GYMN-L Digest - 14 Feb 1996 to 15 Feb 1996

There are 32 messages totalling 971 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. <No subject given> (3)
  2. International Gymnast (2)
  3. Temple vs. U. Mass vs. Army (M)
  4. usag email
  5. Who will be at worlds?
  6. Nationals qualifications
  7. Team Gymnastics to be cut as Olympic Sport? (3)
  8. Learning to coach...
  9. ESPN
 10. Twisting vaults (2)
 11. Fish jumps (2)
 12. Fish jump and L7 leap pass
 13. Additional E/D (2)
 14. GYMN-L Collegiate Update vol. 1, no. 13
 15. your mail
 16. Team Comp at Worlds
 17. inverted/eagle giants
 18. UM vs Utah on sat.
 19. Looking for a Rhythmics Club in New York.
 20. GCG Job Posting
 21. wrong mIRC website (3)
 22. BOOK REVIEW

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 07:04:35 -0500
From:    ***@PIPELINE.COM
Subject: <No subject given>

Cc:
Subject: Re:      US Women's Team at Worlds

On Tue, Feb 13, 1996 11:28:23 AM  at Kathy Godfrey wrote:

>Now that Worlds is no longer a biannual event in odd-numbered
>years, I wonder if we will see more instances of heavy hitters
>skipping a Worlds that happens just before the Olympics.
>
My impression was that it becomes a biannual event in odd-numbered
years again beginning in 1997.  Who knows . . . if we get lucky we may
actually even see the World Cup again . . .
:-)
Mara

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:49:58 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: International Gymnast

The reason they devoted the WHOLE issue in the past is there was nothing else
to cover. Now, Worlds are just one of a host of events. Gymnastics has grown
up.

John

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:07:25 -0500
From:    ***@PERFIT.ZKO.DEC.COM
Subject: Re: Temple vs. U. Mass vs. Army (M)

>I was wondering if anyone knew what happened
>Kevin Schwarts, A ring man from U. Mass
>He was ranked #1 on rings for a while last year.
>I did not see his name on the U Mass team.

I haven't been to a UMass meet this year yet, but when I was talking to the
UMass coach last year, he mentioned that Kevin wasn't doing too well in school,
and that he'd better watch out.

Too bad for him and UMass.

Steve

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:42:46 -0500
From:    ***@SCRANTON.COM
Subject: usag email

The email address for usa gymnastics is ***@delphi.com  it takes them a
while to respond.  also does anyone know whats going on with Kim
Zmeskal?  I amd one of her biggest fans and i was dissapionted that she
has not competed yet.  Is she still going for 96 or is there something
going on that we just dont know yet? one morre thing anyone know the
qualifying score for the level 6(boys) states?

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:56:13 -0500
From:    ***@YORKU.CA
Subject: Who will be at worlds?

        There has been some talk as to which Americans will be at the
Worlds since of the qualifiers, only Dawes has confirmed her entry.  Does
anyone know if top European and Chinese women will be competing?  The
Europeans are like a month after worlds, and I wonder which meet the
European gymnasts would want to peak for?  Of course the Asian gymnasts
don't have another big warm-up meet before Olympics so they might be more
inclined to go to worlds.
        An aside for the other Canadians out there:  perhaps, if there is
a weaker field in PUR it will improve our chances of making the COA
standard?  At this point we could probably use as much help as we can get...
                Chris.

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 11:05:46 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Nationals qualifications

A Gymnast can qualify to USA Championships at the US Classic or by petition.
Katie had no intention of competing optionals. She was not hurt.

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:51:27 -0700
From:    ***@CSN.NET
Subject: Team Gymnastics to be cut as Olympic Sport?

Today's Wall Street Journal reports that in 1993 a special IOC sports
commission voted to eliminate team gymnastics competition in Olympics after
1996.  Although this was a non-binding resolution, if team competition is
eliminated it will decrease the "showcase" factor for gymnastics.

Cindy

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:35:02 -0500
From:    ***@EXPERT.CC.PURDUE.EDU
Subject: Learning to coach...

