GYMN-L Digest - 5 Oct 1995 to 6 Oct 1995 - Special issue

There are 18 messages totalling 503 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

1. Jamie Dantzscher's music
2. Front tumbling (2)
3. What is a tinisca (sp)? (3)
4. tinsica (3)
5. DSF
6. TV broadcast of worlds in Europe
7. Gymnastics Where is it?
8. Worlds: Mens team current standings
9. WORLDS: Zelepoukina (UKR) injured
10. Intro and question
11. Worlds: Mens Team Brief Results
12. World Trials on ESPN2?
13. World photo's

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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 22:04:47 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: Jamie Dantzscher's music

Date sent: 5-OCT-1995 22:04:00

Umm...someone a while back mentioned they wanted to know what
Jamie Dantzscher's floor music was. I'm not sure, but could it be from
the movie "Swing Kids"?

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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 22:09:57 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: Front tumbling

Date sent: 5-OCT-1995 22:06:17

*grins* I'm sitting here watching my tape of the Olympic Festival (god,
being deprived of being in Sabe can make you do anything:)) and I heard
Julianne McNamara's commentary on front tumbling, and it reminding me
of something that I've been meaning to ask for a while. If front tumbling
is to be encouraged, but they don't want to see it overdone, why not
insist on an equal or lesser ratio? In other words, a gymnast may not
have more front tumvling passes than they do back tumbling passes, and the
back tumbling passes must be of equal or higher value? Does anyone
think this would work? I'd like some opinions on this, because, while I
like the front tumbling, I don't think it has done the job that was
intended.

Jenny :)

PS Thanks to the people who have sent commentary. I will try to watch my
posting.

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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 22:27:08 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: What is a tinisca (sp)?

Date sent: 5-OCT-1995 22:25:26

I was reading through the October IG, and caught their highlights, which go
over some of the usual or eye-catching moves whoever it was wirintg the
article saw. They mentioned that Soni Meduna "dared" to throw a tinsica or
tinisca (spelling) to a punch front. What is this move?

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:43:52 EST-11
From: ***@DISINFORMATION.BF.RMIT.EDU.AU
Subject: Re: What is a tinisca (sp)?

It's a cartwheel to a front walkover, ie start the move like a
cartwheel, but end it like a front walkover.

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:48:49 EST-11
From: ***@DISINFORMATION.BF.RMIT.EDU.AU
Subject: tinsica

A tinsica is a great move. You start it like a cartwheel, ie side
on, but half way through change to a front walkover. That's the best
way I can think to explain it anyhow.

Simone.

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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 04:10:30 PDT
From: ***@LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: tinsica

Isn't a tinsica also known as an arab-wheel?

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:46:45 +0100
From: ***@GL.RHBNC.AC.UK
Subject: DSF

Help....help!

Knowing that there is practically no worlds woverage In England, and also
knowing that the best coverage I can get is from DSF, I am begging anyone who
can help me to please do so. I can't find anyone I know who receives DSF. If
there are any kind hearted folk out the who happened to copy any airings, would
it be possible to send me some?

sarah :)

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:16:17 MET
From: ***@SEPA.TUDELFT.NL
Subject: TV broadcast of worlds in Europe

Sarah wrote:
Knowing that there is practically no worlds woverage In England,
and also knowing that the best coverage I can get is from DSF, I am
begging anyone who can help me to please do so. I can't find
anyone I know who receives DSF. If there are any kind hearted folk
out the who happened to copy any airings, would it be possible to
send me some?

Chantal:
Unfortunately we in Holland can not receive DSF, we are able to
receive about 20 different channels and none is showing any apart
from ZDF on Sunday the 8th of October this according to the tv
guide. I am still hoping Supersport will start broadcasting the
worlds today, we went out there to buy a decoder approx DFL
500.--, but unfortunately they had a programme CHANGE!!!! (I am
able to watch Judo now). Someone wrote that EUROSPORT will cover
worlds on the 11th of October but my TV guide lists Rhythmic: Alfred
Vogel Cup. Lets hope ATLANTA is covered a little better, Chantal



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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 06:48:53 -0400
From: ***@UMICH.EDU
Subject: Gymnastics Where is it?

I know fluff is discouraged but isn't it weird that with the Olympics
coming up next year that people are not showing more coverage of the
gymnastics. if all of the gymnastics seessions are sold out, wouldn't.
poeple want to see more Olympic related event? IT could be that people
spent so much money to broadcast the Olympics that this was trivial. I
mean NBC is only showing 160? of coverage and CBC (Canada ) is showing
240 and other stations in the world are acting as if nothing is going
on. It is as if the OG do not exist. I know that there will be
covearage latter on but it does not seem enough. Also the guy from
Kahatazhan? did a new move. A) Will it be named after him. B) Will
other people start doing it as early as next year C) What kind of value
does it have. Is there any other country that receives this message that
has acess? It just seems weird> You will see it in papers, but only as a
small blurb. I mean almost everybody in the world loves gymnastics. If
it is on it will be watched by someone. Should gymnastics become
professional so it can get more air time?

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 07:00:07 -0400
From: ***@IC.AC.UK
Subject: Worlds: Mens team current standings

World Championships 1995
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Sabae, Japan 1-10 October 1995

DSF just started their live broadcast of the meet today.

Mens Team Current Standings
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1. Russia 560.971
2. Belarus 560.158
3. Korea 558.821
4. Bulgaria 557.285
5. Italy 556.361
6. France 553.524

One more group to go which includes the leading nations
of Japan, China, USA, Romania, Ukraine and Germany.

