GYMN-L Digest - 25 Apr 1996 - Special issue
There
are 24 messages totalling 607 lines in this
issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. INTRODUCTION
2. IG and NBC Web Page
3. training for
young gymnasts cial issue
4. Intro (2)
5. Re-introduction
6. Moceanu
7. training for
young gymnasts
8. Time and
money spent
9. Oz Gym
Alert!!!!
10. Gymn repeats on SportsChannel
11. GYMN-L Digest - 24 Apr 1996 to 25 Apr
1996
12. Job listing
13. Ignacio Morales
14. Gymnastics Camp
15. introduction
16. Introductions
17. how do
I...?
18. Re-Introduction
19. Diaz at Worlds?
20. Vitaly Scherbo's wife
21. NCAA RESULTS: SESSION 1
22. NCAA Womens,
Session 1
23. NCAA Results (Womens session 1)
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 07:50:29
-0300
From: ***@BRUNSWICKMICRO.NB.CA
Subject:
INTRODUCTION
Hi Everyone,
My name is Wanda. I am one of the old people. When I did gymnastics, many
years ago, there was no floor, just mats in corners and we
had a wooden beam.
This really
ages me.
I have stayed involved in gymnastics and now have a son,(12) who trains at the
National level. ( Canadian - Tyro National)
I have coached pre-school
special needs children (my babies), judged men's
gymnastics,
been treasurer of a local club, and now, I am on the Provincial
Gymnastics Association as Membership Co-ordinator.
I
will be attending the Canadian Nationals this year as Manager, but my son
will
not, his hand and finger is splinted as a
result of a fall. (Back tuck to a face
plant does
it every time) Why is always the simple skills that causes the
injuries?
Anyway, I enjoy this forum and I hope to meet
some members at Nationals this
year.
Wanda
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 06:26:16 CST
From: ***@CCLINK.NET.UOKHSC.EDU
Subject:
IG and NBC Web Page
The NBC gymnastics web
page, maintained by Internation Gymnast
Magazine has already
been loaded. The address is:
http://www.olympic.nbc.com
When you get there, go
to 'Sports on the Olympic Program', clock on
the
down on the selection field, select 'gymnastics' and click on the
<go
to> button.
I think it's great that we have that kind of information, even if
it
might be basic information, it will allow many to understand
the sport
a little better.
Also, it might send a
message to NBC, and other television stations,
if
many people access their gymnastics web page.
Ligia
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 08:08:58
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: training for young gymnasts cial issue
Allan,
No... those lights don't stay on and
the gym owner doesn't own a business to
not make
money - a lot of money. Take your
child into a gym, and see for
yourself. It's not a bad thing... just something
that is quite a trend in
the sport today.
The
reason the "team" has to fund raise is the gym doesn't want to dip
into
that profit margin.
Coaches don't
GIVE anyone an opportunity.
MM
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 08:09:01
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Intro
Hello,
My name is Mike, I am 27. I
competed HS and College gymnastics as
well as
judged. My best events were Rings, PBars and High Bar.
I love to
watch gymnastics on TV and am
still looking for a gym to go work out at...
but
I'm a bit heavy (196). I am a
technical recruiter now, and my little
Hannah is carrying the torch for the
family now.
My favorite gymnast is Paul O'neil...
for he is the MAN on Rings.
Mike
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 14:46:38
GMT
From: ***@M4-ARTS.BHAM.AC.UK
Subject:
Re-introduction
As we're on this topic, I thought I'd just say hello
again and
briefly explain who I am and what I'm
doing here.
My name's Bex, I'm a second year
German Studies student at the
University of Birmingham,
England. At 7/8 years old I
was doing 13
hours' training a week, which got
boring after a year or so, and
since then I've
almost always done some kind of recreational gym. I
have a
Class 5 women's artistic coaching qualification, but not much
opportunity to use it at the moment. I train here at the uni
when I
get round to it - we have a great new
facility, but these days I'm
feeling old and
out-of-shape, so training is kind of depressing! I
love
to watch (especially the women's artistic) but we don't get a
lot of TV coverage over here .. I'm looking forward to the
women's
Europeans which take place in this very
city next month!