I am extremely interested in becoming a girls gymnastics coach someday in
the future.  I know a lot about gymnastics and I know what to look for,
but I need to learn a lot more.  I was wondering if anyone knew what i
could do to start "training" to be a coach.  I know I need to find a gym
with good coaches that could teach me, but I don't know how to go about
getting info.  There is a gym in my city, but I have been to nervous to
ask if I could come in and "study" under the coaches (afraid of
rejection).  I'm afraid that coaches may not have the time to "take me
under their wing" to help me.  I am pretty good at helping out with
routines and stuff, but I want more.   I have a license to judge girls
gymnastics for high school in Indiana, but I haven't been able to
practice and take part since I am a freshman in college at the moment.
Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated.  I was a manger for my
high school's team for 3 years and I continue to help them...Thanks in
advance for any insight or information people can provide me with.

Gymnastically Yours,
        Aaron

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:33:47 -0500
From:    ***@FREENET.BUFFALO.EDU
Subject: ESPN

This is the listing for February + March.  I'll update it monthly
This needs to be added to the calender,  This list includes
ESPN2 as well:

On ESPN:



2/24 8 pm EST  Kodak Peachtree Invitational

2/26 4 pm EST  SEC: LSU/Florida

3/12 1 pm EST  SEC: Georgia/Alabama



Nothing scheduled on ESPN2.  Our schedule is through March at this time.



Enjoy!
Jilly

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:32:20 -0600
From:    ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: Re: Team Gymnastics to be cut as Olympic Sport?

This has to be the most arse-nine thing (you get the point) that the IOC
has done since they voted to have the Olympics split into alternating
years! Christ, it is team gymnastics which is one of the most exciting
elements of the sport!

Other opiions?

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:45:51 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Twisting vaults

In a message dated 96-02-14 09:13:12 EST, you write:
Hi Maryann,
>
>The description of the Am. Classic Jrs competition mentioned a few
>handspring-double-twist vaults--what start value is that?  And for
>curiosity's sake, what is highest start value a gymnast can get for
>a vault that does not include a salto?

I believe the value for a handspring double full is 9.9. There a couple of
twisting valuts that start at 10.0 The above vault was worth a 10 until the
new code appeared. Hope that helps.
Shelley
>

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:48:39 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Fish jumps

In a message dated 96-02-14 09:13:12 EST, you write:
Hello to all
>
>No, Rachele, you are not alone! I think everybody i've ever met calls
>those jumps (tuck jump with one leg extended) a fish jump. If anything,
>it's much easier on the tounge. However: the kids i coached and i could
>never figure out why they were called fish jumps, so we unanimously
>decided to rename them (because we could) Fwompdinks. If you added a turn
>they became fwomp 1/2's, fwomp fulls. Ahh....back to my own little world.
>:) stephanie.

I and many others have always called that jump a Wolf jump. Funny huh?

Shelley

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:56:55 CDT
From:    ***@PROCTR.CBA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fish jumps

I've heard them called, by gymnasts, 'puck' jumps. ??????

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:03:38 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Fish jump and L7 leap pass

     I am from Montana, and i can tell you that my club is the only club in
Montana that calls the Fish jump a fish jump.  In fact a coaching friend in
another part of the state laughs at me when I call it a fish jump.  By the
way I am all for calling a trick by a different name if the gymnast can
understand the trick better.
     Last I just went to a meet in Region 1 and noticed that my level 7's
were the only girls on floor throwing a stag leap in their leap pass.  I
looked at my book, the updates, asked a fellow coach (when I got home) and a
Montana Judge what the leap pass is and they all say it is a stag. A judge at
the meet I attended said it is a regular split leap.  Could somebody clear
this up for me?

                    gymanstically,

                                        DOUBLETUCK

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:21:13 CDT
From:    ***@PROCTR.CBA.UA.EDU
Subject: Additional E/D

This has been bothering me for a long time so I hope someone can help
me.  In elite competition, you know the base score is 9.40 and bonus
points are .6; .3 for E-.2 & D-.1; and .3 for combination.
 I am confused about the additional E/D.  The Code
says that E and D skills may be used only ONCE for additional E/D.
So, does that mean you have to have an E to be able to start from a
10.0? Like, you couldn't do just 3 D's for the 3 tenths, or can you?
But then again, like Lavinia Milosovici's beam set, I don't think she
has an E in it but I believe she starts from a 10.0?
Help!

