GYMN-L Digest - 19 Aug 1995
There are 13
messages totalling 375 lines in this issue.
Topics
of the day:
1. Kim
2. Trick Update
3. test
letter
4. Senior Women's AA
Broadcast
5. Dominique Moceanu
6.
Jr champ to Sr champ
7. Nationals (2)
8. Women's Event final
9. new gymn commentator?
10. Coverage
11. Khorkina
article
12. commentators
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:02:56
-0400
From: ***@NETINS.NET
Subject:
Kim
When I was at camp Kim was there but Bela
couldn't come because of a "meet"
what
happen to be the same time as nationals
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 18:44:58
CDT
From: ***@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Subject:
Trick Update
Could someone please explain the new tricks which have
become commonplace and
review release moves on the
bars. Terms like Ivanova, Omelianchek,
Onodi, etc.
Thanks:) Brenda
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 20:38:53
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
test letter
Hi All,
Sorry to send this to the list, but needing a
test letter!
Jim
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:47:36
-0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject:
Senior Women's AA Broadcast
Date sent: 19-AUG-1995 19:46:17
I don't have
time to do too much commentary, but just wanted to add that
Jaycie's new music is GREAT! When they said she dropped the
classical, I
all of a sudden had that music in my
head. And it was! It suits her. NBC
should be shot
for their lack of coverage though, and the new vaulting
bonus
sucks.
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 21:10:13
-0400
From: ***@DELPHI.COM
Subject:
Dominique Moceanu
Dear Gymners,
Just
finished watching Nationals on TV.
Dominique Moceanu went from 94
Junior Nationals Champ. to 95
Senior National Champ. Is this the
first time
this has occurred? Who else has done it? When?
Gymnastically yours,
David
=]
PS- I was disappointed that Shannon changed her floor music. The music she
used
at the Kodak invitational was GREAT!
Anyone else share my feelings?
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 21:24:36
-0400
From: ***@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU
Subject:
Jr champ to Sr champ
I could be mistaken
about this, because I haven't looked it up, but
didn't
Kristie Phillips go from junior champion in 1986 to senior champion in
1987?
Beth
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 21:47:38
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Nationals
I'll break down my comments and questions from tonight's
coverage:
1. Moceanu- looked really amazing. All the difficulty was there, but I
was
most of all impressed by the poise and
positive attitude. I don't think Bela
needs to worry too much
about his self-named "Zmeskal
Syndrome." Dominique
seems to like the expectations to win and the comparisons to
Nadia, and she
touted herself the 1996 Olympic
Champ three years ago. In response
to
someone's question- Zmeskal
won back to back Jr. and Sr. titles in 1989 and
1990. I don't know any others off the top of
my head.
2. Miller- I'm really
impressed. She looks so mature, yet
has upgraded her
difficulty. (esp. floor
with 4 passes including two full-ins and a double
front
twist) She seemed even more dissappointed than last year. I hope she
wins
an event title (floor and vault would be my choices for the most
probable)
3.
Phelps-
NBC didn't show the beam, where she had some problems, or
the
vault, where she got good scores. But what I did see was the most
dramatic
improvement since the last time she was
on TV (World Trials, Mixed Pairs)
Her lines are beautiful and her
difficulty is good. Watching
the
improvement she has made over the past two
years, I'll definitely consider
her to be a major
player for 1996.
4. Dawes- The floor makes her look sluggish. She is older and taller, but
she can still tumble.
She needs a new routine that's not as bouncy as '92,
but that still shows off what she can do. The 1994 routine was much better!
In general, she did not look as confident
or sharp as last year. I
wouldn't
say her time has passed, though.
5. Strug- Why can't NBC show more than the routines of the top
4??? From
the
reviews here, it sounds like she had three routines that would have
merited coverage.
I hope to see her on TV in the event finals. (Maybe in
the
running for a bars or vault title, I hope??)
***Coverage- I would be perfectly
happy to lose the prime time slot in
exchange for
two or three hours of coverage of routines in the afternoons.
***Since
NBC is so limited in coverage, Thanks So Much to those of you who
are there and sharing with us what's really going on!!!
-Emily
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:53:15
-0600
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject:
Women's Event final
1995 U.S. Championships
Superdome, New
Orleans, LA
Women's Gymnastics, Event Finals
19 August 1995, Saturday
Vault
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1.
