GYMN-L Digest - 7 Apr 1996 to 8 Apr 1996
There
are 17 messages totalling 358 lines in this
issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Answers for Heather
2. Judges payments. WAG
3. Reduced airfare to Atlanta?
4. WAG/MAG: BUDGET USA vs. FRANCE
(2)
5. MAG: Vault. (2)
6. GYMN-L Digest - 6 Apr 1996 to 7 Apr
1996
7. Kim Zmeskal
8.
Italy at Worlds
9. USA vs France at the Budget Rent A Car Gymn.
Invite
10. Splitting Gymn-L
11.
Stormy Eaton
12. Nadi & Bart at SeaWorld
13. Coaches making money...
14. Wanted - Olympic Trials Tickets
15. Christina Bontas
(sp)
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 09:15:44
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Answers for Heather
Heather writes:
>I
thought that I knew a lot about gymnastics, but in some areas I am
completely
>ignorant.
>
>1)
What does IMHO mean? (sorry if I'm stupid)
>
>2)
When you write 1/1 or 2/1 etc., what do you mean? I know what most skills
>are, but I can't figure out what exactly you mean. I catch
the gist of what
>you're saying about how many
twists, but what's the other number for?
>
>3) I hope this is not
a TABOO question, but do coaches and judges make very
>much money? Are there any training sessions to become either
of these?
1. "IMHO" is net-ese for
"in my humble opinion".
2. In the FIG code twists are
expressed as fractions (probably for space
reasons)
so "1/1" is a full twist and "2/1" is a double twist and so
on.
3. Judges don't make a whole lot of money. I am a mens' FIG brevet judge in
Florida and i generally make $100 to $200 dollars for a meet
(before
expenses). As a coach I make a decent
living, but I wouldn't call it "alot of
money". I would not describe myself as financially
secure by any stretch of
the imagination. The real
money in gymnastics is in gym ownership. I know of
several
successful gyms in my area that net in the hundreds of thousands of
dollars a year.
Dean
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 10:08:37
-0400
From: ***@YALE.EDU
Subject:
Re: Judges payments. WAG
In Puerto Rico we get paid $5 or $10 each day
we judge. I don't really
know exactly how the amount is determined.
:)
Adriana
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 12:07:55
PDT
From: ***@EPIX.NET
Subject:
Reduced airfare to Atlanta?
Does anyone know of any reduced airfares
or car rental rates
in Atlanta this summer?
Tara
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:49:27
-0600
From: ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:
WAG/MAG: BUDGET USA vs. FRANCE
Anyone know why they don't do
vault?
Jeff
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:00:18
-0400
From: ***@YORKU.CA
Subject:
Re: WAG/MAG: BUDGET USA vs. FRANCE
> Anyone know why they
don't do vault?
>
Well, it was probably the same situation as mixed pairs in 1991
(and the 3 on 3 this year I believe): not enough room in the arena!
This
is just bad planning IMHO.
Chris.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 14:02:03
-0600
From: ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:
MAG: Vault.
What is a "MAY" vault? Is that a RO-Arabian front
to the horse?
Jeff
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:06:38
-0400
From: ***@YORKU.CA
Subject:
Re: MAG: Vault.
> What is a "MAY" vault? Is that a
RO-Arabian front to the horse?
>
Yes! It's named after James
May from Great Britain.
Chris.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:02:19
-0500
From: ***@DELPHI.COM
Subject:
Re: GYMN-L Digest - 6 Apr 1996 to 7 Apr 1996
Nope,
As a
matter of fact, Danny won the class 7 target team
title.
He was ecstatic to say the least!
See ya!
-Jeff-
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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:42:33 -0500
From: ***@YORKU.CA
Subject:
Kim Zmeskal
With
all this talk about Kim Zmeskal ending her comeback,
I just
thought I would add my two cents. I agree that if she doesn't want to
do
gymnastics anymore she should stop, no doubt
about it. As Doni
Thompson's
mother said, sometimes it's harder to make the decision to
stop than it is to continue.
My
biggest concern with this situation is that Kim's fans have
been led on for some time now that she would be trying to
make the next
Olympic team. As
a result, she has made the press, been on TV for
interviews,
and drawn more media attention than she would have had she
not planned this "comeback". It bothers me when someone sets out to
do
something, tells everyone they are going to do
something, and then
doesn't do it. Why all the secrecy? How long has she known that she
didn't want to comeback? When she announced her comeback as part
of the
USA/Romania meet in 1994 it was one of NBC's biggest stories during their
broadcast. Yet nothing was said about it during
their latest broadcast.
Has Kim given any interviews on TV or in print
since she called off her
comeback? All we have is speculation at this
point. I would really like
to hear from Kim herself to hear what she has to say about
her reasons.
I totally respect her for her choice. I just think it would have been
nice to hear it from her directly why she did this. Perhaps an appology
for leading us on for so long?
If
anyone has any problem with what I have said here (this is
just my opinion
and nobody has to agree with it), I wouldn't mind
hearing
about it (*privately* would be preferred).
Thanks.