I joined the list because I enjoy reading such a wide
variety of
views; I especially like the posts from
less well-represented places
(on Gymn, I mean) like Australia.
Finally, a request:
I'm going to spend next year studying in Germany
and
would love to be able to carry on training, and possibly helping
out with rec classes, if possible. Does anyone (German or not) know
of any gyms in the Augsburg area where I could get in touch?
You can
mail me privately in English or
German.
Cheers!
Bex
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:33:29
-0500
From: ***@CARLETON.EDU
Subject:
Moceanu
Does anyone know or think Moceanu will try for two olympics at this
point?
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Date:
Thu, 25 Apr 1996
11:41:18 -0400
From:
***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: training for young gymnasts
In a
message dated 96-04-23 06:04:31 EDT, you write:
>My question is
regarding training hours. My daughter is 6 and is doing
>gymnastics for 2 years now. She is training 10 hours a week
during winter
>and 12 during summer. I will
like to know from other parents and coaches
>what
is the trend for that age. How many hours of training in other clubs?
>
>Thank
you,
>
>
I have found that the more prominate
gyms with a strong competitive area are
more
likely to spend more time in the gym practicing than an area where the
competition is not as strong. What I mean is the area where there is a
less
likely chance of producing an olympic contender and the hours that your
daughter practiceseach week
depends on the level she is at.
Around the
Chicago area they practice a lot more than we do in our
gym in the Peoria IL
area. My daughter (11) is a Level 6 right now
and practices 10 hours a week
which is the same
for her teammate who is age 8-9 her birthday came in the
middle
of comp. season.
Visit some of the other local
gyms in your area and find out their hours.
You might be suprised
at the different requirements.
Yours in Gymn
Becky
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:41:24
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Time and money spent
>In regards to Mike Mayzaks
post regarding the "sickening" approach of
>team
coaches who are just after the revenue of extra training hours
I have
to dissagree also to Mike's post. I have always checked the practice
time required and the amount per month of the lessons for
hours spent in the
gym. There has not been one place yet who
could beat our prices. Around
Chicago, the parents
are spending $100 more than we are for the same amount
of
time. I think it has a lot to do
with the cost of living in that area,
for 10 hours
per week all we pay is $65. I also
have found in many areas,
the gymnast has to pay
for her coaches' registration for meets.
Again we do
not have to. One more thing I would also like to say, We have a
fundraiser
once a year to help cover the cost of
new equipment and we do not have a
booster club to
help with gym costs. I guess that's
why we have over 500
students in our gym and some
of the other gyms in our area went belly-up.
(IMHO)
Becky
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:41:25
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: Intro
Hello everyone,
I have posted a few times but also
don't think I have formally introduced
myself. My
name is Becky and I am a mother of two girls. I am from arround
the Peoria,IL area and we attend
the Gym Corner in Washington, IL. I
was a
gymnast as a small girl but never made it to
a competitive level. Now I am
just enjoying watching my girls achieve their dreams. And
before anyone
starts, I do not push them. They always have a choice of continueing or
trying
something different. I don't work anywere fancy Mostly a stay at
home
mom.
But I do help each day at my daughters school
as a supervisor. We
enjoy going to the different meets especially the ones in
Chicago so the
girls can stay in a motel. They like the indoor pool! We love to watch
gymnastics
on TV when it's aired and also enjoy watching figure skating. I
have the VCR warmed up to tape the olympics
because I fear we may be in the
gym when it's
on. Not much else exciting in this
life
So....who's next?
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:43:16
+1000
From: ***@JCU.EDU.AU
Subject:
Oz Gym Alert!!!!