Shannon Miller (Dynamo), 9.837
2. Heather Brink (Dynamo), 9.781
3.
Dominique Moceanu (Karolyi's),
9.756
4. Dominique Dawes (Hill's Angels), 9.643
5. Jaycie
Phelps (Cincinnati), 9.581
6. Mohini Bhardwaj (Brown's), 9.337
Uneven Bars
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1.
Dominique Dawes (Hill's Angels), 9.912
2. Doni
Thompson (Colorado Aerials), 9.862
3. Kerri Strug
(Colorado Aerials), 9.812
4. Mohini Bhardwaj (Brown's), 9.750
4. Jaycie
Phelps (Cincinnati), 9.750
6. Dominique Moceanu (Karolyi's), 9.262
Balance Beam
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1.
Doni Thompson (Colorado Aerials), 9.687
1. Monica
Flammer (Cypress), 9.687
3. Dominique Dawes
(Hill's Angels), 9.600
4. Reagan Tomasek (Hill's
Angels), 9.500
5. Dominique Moceanu (Karolyi's), 9.100
6. Alecia
Ingram (Dynamo), 9.037
Floor Exercise
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1.
Dominique Dawes (Hill's Angels), 9.900
2. Dominique Moceanu
(Karolyi's), 9.800
3. Shannon Miller (Dynamo),
9.775
4. Kerri Strug (Colorado Aerials),
9.725
5. Heather Brink (Dynamo), 9.375
6. Jaycie
Phelps (Cincinnati), 9.087
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 22:12:58
EDT
From: ***@AI.MIT.EDU
Subject:
new gymn commentator?
Those of you who are
new to the list probably don't even know who I am,
as
I've been too busy to post (or even keep up a lot of the time) lately.
But
I helped Rachele start this list, way back when. Other "old-timers"
might remember that almost 2 years ago I had a baby (my
first, and so far
only). I hope you'll indulge my presentation of
Ryan's commentary on the
NBC coverage tonight.
Ryan
noticed the TV during Jaycie Phelps' floor
routine:
Ryan: who's dat?
Me:
That's Jaycie
R: Jaycie's
on the TV now
M: Yes she is, look what she can do...
<Jaycie does her first tumbling pass>
R: Upside
down! She's upside down now! Oh Coke-Cola! (did
*you* notice
the advertisement beside the floor
mat?) We had coke-cola in the
car...
Ryan lost interest until Dominique M's floor routine.
<Dom
does her first tumbling pass>
R: Yay!! <clapping> Oh Coke-Cola! We had coke-cola in the car...
(yes, a 2-year-old is even better than an echo)
<Ryan
is quiet until the end of Dom's routine>
R: Yay!! <more
clapping>
Looks like he's going to end up being a bit tall to be a
gymnast, but
perhaps he has a bright future as a
gymnastics commentator. Not a
single
comment about how wide the beam is, or how
much pressure these girls are
under... I think I
like his style :)
Ryan didn't have much to say about the scoring, but
his mommy would love to
know what kind of special
bonus rules they were using to allow Dominique D.
and
Shannon to get 9.95's on less-than-spectacular renditions of admittedly
hard vaults.
--Robyn (proud mommy to Ryan
9/7/93)
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:30:04
-0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject:
Nationals
I really liked Dominique Dawes's new floor music better than
her last
one. She has gotten so much taller and
more mature she looks better
doing it. The last
routine I got sick of watching after the first time.
I still like her
tumbling though :)
I was shocked to see that Shannon got new music. She
just changed it! I
liked it but I liked the other
one too because it was different. While
I am on the subject on music, it seems like Lavinia Miloscivici changes
her music
in every meet I see her in. She changes music more than she
changes her underwear! :) Just kidding, I hope :) I really
like her new
one that she had in the team worlds.
It was cool. I really thought that
Kerri Strug's
old country routine was awesome too. I like her new one
but
her other one was sooooooo cute and the country one
is hard to beat
:) It seems like Kerri changes hers a lot too.
I
was very disapointed not to see Amanda Borden but for
all of those
people that live in Ohio that get
channel 5 news, they are having a
story about Mary
Lee Tracy on "Upclose with Norma Rashid"
Monday at
11:00 PM. It looks good. Thet had an advertisement
during nationals.
