
to her decision to pull out.

Amanda

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