SBS will be screening the World Gymnastics Champs
from Puerto Rico on
Thursday the 30th of April at 7pm-8pm.(QLD
time)
Yes Oz gymers we actually get an hour
of gym, dont ya just feel
so
envious of all the gym the US folks get on
their screens. Makes ya want
to
cry:(
At least we should get to see most of the medal winners.
Regards
Sharyn
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:48:00
EDT
From: ***@BBN.COM
Subject:
Gymn repeats on SportsChannel
My
TV Guide shows repeats in the coming week for both the Peachtree Classic
and the Reno Team Challenge on SportsChannel.
The
SportsChannels are regional, so check your local
listings.
>>Kathy
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 12:01:30
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: GYMN-L Digest - 24 Apr 1996 to 25 Apr 1996
>please
can someone explain to me what a healy looks like on
women's bars?
>thanks.
>Helen.
As
a mens' coach I can only relate what it looks like on
HB. Starting from a
handstand in undergrip, you fall forwards and release one hand, you
then
execute a full turn around the arm that is
still on the bar and recatch the
other hand in an undergrip again.
The hand that stays on the bar finishes in
elgrip. I hope that helps.
Dean
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 12:01:35
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Job listing
Rainbow Gymnastics in Ocala, Florida is looking for an
experienced
enthusiastic girls coach. Must be able
to coach modified optionals. Will be
required to teach preschool and recreational along with team
coaching
responsibilities. Salary
comensurate with experience. Interested
parties
please return this e-mail for phone number
to call.
Dean
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 03:09:01
+1000
From: ***@OZEMAIL.COM.AU
Subject:
Ignacio Morales
I would like to contact Bolivian gymnast Ignacio
Morales. The last I heard
is he was at the University of Washington. If anyone can help could they
please contact me at
Matt
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 13:16:30
-0400
From: ***@STUDENT.UMASS.EDU
Subject:
Gymnastics Camp
To those of you interested in gymnastics camps for
this summer, a company
called WomenSport
has a listing of girls camps. They
can be found on the
web at
http://www.womensport.com/ Just
follow the links for either
summer camps or
gymnastics.
I can highly reccomend the UMass
Girls Gymnastics Camp. If you have any
questions
about it, feel free to email me directly at e.baum@umassp.edu
For
those of you outside of New England, there are a number of other camps
listed.
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:26:45
-0400
From: ***@WCHAT.ON.CA
Subject:
introduction
I liked the idea that Kris had about re-introducing
ourselves; so here goes,
My name is Vicki and I am 19 years old. I am a Provincial level
athlete who still trains and competes. I live for the sport and I hope to
someday coach elite gymnasts. Currently I coach the pre-competitive
team at
my club and I hope that this is a stepping
stone for the future.
I have learned a lot from this list and I am
interested in hearing from you
all in the future.
Vicki.
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:25:09
-0400
From: ***@UNHF.UNH.EDU
Subject:
Re: Introductions
My turn...
I am the parent of a Level 5
competitive gymnast at a gym in Portsmouth, New
Hampshire. I've been a fan
of the sport ever since I was a little girl -- I
never
imagined that my daughter would one day take it up! <g>
I'm
also the co-president of our booster club, which almost killed itself this
year trying to raise money. We just netted $8500 hosting the
District 6 Level
10 Regional Champs., so we're
feeling much better about the end of the season.
Our top gymnast, Shannon
Bowles, is a senior international elite and ranked
15th
in the country. She is preparing for the US Classic in mid-May and
the
championships in Tennessee in June.
Of our
four Level 10's, three made it to the Level 10 National Championships in
Atlanta
next weekend -- the only three from New Hampshire! We only have 25
competitors from Level 5-Elite, but they've all had a good
season.
I really enjoy this list (I just ignore the flaming) and look
forward to asking
questions of all the experts out
there and getting meet results such as worlds
and
Olympics (I hope someone will cover the Olympics for those of us who gave
up cable for the sake of our kids! <g>).
Next!
Lynanne
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 17:13:19
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: how do I...?