Shawn

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:27:21 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: <No subject given>

jump with one leg extended) a fish jump

at my gym, I have never heard it referred to as anything but a puck jump.  It
makes sense!  Fish jump kind of makes sense (a little bit).
                                                Dawn :)

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:40:48 -0500
From:    ***@ZEUS.TOWSON.EDU
Subject: Re: Team Gymnastics to be cut as Olympic Sport?

        If they did this they would lose too much money.  Think about
ticket sales.  I will be VERY suprised if this happens.

        Mikester Bee

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:58:50 -0800
From:    ***@LELAND.STANFORD.EDU
Subject: GYMN-L Collegiate Update vol. 1, no. 13

                      GYMN-L's Collegiate Update
                           Volume 1, no. 13
                             Feb. 14, 1996
_____________________________________________________________________

Contents:

1. Michigan vs. the Ohio State (W & M)
2. Davis-UCSB-Berkeley (W)
3. Georgia, Illinois State @ Auburn (W)
4. UW-Oshkosh @ UW-Eau Claire (W)
5. SJSU vs. Stanford, BYU (M)
6. Alabama @ Kentucky (W)

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    *****Item number 1.13.1*****

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 20:24:26 -0500 (EST)
From: ***@umich.edu
Subject: Michigan vs. the Ohio State (W & M)

2-10-96
University of Michigan (W) vs. Ohio State

UM      194.425
OS      192.575

        Andrea McDonald won the all-around and placed first on beam.
        Wendy Marshall finished third in AA and second on vault with a
        9.95.  Susan Eckman of OS received another perfect 10 for first.
        Beth Amelkovich placed second on bars, third on beam.
        Heather Kabnick placed third on vault.
        Nikki Peters placed third on bars.

*Both Heather and Nikki competed despite being injured still.

Other notes: next meet is vs Utah.  Hopefully Kabnick and Peters are
healed by then...we'll need them.

Also, UM (M) vs Ohio State results:

OS      228.925
UM      209.750

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    *****Item number 1.13.2*****

From: Kathy W
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 96 02:46:00 UTC 0000
Subject: Davis-UCSB-Berkeley (W)


Friday - Jan 9th

      U.C. Davis hosted two other schools from the U. C. system for a three-
ring circus.  It would have been fun to have UCLA there to make it a
complete representation of all U. C. affilliated gym teams.
     The first rotaion started Cal on Bars and Davis on Vault.  Cal started
their domination of the evening with a 47.875 Bar set score led by Heather
Schneider's 9.875.   Davis had two Aggies, Shauna Duggins and Alix Alderman,
 hit their personal best on vault.
    The second rotation brought Santa Barbara to vault and Davis to bars.
Santa Barbara's April Sargent, who had an elbow injury last season, showed
great form on a front-tuck-half for a 9.75, which gave her a second on vault
for the night.  On bars, Davis' Erika Cronk and Alix Alderman set personal
bests.
    Third rotation moved Cal-Berkeley to vault and the Santa Barbara Gauchos
to bars.  Cal again had a good night with a 47.80 set score.  Except for one
Gaucho score (April Sargent's) Cal had the top five vault scores of the
night.  The two top scores were from Heather Schneider's Front-tuck-half
(9.775) and Lisa Washington's front-pike (9.75).  The Gauchos had a good
night on bars, with Alison Georgetti (9.775) and Georgina Lillich (9.625)
placing second and third for the meet.
    At the half-way point the Cal Bears led with 95.675 followed by UCSB
Gauchos (93.775) and the Davis Aggies (92.375).
   Davis took the beam and Santa Barbara took the floor for the fourth
rotation.  Davis was making a good effort on beam, but had to count five
falls.  On floor, Santa Barbara's Alison Giorgetti scored a team high of
9.75 for second place.
    The fifth rotation brought UCSB to the beam and Cal-Berkeley to the
floor.  Gaucho Alison Giorgetti led her teammates again with a 9.575 which
earned her a third on beam.  She mounted with a front tuck and had a clever
dive to a headstand which leads down to the beam.  On floor, Cal tried some
new things and had to count one fall.  They had their weakest set score of
the night (47.725) and were bested by UCSB and Davis.  The bright spot of
the rotation was Freshman Emily Bails' personal best (9.725) and third on
floor. Freshman Angela Mapa also earned a personal best 9.60.
    In the final rotation, Davis showed their stuff on floor.  It was their
best set score of the night and the top floor set as well - 47.875.  Holly
Balchus (9.775), Alix Alderman (9.725) and Jennifer Wong (9.675) each earned
a personal best and first, third and fifth on floor. On Beam, Cal had to
count one fall from the beginning of the set. The rest of the team rallied
to the occasion and stuck their routines.  High points of the set were
Angala Mapa's front tuck mount plus a Popa, and Emily Bails' BHS, layout,
layout pass.
      The teams finished with a fair amount of distance between them.  Cal-
Berkeley stayed in the lead with a 190.80, followed by U. C. Santa Barbara
(188.05) and U. C. Davis (185.50).  All-around honors went to Heather
Schneider (38.35) from Cal and Alison Giorgetti (38.20) and Kim Weigle
(37.325) from Santa Barbara.

