GYMN-L Digest - 23 Feb 1996 to 24 Feb 1996
There
are 12 messages totalling 422 lines in this
issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Olympic trials
2. gymn
on t.v.
3. new subscriber
4. Level 10 to Elite
5. IG delivery on the east coast amd midwest
6. Buckeye Classic (long)
7. Phys-ed
project
8. GYMN-L Digest - 22
Feb 1996 to 23 Feb 1996
9.
E-mail address + Book (2)
10.
ISO Coaching Position
11.
Changing of the guard
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:10:10 GMT
From: ***@NOBLESNET.ORG
Subject:
Olympic trials
I had heard that the Olympic trials were going to be
held in Boston this year,
my home town, but I
haven't heard anything about it. Does anybody know
anything
about it? If so, I'd love to hear
from you!
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:55:44
-0500
From: ***@EXPERT.CC.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:
gymn on t.v.
Could
someone send me an e-mail with the info. on Saturday's gymnastics
broadcast? I'd really appreciate it. Please send to my private address,
thank you.
Aaron
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:50:26
-0500
From: ***@DURHAMNEWS.NET
Subject: new
subscriber
Hi
everyone!
My
name is Jen (or Jenny, it doesn't matter to me), and I am
joining Gymn Forum through my
sister, Leslie's computer. I
attend
McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada where we are given
free
access to e-mail but it is virtually
impossible to get on the Internet.
For
this reason I will be unable to
subscribe to the Digest, but I hope to
correspond
to many gym fans through e-mail.
I
got hooked on gymnastics at a fairly young age when Leslie (who is
ten years older than I am) would sit me in front of her old
gym posters and
make me say "Davydova" and "Shaposhnikova". I was only three years old and
the conversion process had already begun!
Since those early days I have gained tremendous love and
appreciation for the sport. Through Leslie's enormous tape and
magazine
collection I have had access to gymnasts
before my time (I'm now 19 and I
was born,
ironically enough, on the day of the closing ceremonies of the
Montreal Olympics).
Some of my favorites are:
Comaneci (of course),
Yurchenko, Omeliantchik, Szabo, Silivas, Dobre and Frolova. From
today's
crop I fancy Kochetkova,
Khorkina, Begue and Marinescu.
I
hope to hear from other gym fans soon (I won't be able to respond
until Monday, Feb. 26 however) and, like my sister, I have
personal
information on Bontas,
Hadarean and Davydova.
Talk
to you soon,
Jen
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:54:33
-0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: Level 10 to Elite
In a message dated 96-02-23 14:03:25 EST, you
write:
>How does a level 10 become an elite? I have heard that there is some
kind
>of qualifying test, and then they must
meet a minimum score at level 10.
>Can you help?
>
A level 10
must hit a 36.00 AA at either Regionals or Nationals. Then she
must Do the Elite National Element Testing and score a
minimum of 33.00(not
easy). The text is available
through USAG as well as the video. She then must
attend
an Elite Regional Qualifier. If her scores are high enough she can go
from there to a Classic meet. The qualifiying
score tends to change a lot
though. Check that
qualifying score for 10's It's higher for seniors than
it
is for juniors. It may even be 37.00 this year.
It always seems to be higher
in Olympic
years.
Shelley
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:58:05
-0500
From: ***@UMICH.EDU
Subject:
IG delivery on the east coast amd midwest
I was wondering if there was someone
who lives on the east coast or
midwest
and can tell me how long it takes for their IG to be delivered to
their house. I
sent in the subscription a momth ago and have not
heard
from IG since. Since calling them would be
expensive I just wanted to
know how long it
takes.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:58:53
-0500
From: ***@USAID.GOV
Subject:
Buckeye Classic (long)
1996 Buckeye Classic
16-18 February
1996
Celeste Center, Ohio State Fairgrounds
Columbus, OH
Open
Competition (Saturday & Sunday)
Teams
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Cypress
A, B, C (TX)
Brown's (TX)
Camberley
(GBR)
Desert Devils (AZ)
Kentwood (MI)
Individuals: Michele Hess (Buckeye); Shannon McLemore &
Annette
Taylor (Cypress)
To say that Cypress dominated the
competition would be an
understatement. Cypress C & B took the first two
slots, and no
doubt they would have taken the
third as well if not for a sharp
squad from
Brown's, who finished about a fall ahead of Cypress A.
