GYMN-L Digest - 17 Jul 1996 - Special issue
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are 23 messages totalling 603 lines in this
issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. (Fwd) Bican not competing
2. (Fwd) Re: Practice in the Georgia Dome
3. Will NBC Deliver? (2)
4. Amanda Borden (2)
5. Atlanta
6. Atlanta/MARTA
7. CBC French verses English
8. Kerri?
9. Canadian Olympics (2)
10. olympic
timetables (2)
11. Travel in
Atlanta
12. TV Coverage Taping
(2)
13. Shannon at podium
training.
14. This weekend on
NBC
15. Italian gymnast
(2)
16. The Men
17. UKR Olympic Web Page
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 06:50:40
+0000
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject:
(Fwd) Bican not
competing
> The word is that Bican is not
competing, but had to go home - she has a torn
> ACL. I don't know how it happened,
I do know it happened a couple of days
> ago. The coaches did call their federation
for them to send over their number
> 8 gymnast - not sure who.
Bican did not go home; she will have surgery here in
Atlanta. She tore her
ACL in
training on a Yurchenko double full, on the
13th. I'm not sure that
the coaches called the federation -- Belu
remarked that there was a seven
hour time change
from Romania to Atlanta, and that required six days to
acclimate...
therefore, it was too late to call for a seventh gymnast. Also,
it
appears that their 8th gymnast (Camille? who competed at 96 Worlds? I'm
very vague on this, but it *wasn't* Cacovean)
has a back injury and so wasn't
available
anyways.
Rachele
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 06:55:10
+0000
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject:
(Fwd) Re: Practice in the Georgia Dome
>
>What is podium training? How many people judge compulsories and what
is
> >meant by the different sessions and
putting people on different
> >apparatus?
>
There is no judging - it is exactly what it sounds like -- training. The
>... The judges are required to be there
to
> just get an idea of what some of the moves
look like, what might be new,
> condition of
athletes, etc.
Actually, the judges *do* judge the routines, but they
do not hand out the
scores and the judging is not
in any way "official" scoring.
The judges do
practice by judging the
routines, however.
For compulsories, podium training gives everyone a
chance to see how other
teams are interpreting the
moves. For example, all of the Chinese
(and some
Russian) women end the first pass on floor with a bounce into
split leap,
whereas most other teams just have a
bounce (which is how the compulsory was
dictated). The change to split leap is the Chinese
way of stylizing the
routine. Podkopayeva,
on the jump full turn on floor, beat her legs... only
gymnast
I know of to do that.
Rachele
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 08:17:53
EDT
From: ***@COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject:
Will NBC Deliver?
Does anyone on this list know if USA Gymnastics or
Frank Endo
or another merchant will have tapes of
the Olympics for sale
after the competition has
ended?
I am asking because NBC has said they are going to have a
LOT
of those damned fluff pieces which means if a
gymnast is not
an American or in the top 6, we'll
never get to see them on
NBC broadcasts. I, for one, am going to miss the Triplecast.
It was nice to actually SEE some routines
from gymnasts who
weren't in the running for
medals.
Perhaps someone on this newsgroup who lives in another
country
would be willing to trade a copy of their
broadcast for a copy
of the US broadcast?
I
wonder if NBC is going to do the typical "show 3 routines, cut
to a track and field event, show 2 more routines, cut to
diving for
five minutes, etc..." I just wish they would show the
different
sports in blocks instead of jumping back
and forth. I have a feeling
a lot of us who tune in to the Olympics to actually WATCH
the sports
are going to be disappointed.
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:24:28
-0400
From: ***@FLX.COM
Subject:
Amanda Borden
I read in USA Today that Amanda Borden has decided to
turn professional
after the Games, and will not be
attending the University of Georgia
after
all. Apparently she has an offer to
go on tour. I didn't
realize that a gymnast who is basically ranked about #5 in
the U.S.
would have so many professional
money-making opportunities.
Apparently
Amanda has been recognized as a very charismatic
performer.
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:29:39
-0400
From: ***@SWOSU.EDU
Subject:
Atlanta
Greetings all,
We are leaving for Atlanta on
Friday. We have tickets for 9:00 sunday
morning women's gymn and monday morning men's gymn. Does anyone who has
been there or is there now know how the park and ride and
buses on N I-75
are running. We are planning on being at the lots
around 6 am but need to
know what to expect. Sounds like the MARTA system parking and
such are
jammed packed.