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    *****Item number 1.13.3*****

From: ***@proctr.cba.ua.edu
Date:          Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:38:52 CDT
Subject:       Georgia, Illinois State @ Auburn (W)

Georgia, Illinois State @ Auburn
Feb. 10, 1996

Georgia topped out again with a team score of 197.2x over Auburn's
192.xx and Illinois St. 187.xx.  If you haven't heard already,
Georgia scored an NCAA record on vault with a 49.925.  One judge gave
5 out of 6 gymnasts 10.0's which of only 2 were really deserved,
Julie Ballard's and Karin Lichey's.  Auburn really came on strong
with a good start on vault.  I believe the best of the season.
Georgia finally stayed on the beam but had 2 falls on bars, one from
Julie Ballard's DOUBLE FRONT dismount!
I was really impressed with Auburn.  This meet gave them a lot of
confidence.  They have 2 full-ins on floor, Erin Gannon and Kim
Smith.  Smith has the highest leaps I've ever seen.  They had a
couple of falls on bars and beam but overall a great meet.
Illinois St.  saw a near perfect handspring-front from one of their
girls-9.875(start value 9.9).
*****This may have been the first meet in which 3 sisters competed.
Becky Balogach and Sarah Balagoch are on Auburn's team and Becky's
twin sister is on Illinois St. team.  They all did well.
That was neat!!
Auburn's coach Robert Dillard seemed in high spirits for the first
time I've seen in a while, eventhough he didn't get to coach because
of a cast he had on his arm.
Becky Erwin of Auburn still isn't going all-around. She only competed
bars and beam.
Lori Strong won the all-aound again and showed a new tumbling pass of
a 2 1/2 twist punch front for an opener.  First one I've seen other
than Chelle Stack's when she was at OU.
Thanks!

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:14:33 -0600 (CST)
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: UW-Oshkosh @ UW-Eau Claire (W)

Division III Results:
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh at University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire

1) UW-Oshkosh     139.950
2) UW-Eau Claire  130.500

All-Around
1) Kari Graef, Oshkosh, 35.300
2) Tiffany Barden, Oshkosh, 34.550
3) Heather Anderson, Oshkosh, 33.850
4) Nikki Smith, Oshkosh, 33.750
5) Laurie Woodring, Oshkosh, 33.450
   Michelle Phillips, Eau Claire, 33.450

Vault
1) Nikki Smith, Oshkosh, 8.8
2) Laurie Woodring, Oshkosh, 8.65
3) Tiffany Barden, Oshkosh, 8.60

Bars
1) Juli Baumblatt, Oshkosh, 9.05
2) Kari Graef, Oshkosh, 8.85
3) Tiffany Barden, Oshkosh, 8.30

Beam
1) Heather Anderson, Oshkosh, 9.15
2) Michelle Phillips, Eau Claire, 9.0
3) Veronica Wnukowski, Oshkosh, 8.85

Floor
1) Kari Graef, Oshkosh, 9.15
2) Tiffany Barden, Oshkosh, 9.05
3) Claudia Barbolla, Eau Claire, 9.0


Oshkosh finished the Wisconsin Women's Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Dual Meet season unfeated, including a win over defending national champs
UW-La Crosse. Nonconference, they also defeated Hamline University, and
finished second to Bowling Green University and Ithaca. Oshkosh is currently
third in the NCAA Division III rankings, and will be returning to the
national championships as a team for the first time in three years.