>I no longer want the mailings from Gymn digest. I
have quit Rhythmic
>gymnastics and I would like
nothing more to do with it. how do I
discontinue
>this sevice?
Okay, since
a lot of people have posted to the list asking how to quit
GYMN-L, here's
the address to send commands to:
>All commands must be sent to the
>"LISTSERV
address", LISTSERV@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
>(or
LISTSERV@PSUVM.BITNET).
Dawn :)
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:09:12
CDT
From: ***@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU
Subject:
Re-Introduction
Hey everybody!
Once again, my name is Olin. I am 19 years old, and a sophomore
at
the University of Missouri at Columbia. I am a Secondary English Eduaction
major, probably
eventually going into educational counseling. I was a tumbler
since
age 11, moved on to cheerleading at age 14, cheered for Mizzou
for one
year, moved on to better and brighter
things, but still retained my love for
all
gymnastics in general. I recently
had the opportunity to start tumbling
again, due
to a job my friend acquired at a local gym, and I've been having a
blast. I'm
slowly getting things back, and my friend's been teaching me stuff
on the apparatus, as well. Last time he showed me how to do a kip
on high bar.
It was humorous, let
me tell you. :) Anyway,
that's me. Oh, I'm a big fan
of Mizzou gymnastics, and my
favorite gymnast is Amanda Borden.
Okay, who's
next?
OLIN
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:17:19
CDT
From: ***@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU
Subject:
Diaz at Worlds?
I remember hearing a lot of hype regarding the
possibility of Eileen Diaz of
Puerto Rico/ Cypress winning a medal before a
home crowd on bars at worlds.
However, her name failed to apper in the standings. Was she injured? Did she
not
score in the top group during prelims?
And what's her Olympic status?
Is
she in or out? Any info would be greatly
appreciated! Thanks!
OLIN
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:20:56
+0200
From: ***@PI.NET
Subject:
Vitaly Scherbo's wife
Sorry
if this question has been asked earlier, or if it allready
has been in the Gymn Forum.
A
friend of mine asked me what has happend with the
wife
of Vitaly Scherbo. She heard that she had a car accident, and
she wants to know how things are now with Vitaly's wife.
Does anyone know about the it? You can aswer me privatly.
Thanx,
Frans
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:39:20
CDT
From: ***@PROCTR.CBA.UA.EDU
Subject:
NCAA RESULTS: SESSION 1
Sorry
but this is brief. Have to get back
to Coliseum.
Session 1 Results:
Announced scores:
1. Georgia 196.40
2. UCLA 195.30
3. Michigan 193.975
4. Nebraska 193.950
Brief
Highlights:
Despite having numerous falls, Michigan nailed their last
rotation on
vault to move past Nebraska.
Georgia:
Leah
Brown scores a 10.0 on vault but falls on floor.
Lori Stong
falls on bars.
Karin Lichey competed on beam and
scored a 9.875.
Leslie Angeles stumbled out of bounds on floor for a
9.70.
UCLA:
Stella Umeh scored a 9.825
on beam.
Few problems on vault.
Good
all-around effort by this team.
Michigan:
2 falls
on floor, Kabnick & Burke.
2 falls on beam, Amalcovich &
McDonald.
2 falls on bars, Amalcovich & Peters(hands down on dismount)
Counted 1 fall on these
three events.
Nebraska:
Solid all-around
performances.
Counted no falls on beam in last rotation but not
enough to advance.
***************ROLL TIDE ROLL***************
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 17:53:39
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM>]
Subject:
NCAA Womens, Session 1
To All:
I'm
writing to you from the pressroom of the 1996 NCAA Women's Gymnastics
National
Championships. Here are the results from the first rotation:
Georgia: 196.400
UCLA: 195.300
Michigan: 193.975
Nebraska:
193.950
Penn State: 192.700
BYU:
192.500
Georgia, UCLA and Michigan will advance to the Super
Six tomorrow (Friday). I
will have the results
from the evening session after it ends tonight.