Thanks for your
help
Marci
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 06:43:39
PDT
From: ***@SPC5.JPL.NASA.GOV
Subject:
Atlanta/MARTA
Hi,
I am heading to Atlanta this weekend for
gymnastics on Sunday and Monday
and would like to
know the best way to get to the Georgia Dome from
Union City (southwest
side of Atlanta). I was planning on
driving
to a park and ride lot, but they sound
like they might fill up quick.
Any suggestions? Go ahead and try the park and ride lot
(early)?
Or just take a bus all the way into downtown?
Any help is
appreciated.
Thanks.
Kevin
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:08:16
+0600
From: ***@COGNOS.COM
Subject:
Re: CBC French verses English
>Yet another question for the
Canadians on the list. Do French andEnglish CBC
show the exact
same routines or do things sometimes vary.
>In other words would it be a
waste for me to tape coverage on both thestations?
Both
CBC and SRC (French) use the same cameras, but they have different
production teams. So you never know who
one will show and not the other,
and who will show
what live versus taped. Bernard Petiot, coach of Club
Gymnix, will do commentary
for SRC, and Carol Orchard, coach of Sport
Seneca, will comment for
CBC.
Also, CBC NewsWorld (cable) will
provide a great deal of coverage from
the same
cameras, but again different production crew.
BTW, Lise
(Arsenault) Goertz, a '72 & '76 Canadian Olympian
and
esteemed Brevet candidate judge, is doing the
French announcing at the
Georgia Dome.
Regards,
Grace
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:57:32
-0400
From: ***@ISMI.NET
Subject:
Kerri?
To all those at podium training,
I was just curious as
to your predictions of the outcome of the competition
in
Atlanta now that you've seen the gymnast.
Can Shannon actually win the
AA gold? WHat about Moc? Also, do
y'all foresee Kerri qualifying for any
event
finals or perhaps AA? Thanks!
DEAN
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:00:48
-0400
From: ***@ISMI.NET
Subject:
Canadian Olympics
Hey!
If anyone plans on taping soley off of CBC French (which I don't understand
but still love the gymnastics), I will be taping ALL of NBC
(is that the
right letters?) coverage
of gymnastics, however, since the routines shown
may
be different I was interested in trading after the olympics
so I could
have coverage of both. If you want to talk about it write me
please!
DEAN
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:01:49
-0400
From: ***@KENT.NET
Subject:
olympic timetables
These
are the official gymnastics times from the CBC sports page:
(CBC! CBC!
CBC!)
*Saturday, July 20th*
Men's team compulsories -
9:15-11:23, 12:30-2:38, 4:30-6:38
*Sunday, July 21st*
Women's
team compulsories - 9:30-1:05, 3:00-6:40
*Monday, July 22nd*
Men's
team optionals - 9:15-11:23, 12:30-2:50
Men's
team optionals and finals - 4:30-7:13
*Tueasay, July 23rd*
Women's team optionals - 9:30-12:53
Women's team optionals
and final - 3:00-7:03
*Wednesday, July 24th*
Men's
individual all-around final - 4:15-6:59
*Thursday, July
25th*
Women's individual all-around final - 4:15-7:06
*Sunday,
July 28th*
Men's floor exercise final, Women's vault fina., Men's pommel horse final,
Women's uneven bars final, Men's rings
final - 9:30 pm - 11:41 pm
*Monday, July 29th*
Men's
vault final, Women's balance beam final, Men's parallel bars final,
Women's
floor exercise final, Men's high bars final - 8:30 pm - 11:10 pm
*Tuesday,
July 30th*
gymnastics exhibition - 4:00pm -
6:00 pm
I wonder what this entails?
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:25:06
-0400
From: ***@UMICH.EDU
Subject:
Re: Canadian Olympics
ditto... i will be
unable to tape the CBC version but would love to be
able
to trade tapes.
let me know if anyone is
interested.
> Hey!
>
> If anyone plans on taping soley off of CBC French (which I don't understand
> but still love the gymnastics), I will be taping ALL of NBC
(is that the
> right letters?) coverage of gymnastics, however, since the routines
shown
> may be different I was interested in
trading after the olympics so I could
> have coverage of both.
If you want to talk about it write me please!