Next up for Oshkosh, Eau Claire and La Crosse, plus the other WWIAC teams,
is the WWIAC conference this weekend in River Falls. Oshkosh enters the
meet as a solid favorite, with La Crosse expected to challenge.

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 11:27:54 -0800 (PST)
From: ***@leland.Stanford.EDU
Subject: SJSU vs. Stanford, BYU (M)

Stanford traveled to San Jose State last weekend to take on the host
Spartans as well as the Cougars of Brigham Young.  I didn't make the trip
(my car did feel like going freeway speed), but here are the scores from
the Stanford Sports Information Dept.

One sad note from the meet: Stanford sophomore Tim Dalrymple suffered a
season-ending injury on a fall from high bar.  He apparently continued
to train for two days after the meet, thinking it was a muscle pull.
After the pain did not subside, he had it examined; tests revealed a chip
fracture of the C-4 vertebra as well as sprains at two levels.  (No signs
of nerve/spinal damage) He is in surgery today, and there seems to be
nothing to indicate that he won't be back at full strength by next season.

Scores:

Team:

1. Stanford        224.100
2. Brigham Young   221.300
3. San Jose State  211.100

AA                            FX     PH     SR     VT     PB     HB
1. Wiley  Stanford  57.350  9.750  9.500  9.550  9.600  9.450  9.500
2. Elg    BYU       56.350  9.450  9.600  9.050  9.400  9.150  9.700
3. Ellis  Stanford  56.050  9.500  9.200  9.300  9.650  9.450  8.950

FX
1. Wiley   Stanford  9.750
2. Olsson  BYU       9.550
3. Ellis   Stanford  9.500

PH
1. Elg    BYU       9.600
2. Miao   Stanford  9.550
3. Wiley  Stanford  9.500

SR
1. Wiley   Stanford  9.550
2. Hegi    Stanford  9.350
3t Ellis   Stanford  9.300
3t Olsson  BYU       9.300

VT
1. Ellis     Stanford  9.650
2. Wiley     Stanford  9.600
3. Bachrach  Stanford  9.550

PB
1t Wiley  Stanford  9.450
1t Ellis  Stanford  9.450
3. Elg    BYU       9.150

HB
1. Bachrach  Stanford  9.800
2. Elg       BYU       9.700
3. Hegi      Stanford  9.600

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    *****Item number 1.13.6*****

From: ***@proctr.cba.ua.edu
Date:          Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:13:11 CDT
Subject:       Alabama @ Kentucky (W)

Alabama @ Kentucky
Feb. 10, 1996

This will be a short update because I haven't gotten all of the
individual scores yet.

Bama 196.95; second highest team score in school history.
Kentucky 195.40; second highest team score in school history.

Jenny Hansen won the all-around with a 39.675, Robin Ewin(UK) was
second and Marna Neubauer(UA) was third.  Kim Kelly fell on unevens
but had 9.9 on vault and I think beam.
Merritt Booth is back after being sick during the Georgia/Bama meet.
Since the rankings are going by team averages, Alabama is #1, as most
of you have seen already.


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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:14:18 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Twisting vaults

Hi!!!

Some one asked about twisting vaults, and their SVs. A handspring double full
is worth a 9.7. A 2 1/2 or higher is worth a 10. I think that if you do
1/2-2/1 it's worth a 9.8, but I could be wrong. There are also more twisting
vaults that are worth a 10. One is a full on  full off. But I could be wrong,
it may be full on 1 1/2 off. I can't remember.

Jessica

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 18:48:10 -0500
From:    ***@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Subject: Re: your mail

Huh? why does puck makes sense?  Why does fish?  Maybe all my programming
has rotted my logic, but I don't get it.
sam

> jump with one leg extended) a fish jump
>
> at my gym, I have never heard it referred to as anything but a puck jump.  It
> makes sense!  Fish jump kind of makes sense (a little bit).
>                                                 Dawn :)
>

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 19:04:24 -0600
From:    ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject: Team Comp at Worlds

Perhaps this is a response to the fact that there will be no more compulsories
in World Competition. Perhaps they see no need to have competition like
the future worlds (Two or MORE optional team event competitions.)