Chris.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 22:18:21
+0200
From: ***@MICRONET.IT
Subject:
Italy at Worlds
Gymnasts to compete at PR Worlds '95
Men:
Jury
Chechi (PH, SR, PB, HB)
Bori
Preti (PB, HB)
Andrea Massucchi
(FX, PH, SR, V)
Women:
Elisa Lamperti (italian champion - V, UB, B, FX)
Ilenia
Meneghesso (PB, B)
Tania Rebagliati
(V, FX)
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:38:00
MDT
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject:
USA vs France at the Budget Rent A Car Gymn. Invite
Following are the scores from the
Budget Dual. More information
about the meet can be found at:
http://www.usa-gymnastics.org/usag/
Rachele
Event
USA
France
Women's Bars
29.199
28.412
Women's Beam
28.812
27.962
Women's Floor
28.599 29.374
Men's
Floor
27.500
27.750
Men's Pommel Horse
28.275
27.850
Men's Rings
28.450
27.500
Men's Parallel Bars
28.000
27.300
Men's High Bar
28.500
28.050
Total
227.335
224.198
Women's Bars
1 Jaycie
Phelps
USA
9.825
2
Isabelle Severino FRA
9.750
3
Amanda Borden
USA
9.737
4
Jennie Thompson
USA
9.637
5 Laetitia Begue FRA
9.525
6 Elvire Teza
FRA
9.137
Women's Balance Beam
1 Amanda Borden
USA
9.775
2 Jaycie Phelps
USA
9.762
3 Laetitia Begue FRA
9.725
4
Jennie Thompson
USA
9.275
5 Isabelle Severino
FRA
9.237
6 Elvire Teza
FRA
9.000
Women's Floor Exercise
1 Ludivine
Furnon FRA
9.837
2 Laetitia Begue FRA
9.800
3 Elvire Teza
FRA
9.737
4
Jennie Thompson
USA
9.662
5
Amanda Borden
USA
9.512
6 Alecia Ingram USA
9.425
Men's Floor Exercise
1 Thierry Aymes
FRA
9.450
2
Jeff Lavallee
USA
9.400
3
John Roethlisberger
USA
9.250
4 Sebastien Tayac
FRA
9.200
5
Jacky Loquin
FRA
9.100
6
Jarrod Hanks
USA 8.850
Men's
Pommel Horse
1 Eric Poujade
FRA
9.750
2 Mihai Bagiu
USA
9.650
3
Drew Durbin
USA
9.625
4 Sebastien Tayac
FRA
9.250
5
John Roethlisberger
USA
9.000
6 Sebastien Darrigade FRA
8.850
Men's Still Rings
1 Kip Simons
USA 9.600
2 John Roethlisberger USA
9.500
3
Jarrod Hanks
USA 9.350
4 Sebastien
Tayac
FRA
9.300
5 Sebastien Darrigade FRA
9.150
6
Jacky Loquin
FRA
9.050
Men's Parallel Bars
1 John Roethlisberger USA
9.500
1
Eric Poujade
FRA
9.500
3
Thierry Aymes
FRA
9.400
4
Drew Durbin
USA
9.350
5
Jeff Lavallee
USA
9.150
6 Sebastien Darrigade FRA
8.400
Men's High Bar
1 Mihai
Bagiu
USA
9.700
2
Eric Poujade FRA
9.450
2
Thierry Aymes FRA
9.450
4 Kip
Simons
USA
9.450
5
Jeff Lavallee USA
9.350
6 Sebastien Tayac
FRA
9.150
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:55:54
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Splitting Gymn-L
I'm sorry I am sending this
out to the digest, but I forgot the name of the
person
who first brought up the topic.
I personally feel that gymn-l should be split. I am a gymnast, and recently
all that I've been seeing in Gymn-L
are long articles about controversial gym
topics,
arguing about the code, and the lives of fdamous
gymnasts. I think
that other gymnasts like myself,
and parents of gymnasts would greatly
benefit from
a new digest. I'd rather get two different digests each day,
then one extremely long one that requires downloading. If we
really attempted
to combine the needs of gymnasts
and parents with needs of fans and judges,
then
the digest would get way too long. Two shorter digests would be great,
as long as we can stillsubscribe
to both. As many of you gymners say, I just
wanted to give my "$0.02" on the issue.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:07:58
EST
From: ***@MAIL.FIRN.EDU
Subject:
Stormy Eaton
When
and how did Stormy Eaton die? I
never heard anything about
it!
Gary
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:24:15
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: Nadi & Bart at SeaWorld
Bart, Bart,
Bart... strange how we never hear about why he didn't finish
college... or what ever happened to his coach at OU.... or
maybe why they
both left???
HMMM... kinda makes you wonder ...
Gotta love this sport???
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:24:22
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: Coaches making money...
I don't want to say coaches (or gym
owners) make much... but I believe that a
gym that
runs hundreds of girls through the (now) 10 classes of
competition...
plus now powertumbling... there is not doubt in my
mind that
there is money to be made in this
sport... if you are in the business to make
money...
and not cultivate the future athlete's of the sport.
Go figure??
Mike
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 01:45:12
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Wanted - Olympic Trials Tickets
I am looking for two tickets to men's and women's optionals at the
Trials in
Boston.
Anyone have a couple extra?
Jeff
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:59:26
-0500
From: ***@WCHAT.ON.CA
Subject:
Christina Bontas (sp)
Just
to let everyone know, Christina Bontas was at my club
on Tuesday as my
coach had to interview her to see
what level of coaching she should get.
She stuck around for a while and we
talked. She is coaching at Hamilton
Gym
Elites and as it turns out she will probably be coaching at my gym for
a bit
during the summer. It's great to see yet another gymnast
continue into
coaching. Just thought all would like to know
:)
Vicki.
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