> DEAN
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:32:44
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Travel in Atlanta
Hi everyone,
All of this talk about Atlanta
being so crowded and no parking spaces is
scaring me. I will be there on Monday and seeing the womens team on Tuesday
(as
well as volleyball and baseball later in the week). I got my
accomidations through the Olympic
Travel Network, and when I got all of the
information
they gave me a parking lot and said I had a spot reserved. Am I
just being naive to expect that I will have a spot waiting
for me? Can anyone
who is there already (especially
someone who is also with the Olympic Travel
Network) let us know how
everything is? Also, I have two days there where I
have
no events to go to. I have a couple of things planned, but if anyone who
is already down there (or lives there, although I heard all
of the Atlanta
natives are long gone) has some
recommendations, that would be great. 2 days
to
go........(5 for me).......Ellen
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:37:14
-0400
From: ***@NORFOLK.INFI.NET
Subject:
Re: Amanda Borden
At 09:24 AM 7/17/96 -0400,
you wrote:
I didn't
>realize that a gymnast
who is basically ranked about #5 in the U.S.
>would
have so many professional money-making opportunities. Apparently
>Amanda has been
recognized as a very charismatic performer.
>
Although Amanda may
not be the top rated gymnast have the most difficult
skill
and dance elements or be among the top three, she is DEFINITELY my
favorite US gymnast.
I love watching her. She
doesn't just DO gymnastics,
she PERFORMS
gymnastics. Of all the gymnasts
vying for the seven spots on
the Olypmic team, Amanda was the one I was routing for the most
(though I
did want to see Dawes and Miller make it
so that the rest of the world would
see that
gymnastics isn't JUST for little girls).
I am very happy for her
and would go to see
her perform as a professional if the opportunity arises.
Allison
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:54:35
CDT
From: ***@ADMIN.STEDWARDS.EDU
Subject:
Re: TV Coverage Taping
>
> ditto... i will be
unable to tape the CBC version but would love to be
> able
to trade tapes.
>
> let me know if
anyone is interested.
>
>
> > Hey!
> >
>
> If anyone plans on taping soley off of CBC
French (which I don't understand
> > but
still love the gymnastics), I will be taping ALL of NBC (is that the
>
> right letters?) coverage
of gymnastics, however, since the routines shown
> > may be different I was interested in trading after the olympics so I could
> > have
coverage of both. If you want to
talk about it write me please!
> > DEAN
> >
>
Count
me in as well. I will diligently
tape ALL of NBC's gymnastics coverage
and would be
VERY grateful if I could trade tapes with someone who happens to
record all of CBC's English (or French) coverage. You know we'll at least get
to see the Canadian gymnasts ( and maybe some of the other
countries that don't
rank 1-3) on the Canadian
broadcast.
Cole
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:00:35
-0400
From: ***@GROVE.IUP.EDU
Subject:
Shannon at podium training.
For anyone at podium training:
How
is Shannon doing? Is her wrist ok?
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:19:06
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
This weekend on NBC
Be sure to tune in Saturday and Sunday afternoon
this weekend for extended
gymnastics
coverage. Saturday will feature
session 1 (ROM & GER).
On Sunday at 2:00 pm there will be a major
load of women's session 1 & 2.
Full routines, no fluff of the
Romanians, Belarussians and Ukrainians with
who knows who mixed in. For you guys who just wanna see routines, the
afternoon
shows should be a fiesta!
The night time shows will have our usual
fluff and we will concentrate on the
top gymnasts.
There will be more time allocated to gymnastics in prime time
than ever before.
Now remember guys, the reason
there is no TripleCast is that it was not
economically feasible.
We will do our best to
chronicle the competition. But quite honestly, the
best
compliment I can get is from my Mother who will tell me about all the
new gym stars she now cares about. And she will also tell me
how she cried
when so-and-so won the Gold.
So
there you have it ----from the Georgia Dome Parking Lot.
David
Michaels
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:34:54
-0700
From: ***@SEATTLEU.EDU
Subject:
Italian gymnast
What exactly happened to the Italian gymnast on bars
during a podium
training (I think)? I saw something on TV but I didn't catch
it all.
Is she alright?
Corrie:)
Go
USA!!
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:47:44
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: Will NBC Deliver?
I know there is a lot of concern about the
gymnastics being cut because of
fluff pieces.
However, NBC has said that 50% of it's programming will be
gymnastics, so even if half of it is fluff (and I do think
that's a little
high) there will be a lot of time
devoted to actual routines.
LeeAnn
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:54:39
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
The Men
This is all being said with a smile--please take it in the
spirit in which it
is intended:)
Okay,
strap on the PC handcuffs and shut my mouth. Meg and Ben took
exception
(?) to my comments about the men's team putting on a skin show for
the crowd in G'boro. Forgive me, but I love to look at a well defined body.