You have to remember something. The OLympics is a very scheduled event and
you can't just add three to six days of team competition in hopes of
getting everything in on the set amount of time for the Games. Perhaps they
(IOC) worried about the fact that it would have made the gymnastics competition
way too long and would have removed some of the attention to other sports
such as Track and Field and Swimming, two sports which draw alot of
MONEY AND SPONSORSHIP and also run over several days.

There may have been reasons other than these. I doubt it was the IOC's dislike
of gymnastics competitions. I bet that they could sell out the Stadium for
complusories!!!!


Jeff.


Still flame proof and loving it.

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 16:52:34 PST
From:    ***@GEOWORKS.COM
Subject: Re: inverted/eagle giants

> Subject: inverted/eagle giants
> Aren't inverted and eagle grip giants the same thing?

        While the arm position and method of getting into Eagles and
Inverts is similar, they are different positions and different giants.

        In both positions the arms are maximally twisted inward (i.e. the
right arm twisted counter clockwise and the left arm twisted clockwise).

        It is kind of hard to describe wrist position.  A flexed wrist is
when your wrist curls in the same direction as your fingers when you make
fist.  An extended wrist moves in the opposite direction.  As an example
you have to have an extended wrist to do a handstand on floor.

        In an Eagle the wrist is flexed.  When you go over the top on this
giant your hand is under the bar, and so you have to lead with your shoulders
because your wrists need to be over the bar to support your weight.  Your
wrist is always following your motion around the bar in an Eagle.

        In an Invert your wrist is extended.  When you go over the top on
this giant your hand is over the bar, which means you can support your
weight and don't have to dump your shoulders over the bar.  When doing
Inverts the shoulders are in line with the body.  The arm position of
Inverts requires more flexibility than Eagles.

        You don't tend to see Eagles in many high level competitions as
they are mainly a stepping stone to Inverts.  They will tend to be faster
because you can't support your weight over the top like you can in an
Invert.

        So the main differences are the wrist and shoulder postions.

        Dave

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 20:10:31 -0500
From:    ***@UMICH.EDU
Subject: UM vs Utah on sat.

For all of you UM fans...
I would put this on the collegiate update, but it is just a precursor to
the meet...
Rumors here at UM:

6 out of 12 of our gymnasts have injuries....needless to say we are
concerned.  Our two freshmen, beth and kathy, are aware that they have to
keep doing well to support the team, a lot of pressure on two 18 year olds.

-The word is that Tina Miranda has torn her acl...she's out for the
season, she has been a strong performer on bars for us.
-Nikki Peters will probably not compete.
-Kristen Duff and Lisa Simes have been cleared to practice and their
status is still up in the air.
-Dianna Ranelli and Heather Kabnick are questionable.

Beth and Kathy have really stepped up.  Wendy has always been strong.
Andrea has placed in the top three AA in most meets.

I will  be crossing my fingers on sat.  I will try to report as detailed
info as I can about this meet.
Till then..wish us luck :)
GO BLUE!!!

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 21:42:52 -0500
From:    ***@PIPELINE.COM
Subject: <No subject given>

Cc:
Subject: Re:      UGA's 49.925 vault

Regarding NCAA judging, I have to say that it has gone nuts in the last 5-6
years.  Even as recently as 1990-91, it was a real triumph for a team to
break 190.00.  Now that score can't even get to Regionals!

The top routines lose their value if mediocre or average routines receive
unjust scores.

MHO,
:-)
Mara
 

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Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:02:53 -0500
From:    ***@MYNA.COM
Subject: Looking for a Rhythmics Club in New York.

My name is Maria (currently using my husbands account here).  I =
am a level 3 national coach in Rhythmics Gymnastics in Toronto Canada =
(N.C.C.P Level 3) with a degree in Physical Education from Buenos Aires =
Argentina.  I have been living and teaching in Canada for 5 years now.  =
That's the short little blurb about me for now.