Their third place
finish was all the more impressive considering
they
only had four athletes (Amanda Curry, listed in the program,
did not compete).
A mature team
from Desert Devils were solid, particularly on FX
(the styles were reminiscent of NCAA routines), and finished
a few
points behind Cypress A; a young team of competitors from
Kentwood
finished sixth. Camberley, the
team from Great Britain, had
problems, especially
on beam, but were nevertheless upbeat and
performed
with enthusiasm.
Individually, Cypress claimed the majority of the top
15 spots,
with only 3 others---Bhardwj,
Diaz, and Katie Taylor---managing to
break
in. Andree Pickens (Cypress),
the top finisher, twice
received the high score of
this competition (9.85) on VT and FX,
and was
relatively clean enough on the other events to become the
only competitor to score over 39.00. Mohini Bhardwaj (Brown's),
who did
well on FX & UB, was uncharacteristically off on B (had to
touch the beam after performing a front tuck), and curiously
only
scored a 9.45 on what some thought was a
fairly good vault
(Yurchenko
1.5). Monica Flammer (Cypress) actually tied Bhardwaj--
-ties were broken by the highest score given to a
competitor---to
place third, and Aileen Diaz
(Brown's) and Kaitie Dyson (Cypress)
were both consistent, and finished in fourth and fifth
place.
Michelle Hess (Buckeye) was the lone representative from the
host
club in the open division, and did well on
her two strongest
events, V (9.4) and FX
(9.65). According to the Columbus
Dispatch
(02/18/96), the vault she performed---half on, half-off with a
half
twist---is one of her own invention.
In
the 9-14 category, Katie Taylor (Kentwood), Melinda Baimbridge
(Cypress),
and Kristen Thome (Cypress) were the top
finishers.
Both Taylor and Baimbridge had a good
meet, and both would have
finished even higher if
not for unfortunate breaks (Taylor sat down
her
double front dismount off UB, and Baimbridge had to
put her
hands down on her first pass on FX). Thome scored
consistently
between 9.275-9.45 and matched Baimbridge's score of 37.725
Other athletes of
note were Kendall Beck (Cypress), and Marie
Fjordholm
(Brown's), both of whom would have definitely been
higher
in the standings if not for serious
problems on an event.
Fjordholm had a rough time
on UB, scoring only a 7.95; Beck fell
twice
on B performing the most difficult routine of the competition
(see description below).
The good (i.e. close,
non-obstructed view) seats were reserved for
"patrons"
of the meet, so it was either the bleachers or the nose-
bleed
sections; I chose to sit in the
bleachers near the beam,
which meant that my view
of V was blocked. I also had a
difficult
time identifying athletes whom I did not
know on sight (I was using
their competition
numbers as a guide) on UB, so my descriptions of
those
events are, unfortunately, nearly nonexistent. I also caught
pieces
of routines from the corner of my eye, but I've only
described
those that I was able to view in their entirety.