I think it's exciting (not sexually) to
watch the flex and stretch of
individual muscles
through the course of a gymnastics routine. I also liked
the
_LIFE_ magazine pictoral of the Olympic Atheletes without the hinderence
of clothes. The
human body can be a beautiful piece of art. Atheletes
work
long and hard sculpting their bodies as well
as perfecting their individual
sports. I, for one, like to admire the fruits of
their hard labor.
To answer Ben...yes, I think it would be cool to see
the women's team in two
piece workout gear. The six-packs they tote up front are
awesome. You can
make them out under the leotard, but I think a greater
appreciation would
come from seeing the ripples of
the skin. No, I'm not a flake. It just
takes
my breath away to contemplate how much work went into the creation of
such a physique.
To answer Meg...The men looked
solid as in "on". No
MAJOR screw-ups. I'm
afraid my brain doesn't pick up the double entendre as
quickly as my fingers
type :). Of course they looked solid in the other
sense too.
I apologize for offending the feminist sensibilities of
anyone. Please don't
shoot back for my use of the word feminist--I am proud to
call myself one!
Vanessa
P.S. to Ben & Meg: Thanks for keeping me on my toes!
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:55:33
-0300
From: ***@CCN.CS.DAL.CA
Subject:
Re: olympic timetables
Thanks
for posting this, 2 questions though, (1) what is the URL for
CBC's sports
page and (2) what time zone are these times for? EST? Thanks
for any response...
Lisa
> These are the official gymnastics times from the
CBC sports page:
> (CBC! CBC! CBC!)
>
> *Saturday, July
20th*
>
> Men's team compulsories - 9:15-11:23, 12:30-2:38,
4:30-6:38
>
>
> *Sunday, July 21st*
>
> Women's
team compulsories - 9:30-1:05, 3:00-6:40
>
>
> *Monday,
July 22nd*
>
> Men's team optionals -
9:15-11:23, 12:30-2:50
> Men's team optionals
and finals - 4:30-7:13
>
>
> *Tueasay,
July 23rd*
>
> Women's team optionals -
9:30-12:53
> Women's team optionals and final
- 3:00-7:03
>
>
> *Wednesday, July 24th*
>
>
Men's individual all-around final - 4:15-6:59
>
>
>
*Thursday, July 25th*
>
> Women's individual all-around final -
4:15-7:06
>
>
> *Sunday, July 28th*
>
>
Men's floor exercise final, Women's vault fina., Men's pommel horse final,
> Women's uneven bars final, Men's rings
final - 9:30 pm - 11:41 pm
>
>
> *Monday, July 29th*
>
>
Men's vault final, Women's balance beam final, Men's parallel bars final,
>
Women's floor exercise final, Men's high bars final - 8:30 pm - 11:10 pm
>
>
>
*Tuesday, July 30th*
>
> gymnastics
exhibition - 4:00pm - 6:00 pm
>
> I wonder what this
entails?
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:01:04
-0700
From: ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject:
UKR Olympic Web Page
The National Olympic Committee of Ukraine has a
web page at
http://www.mwukr.ca/olympics.htm
with JPGs of some athletes (Podkopayeva
and Serebrianskaya, among others),
team rosters for the sports UKR is participating in, trivia,
and
(upcoming) results. People can also send e-mail to UKR
athletes by
clicking on the "Olympic
team" link. According to the
page, messages will
be delivered daily.
Debbie
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:06:18
+0200
From: ***@MICRONET.IT
Subject:
Re: Italian gymnast
>What exactly happened to the Italian gymnast
on bars during a podium
>training (I
think)? I saw something on TV but I
didn't catch it all.
>Is she alright?
>Corrie:)
>Go USA!!
>
>
During the
exercise at the UB, she didn't cach the higher bar
and felt
beating hardly the face. She fainted for
a couple of minutes, but afterward
she recovere and went back to have practice.
========
Carlo
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:21:50
-0400
From: ***@CORNELL.EDU
Subject:
Re: TV Coverage Taping
>Count me in as well. I will diligently tape ALL of NBC's
gymnastics coverage
>and would be VERY grateful
if I could trade tapes with someone who happens to
>record
all of CBC's English (or French) coverage.
You know we'll at least get
>to see the
Canadian gymnasts ( and maybe some of the other countries that don't
>rank 1-3) on the Canadian broadcast.
On
this general front, is anyone going to be able to make copies of
the plain ol' NBC broadcast (with
major liposuction on the fluff) for those
of us
who are busy and/or not within ready access of a VCR (me :) and
probably others too)?
BTW,
As far as I know on any piracy/copyright issues that may crop
up, I believe it's fine to make more copies as long as there
is no profit
involved.
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