My question is the following: Does anyone know the names/address/tel. =
numbers of any rhythmic gymnastics club in New York city?  In particular =
in areas just outside of New York city, like Westchester County (I'm not =
sure of spelling here :-).  The reason I'm asking is because my husband =
is about to accept a job from a company in New York, and I would like to =
continue teaching after we have relocated there.

Thanks in advance for any information.

Maria

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Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 00:01:08 -0400
From:    ***@CAPITALNET.COM
Subject: GCG Job Posting

Gymnastics Canada Gymnastique has an opening for the position of
Women's National Coach / High Performance Director.

Please visit the following web page for further details:
  http://www.capitalnet.com/~chiug/whpjob.html

Regards,

Grace

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Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 00:07:13 -0500
From:    ***@YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: Additional E/D


> This has been bothering me for a long time so I hope someone can help
> me.  In elite competition, you know the base score is 9.40 and bonus
> points are .6; .3 for E-.2 & D-.1; and .3 for combination.
>  I am confused about the additional E/D.  The Code
> says that E and D skills may be used only ONCE for additional E/D.
> So, does that mean you have to have an E to be able to start from a
> 10.0? Like, you couldn't do just 3 D's for the 3 tenths, or can you?
> But then again, like Lavinia Milosovici's beam set, I don't think she
> has an E in it but I believe she starts from a 10.0?
> Help!
>
> Shawn
>

It just means you can't get extra D/E bonus for the same skill more than
once.  If you do 3 *different* D's, you can get 0.3 (assuming you meet
value part requirements and all that)(rules on how many times you can use a
skill depend on whether you're looking for value part credit, extra D/E
bonus, or connection bonus.  The above refers only to extra D/E bonus).

:)
Adriana

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Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 00:46:05 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: International Gymnast

I'd have to say my biggest complaint with IG lately is that they still only
run 10 issues a year. The summer and spring sessions are becoming the most
eventful ones, with the Olympics, Nationals, Olympic Trials, Europeans all in
that time frame, but there are still only two issues during the summer. With
the lag time from printing the issues and trying to cram all of these events
into just a few issues, a lot is lost. I'd rather pay a few dollars more and
get 12 issues a year. Sometimes were' hearing about the summer events months
after they happen.

LeeAnn

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Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 01:26:19 -0500
From:    ***@GNATNET.NET
Subject: wrong mIRC website

It has come to my attention that I posted the wrong website for
downloading the mIRC software.  The website I gave must be outdated.
Here is where you can download the latest edition of mIRC:

ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/irc/clients/pc/windows/

Hope this helps!
Kerry

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Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 01:49:44 -0500
From:    ***@GNATNET.NET
Subject: Re: wrong mIRC website

Ok, additional sites are:

http://huizen.dds.nl/~mir/faq.html

http://www.lookup.com/homepages/69432.mirc.html

http://sunsite.nijenrode.nl/ftp/pup/mirc/index.html

Kerry

>
> It has come to my attention that I posted the wrong website for
> downloading the mIRC software.  The website I gave must be outdated.
> Here is where you can download the latest edition of mIRC:
>
> ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/irc/clients/pc/windows/
>
> Hope this helps!
> Kerry

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Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 01:58:11 -0500
From:    ***@GNATNET.NET
Subject: Re: wrong mIRC website

Ok, ya'll, you can use the ftp site, but ignore the http sites.  For
some reason, I keep being told sites that are not found.  I don't know
what's going on.  :(


>
> Ok, additional sites are:
>
> http://huizen.dds.nl/~mir/faq.html
>
> http://www.lookup.com/homepages/69432.mirc.html
>
> http://sunsite.nijenrode.nl/ftp/pup/mirc/index.html
>
> Kerry
>
> >
> > It has come to my attention that I posted the wrong website for
> > downloading the mIRC software.  The website I gave must be outdated.
> > Here is where you can download the latest edition of mIRC:
> >
> > ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/irc/clients/pc/windows/
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> > Kerry

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Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 02:06:10 EST
From:    ***@PRODIGY.COM
Subject: BOOK REVIEW

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Mr. Feeney gives us example Press Releases and forms you can use in
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