There was a big
controversy in the final rotation. Jess Swift of Nebraska
went overtime on beam but claimed she couldn't hear the
warning "yell" (there
was no bell, so
the judge yelled time). She was deducted anyhow. Keep in mind
that Nebraska was leading Michigan by 1.50 points going into
the final
rotation.
But Michigan nailed
vault in the final rotation, and that propelled them over
Nebraska, which
was on beam in the final rotation. Nebraska was the crowd
favorite to place, by the way.
All teams, every
one, looked flat.
That was reflected in the coaches
comments afterward:
Georgia Head Coach Suzanne Yoculan:
"Everybody competed but there were few
performances."
Georgia's
Lori Strong: "We approached this meet as a little bit of a warm-up
for tomorrow."
UCLA's Stellah
Umeh: We enjoyed the competition today instead of
making it a
stressful time."
Michigan
Coach Bev Plocki: "We had a rough day at the
office. I'm just
thankful we were able to squeek in. ...My heart goes out to Nebraska."
Michigan's
Wendy Marshall: "Tomorrow, you get to see what Michigan really
is."
The top all-arounders
from this session were:
Wendy Marshall, Michigan, 39.350
Kristen Quackenbush, West Virginia, 39.175
Lisa Simes, Michigan, 39.050
Special note: Lori Strong
fell on bars and Leah Brown fell on floor. Stellah
Umeh also fell on floor, as did Leslie Angelies.
That's
it for now. I'll write about tonight's session after it ends around 11
p.m. or so.
-- Ronald
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:38:58
-0700
From: ***@LELAND.STANFORD.EDU
Subject:
NCAA Results (Womens session 1)
Sorry if
this is a rerun, but here are the results:
NCAA Championships (W)
First Session
Team:
1. Georgia 196.400 49.400 49.175 49.025 48.800
2. UCLA 195.300 48.875 48.825 48.925 48.675
3. Michigan 193.975 49.475 48.125 48.125 48.250
4. Nebraska 193.950 48.650 48.950 47.900 48.450
5. Penn State 192.700 48.250 48.425 47.800 48.225
6. BYU
192.500
48.125 47.950 47.725 48.700
All-Around:
1. Wendy
Marshall
Michigan
39.350
9.925 9.700 9.825 9.900
2. Kristen Quackenbush WVU
39.175 9.950 9.725 9.650 9.850
3. Lisa Simes
Michigan
39.050
9.900 9.775 9.625 9.750
4. Lori Strong
Georgia 39.025 9.875 9.375 9.900 9.875
5. Leah Brown
Georgia 39.000 10.000 9.825 9.825 9.350
6. Leslie Angeles Georiga
38.950 9.800 9.850 9.700 9.600
Events:
Vault:
1.
Brown
Georgia 10.000
2.
Arnold
Georgia 9.975
3t
Peters
Michigan
9.950
3t Quackenbush WVU 9.950
5.
Marshall Michigan 9.925
6.
Simes Michigan 9.900
Bars:
1.
Beathard
Georgia 9.925
2. Umeh UCLA 9.900
3.
Homma
UCLA
9.875
4t Angeles
Georgia 9.850
4t DeHaan Nebraska 9.850
6t Brown Georgia 9.850
6t Muhleman Georgia 9.850
6t Leopoldus Penn St. 9.850
Beam:
1. Strong Georgia 9.900
2.
Lichey Georgia 9.875
3t
Chee
UCLA 9.850
3t
Portocarrero UCLA 9.850
3t Umeh
UCLA
9.850
6t Brown
Georgia
9.825
6t Marshall Georgia 9.825
Floor:
1.
Marshall Michigan 9.900
2.
Strong
Georgia 9.875
3. Quackenbush WVU 9.850
4t
Crandall BYU 9.825
4t
Homma
UCLA
9.825
6t Anderson BYU 9.800
6t
Arnold
Georgia 9.800
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