I was also disapointed on
the coverage of the Nationals. I know that
they
have other things to show but they could show but they only showed
the top four gymnasts. Kerri Strug
is a great gymnast and they could
have shown one
routine! I really liked the story about Dominique
Moceanu.
The Shannon story was a bit brief (and tacky :) )but
it was
cute.
Wasn't Dominique Moceanu's sister? (they showed her
at the end)
adorable!! She looked just like
Dominique :) I know this is being a bit
picky but
why doesn't Shannon's coat (red and white Dynamo jacket)
match
her leotard (pink and black Dynamo). I know I am getting into the
details but shouldn't they match? I always thought that
Dynamo's colors
are pink white and black. I like
their new leotard though.
Wasn't Jaycie's
leotard awesome! I also like Dominique Dawes but she
could
have lost the sprinkles in her hair. She didn't even have
sprinkles in her leotard! I like the sprinkle idea but I
prefer it if
they have it in their leo. I know I am being criticle
so I guess I'll
shut up in a minute. :)
I
liked the way Jaycie Phelps smiled when she was done
her routines. I
really liked her new floor music.
It was a lot better than her
classical. It showed
more personality. I loved her double front. :)
Also, isn't Katie Dyson
subscribed? If she is, good job! I didn't see
you
compete but great place! Bye!
Margi :)
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 22:36:50
-0400
From: ***@INTERACTIVE.NET
Subject:
Coverage
The tv
coverage of nationals was truely pitiful. what ever happened to Kerri
Strug
and Amy Chow. At the 94 Worlds the commentators were saying how Amy
could be the next star with the way she sparked the US teams
performance and
now they dumped her for the next
media blitz. Not that I have anything
against
Dominique Moceanu, I think its about time that the
ex-juniors take
their rightful spots on the team.
After all they need to build their names
for
Atlanta. Congratulations to the two who finally broke
through Dominique,
and Jaycie.
They were great.
Lori
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:42:08
-0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject:
Khorkina article
That was a really good article about
Svetlana Khorkina. Thanks Beth
for
translating it. Since Jaycie is from Cincinnati,
where I live, they
will probably have an article
about her tomorrow although they don't
seem to
like writing about Amanda and big meets like this they seem to
be a bit slow on. We should see an article by next month :).
They'll
probably write how Amanda got injured and
mention briefly about how
Jaycie beat returning
champion Dominique Dawes. They always seem to
have
a local angle on it and won't even mention how a 13 year old won
and Jaycie, a 15 years old from
Cincinnati did so well. Oh well, just
assuming
that they have an article I will send a brief summary about it
and I will try to sum up the interview with Mary Lee Tracy
after it
(11:00 PM... yawn.. :) ) Or if I end up taping it I will report
in the
morning. I gues I
am just babbling so I'll go now.... I ca't wait
till
the competition on tomorrow....Bye!
Margi
:)
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:56:18
-0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject:
commentators
That Ryan thing was cute :)
I am personally very
sick of the commentators. I was sooosooosoooo
sick
of Julianne McNamara in the Olympic Festival
and Elfie Schlegal (sp?)
saying that EVERY time a young gymnast messed up or did
something wrong
they would say "Well, once
again their inexperience is shining
through."
I was about to press the mute button (except it was mainly
floor exercise and the tv. up in my room doesn't have a remote so I
would have to get up :) But if it did and it wasn't floor
exercise, I
would have :) ) What is it, some new deal with
Tylenol?...headaches..Tylenol...ha ha ha (Mardi put in that
part)
Watching the Olympics I noticed that their
was some way Elfie managed
to keep quiet during a
floor routine...she's not dead yet... she wasn't
fired...the
world kept spinning.... and we understood when someone did
a back flip or stepped out of bounds or fell on their
butts.
I know this is pretty mean but I am getting sick of it.
Actually I did
notice when Mary Lou came on during
the Olympic Festival event finals
and commentated
there was a rair moment where Julie Ann wasn't
talking.
:) Since I am talking about the event finals..
who ever won the Mary
Lou Retton award? Just wondering. Bye!
Margi :)........and Mardi ;)
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