At least Russia had managed to move on top of the standings
with 6 teams to go.

Scherbo fell off Pommel Horse when there didn't seem to be
an apparent problem... his score was 8.95.

Ivankov, however, did an excellent pommels routine straight
after Scherbo to score 9.700.

Yeo of Korea scored 9.725 (I think) with a trademark long
and high Korean vault.

Nemov didn't fall off high bar :) but Chabaev did (8.725).

The final session just started so I'd better watch.

Sherwin

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 05:16:52 -0600
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject: WORLDS: Zelepoukina (UKR) injured

The AP reports that Svetlana Zelepoukina (UKR) broke her left elbow on
the floor ex in training on Friday, at the World Gymnastics
Championships.

Zelepoukina was 29th individually after the comps (4th best on her
team), and UKR was 5th.

Per FIG rules, since the competition has already started, UKR is not
allowed to substitute the alternate, so UKR will compete with six
gymnasts instead of seven.

Rachele

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 08:09:14 -0400
From: ***@EAGLE.LHUP.EDU
Subject: Re: Intro and question

Compulsories and Optionals are rated 50%-50%-actually they are just added
together. Hope that helps.

Julie

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 08:13:25 -0400
From: ***@EAGLE.LHUP.EDU
Subject: Re: Front tumbling

Jennifer:

It is my understanding that the FIG would like to encourage things like
front tumbling. That is why elements like fly springs were originally
valued as a B. Now that the athletes have developed better tumbling they
are dropping the value to an A. This system allows for encouragement but
does not mandate certain directions of passes. After all, it is an
optional routine and the judges have enough rules and requirements to
worry about. Also, you may have an athletes like Jaycie Phelphs who is
an an awesome front tumbler and if she want to do 2 front passes and 1
back that shouldn't be discouraged. Don't you think?

Julie

> Date sent: 5-OCT-1995 22:06:17
>
> *grins* I'm sitting here watching my tape of the Olympic Festival (god,
> being deprived of being in Sabe can make you do anything:)) and I heard
> Julianne McNamara's commentary on front tumbling, and it reminding me
> of something that I've been meaning to ask for a while. If front tumbling
> is to be encouraged, but they don't want to see it overdone, why not
> insist on an equal or lesser ratio? In other words, a gymnast may not
> have more front tumvling passes than they do back tumbling passes, and the
> back tumbling passes must be of equal or higher value? Does anyone
> think this would work? I'd like some opinions on this, because, while I
> like the front tumbling, I don't think it has done the job that was
> intended.
>
> Jenny :)
>
> PS Thanks to the people who have sent commentary. I will try to watch my
> posting.
>
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 08:14:41 -0400
From: ***@EAGLE.LHUP.EDU
Subject: Re: What is a tinisca (sp)?

A tinsica is a combination cartwheel and front walkover. It kind of
looks like a neat twisted front walkover. On beam the twisted angle
could create a straight line difficulty but it is only valued at an A.

Julie

> Date sent: 5-OCT-1995 22:25:26
>
> I was reading through the October IG, and caught their highlights, which go
> over some of the usual or eye-catching moves whoever it was wirintg the
> article saw. They mentioned that Soni Meduna "dared" to throw a tinsica or
> tinisca (spelling) to a punch front. What is this move?
>
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:05:21 -0400
From: ***@IC.AC.UK
Subject: Worlds: Mens Team Brief Results

World Championships 1995
========================

Sabae, Japan 1-10 October 1995

Mens Team Results
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1. China 566.619
2. Japan 563.558
3. Romania 561.947
4. Russia 560.971
5. Ukraine 560.934
6. Belarus 560.158
7. Germany 558.946
8. Korea 558.821
9. USA 558.784
10. Bulgaria 557.285
11. Italy 556.361
12. France 553.524

China successfully defended their World title with plenty
of room to spare. Japan claimed the silver in front of home
support, but the shock of the championship was that the
Romanian guys won the bronze! The three ex-Soviet states
all finished on the fringe at 4th to 6th place, Russia
having made much progress today, moving from 11th after
compulsories to 4th.

Igor Korobchinsky did the double layout on floor but landed
very low and would've smashed onto the floor flat on his face
but he brought his legs round just in time but his ankles
took a bashing and he had to be carried off...

The US guys didn't do too well today, ending up with quite a
few scores under 9.000.

The ROM guys did very well under pressure and a tremendous
team effort earned them a medal.

Sherwin

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:03:49 -0400
From: ***@ISSCAD.COM
Subject: Re: tinsica

> A tinsica is a great move. You start it like a cartwheel, ie side
> on, but half way through change to a front walkover. That's the best
> way I can think to explain it anyhow.
>
> Simone.
>

A tinsica is basically a front walkover except that the hand placement
is the same as a cartwheel, i.e. one hand is in front of the other, rather
then parallel to each other as they would be in a front walkover. Makes the
skill much more difficult.

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:20:13 EDT
From: ***@EOS.NCSU.EDU
Subject: World Trials on ESPN2?

Isn't ESPN2 supposed to have the World Trials on this weekend? My
brother back home was supposed to have taped them for me on Tuesday, but
his VCR isn't hooked up to his Primestar right or something. If anyone
can help, please email me back.

Thanks!

--Brent
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:16:42 +0100
From: ***@GL.RHBNC.AC.UK
Subject: World photo's

Ihear there are some world photo's from reuters floating around the net. Anyone
know where they are?

sarah

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