Here is a guide to my
shorthand:
bh=back
handsprings
M=mount
DIS=dismount
ff=flip
flop (flick) RO=Round
off --->=through to
"+"
- indicates direct connection
1st
Rotation
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UB
Monica Flammer
- Markelov, Jaeger, double layout DIS
Andree
Pickens - Shaposhnikova, full-pirouette on top+reverse
hecht+gienger; toe-on Rudi DIS
Kaitie
Dyson - inverted giants, 1.5 twisting giant+reverse hecht;
double
layout DIS
FX
Kristen Thome - double
tuck, front layout+front tuck, double twist
DIS
Melinda
Baimbridge (Cypress) - full-twisting Shush,
front/w
full+front
tuck, 2.5 twist, double twist
DIS
Tara Phillips (Cypress) - full-in, 2.5 twist+punch front, triple
twist
DIS
Brittany Thome (Cypress) - whip ---> double tuck; triple
twist;
double twist DIS
Annette Taylor
(Cypress) - 2.5 twist; 2 whips --> double twist;
rudi+bh layout stepout
DIS
Marline Stephens (Cypress) - full-in; whip --> double tuck; 2.5
twist
DIS (fall)
BB
Katie Taylor (Kentwood) - ff+layout+layout+pikedown; front
tuck+jump; ff+bh+bh
double tuck DIS
2nd Rotation
-------------
BB
Kelly
Parkinson (Cypress) - ff layout ff; back dive
1/4; sheep
jump; front tuck; RO+bh+layout
DIS
Dyson - planche M; back dive 1/4; bh+bh+true
layout; jump+ back
dive 1/4; RO
double tuck DIS
Pickens - front tuck M; ff+ 2
layouts; front tuck+jump;
ff+bh+double tuck DIS
Flammer
- chin on M; jump+back dive 1/4 into
"her" planche; ff+
layout+ff; front tuck; RO+double pike
DIS
Beck - RO layout M; ff+full twist (fall); ff+2 layouts (fall);
jump+Rulfova; ff+bh+double
tuck DIS
Kelly Cristensen (Desert Devils) 2.5
twist; front
handspring+front w/full; double twist DIS
3rd
Rotation
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FX
Dyson - full-in; front w/full+front
tuck; double twist DIS
Kelly Parkinson
- full-in (very high);
2.5 twist punch front;
front w/full+front tuck DIS
Beck - full-in; 2.5 twist+punch
front; triple twist DIS
Pickens - front w/full+front
w/full; double
tuck; front
w/full+front tuck DIS
BB
Julie Rankin (Brown's) - press handstand
M; ff+layout; jump+back
dive 1/4; RO
double twist
Marie Fjordholm - press to handstand M; ff+3 layouts; RO double
tuck
DIS
Aileen Diaz - RO layout M; ff+2 layouts; jump+Korbut; RO double
pike
DIS
Mohini Bhardwaj -
front tuck M; ff+3
layouts; side somi; front
tuck
(had to touch beam); jump+back dive 1/4;
RO double tuck DIS
4th Rotation
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FX
Bhardwaj - triple twist; front w/full+front
layout; rudi
DIS
UB
Katie Taylor - full pirouette+gienger; jaeger+straddled somi to
lowbar; double front DIS (sat down)
BB
Stephens
- ff+layout+ ff; back dive
1/4; ff+bh+double
tuck DIS
Phillips - M with consecutive flairs (!); ff+layout+ff (break);
back dive
1/4; two jumps+Chen; headstand; RO double tuck DIS
Annette Taylor -
RO layout M; Korbut; ff+layout; Rudi
DIS
Brittany Thome - headstand M; ff+layout+ff
(was surfing there for
awhile but stayed on); double twist DIS
Lindsey Wing
(Cypress) - ff+2 layouts; front tuck (fall);
jump+back dive 1/4; double twist DIS
Baimbridge
- press to handstand M;
back dive 1/4; ff+2
layouts;
Rulfova; ff+layout+bh+double tuck DIS
Event finals has
already been discussed, so I don't have too much
more
to add. I can provide the top three
scores on each event,
however:
VAULT-- 1. Bhardwaj (9.775); 2. Diaz
(9.650); 3.
Beck (9.55)
UNEVEN BARS-- 1. Bhardwaj (9.775); 2. Pickens (9.750); 3. Flammer
(9.700)
BEAM-- 1.
Bhardjwaj (9.775); Baimbridge
(9.700); 3. Fjordholm
(9.575)
FLOOR EXERCISE-- 1. Bhardwaj
(9.750); 2.
Fjordholm (9.625);
Christensen (9.625)
Mohini performed with much more assurance during EF than
during the
team competition, and with Pickens and Flammer only competing UB,
she
had no problem sweeping the medals.
She was somewhat fortunate
that Competition
1 rules were being used for finals, however, as
she
sat down her first vault.
The Open Competition was by no means the
only event occurring over
the weekend. The Celeste Center was divided into
three sections,
and close to 40 meets consisting
of levels 4-10 were held from
early in the morning
to late in the evening (afternoon on Sunday).
Reportedly close to 2,000
athletes were present at Buckeye (the
Presentation Ceremony on Saturday, in
which all of the gymnasts
were presented to the
audience, had to be seen to be believed), and
while
it was impossible to see everything, I did manage to see a
few of the other levels compete. Clubs of note in these levels
were Flytz, Buckeye, and the
American Twisters. While I am
not
crazy about compulsories, I will say that it
was just as enjoyable
watching the Level 5 and 6
athletes go through their routines as it
was the
optional gymnasts.
-----ge
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 21:58:33
-0600
From: ***@SCOTT.NET
Subject:
Re: Phys-ed project
Why don't you try
something on the line of the Presidental Physical
Fitness
Testing results between school kids who take gymnastics and one who
do not.
My daughter, who was 9 in December broke 3
school records in the physical
fitness
testing. I was very impressed with
the results when I saw the ages of
the kids which
she beat out.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:34:16
-0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: GYMN-L Digest - 22 Feb 1996 to 23 Feb 1996
Somebody in the last
digest asked when the Kodak invitatoinal ws on t.v.
Well, if it's the
Kodak Peachtree Invitational, then I'm almost sure it's on
Feb. 24th, at
8:00pm est. on ESPN. This is only for New York, so Im
not
exactly sure about other places.
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:19:26
-0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
E-mail address + Book
It took a lot of e-mailing and a lot of
rejection, but I would just like to
tell all of
you that ***@aol.com and ***@aol.com are the same
person.
I use *** as my aol screen
name at my dad's house, and ***
as my aol screen name at my mom's house. Basically what I'm
trying to say is
that you can send your mail to eithe addresses, because I check them
everyday. Also, I just wanted people to be aware of this,
because I'll use a
different screen name,
depending on where I am.
Next, I would like to know if anyone out
there has ever read the book "A Very
Young
Gymnast". by Jill Krementz. If so e-mail
me. Has anyone ever heard of,
or does anyone know
what happend to Torrance York? She seemed like a
very
talented gymnast. At ten-years-old she won
the NY City Championship (1978 I
think). Also, has
anyone ever heard of or know about Jackie Cassello? She was
a Junior
National Team member in 1978, and I'd like to know if she ever made
it to seniors. She was coached by Muriel Grossfeld,
but grew up in NY.
Thank you for your time, hope to hear from you all
soon, at either e-mail
addresses!!
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:26:22
-0500
From: ***@LEARN.SENECAC.ON.CA
Subject:
ISO Coaching Position
To: gymn-l@psuvm.psu.edu
As many of you
are affiliated with one or more gymnastic clubs across the
US and Canada I
was wondering if anyone knows of any available coaching
positions. I'm a level 3 NCCP Women's coach having
spent the past two
years working with High
Performance athletes. I will be
available
following the Canadian National
Championships (beginning of June '96).
If you know of any jobs or would
like more info or a resume I would
greatly
appreciate your correspondance.
Allan
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:43:03
-0500
From: ***@YALE.EDU
Subject:
Re: E-mail address + Book
> Next, I would like to know if anyone
out there has ever read the book "A Very
> Young Gymnast". by Jill Krementz. If so e-mail me. Has anyone ever heard
of,
> or does anyone know what happend to Torrance York? She seemed like a very
> talented gymnast. At ten-years-old she won the NY City
Championship (1978 I
> think). Also, has anyone
ever heard of or know about Jackie Cassello?
She was
> a Junior National Team member in
1978, and I'd like to know if she ever made
> it
to seniors. She was coached by Muriel Grossfeld, but
grew up in NY.
I have that book.
Last I heard she went to Yale and competed on the
gymnastics
team here. My sister saw her
compete once. I figure
she graduated circa 1990, but I don't know for sure. I could probably ask
the coach sometime if she knows anything.
:)
Adriana
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:10:45
EST
From: ***@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject:
Changing of the guard
I just returned from
the Georgia/Kentucky meet where I witnessed
the
most impressive display of gymnastics that I have ever seen.
However, I am
not talking about Jenny Hansen, who did have a decent meet
(39.65). Georgia freshman Karin Lichey scored a 40.00 in the all-around
Yep, you read
that right. I knew when she nailed
her beam routine that
she had a chance, but I was
concerned that she would let the possibility
of a
perfect score distract her on her floor routine. Nope, perfect.
She received a five minute standing ovation and hugs from both
schools'
gymnasts and coaches. Her dad presented her the all-around
medal and
flowers during the awards ceremony.
Paul
"Do
or do not...There is no try."---Yoda
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