GYMN-L Digest - 3 Apr 1996 to 4 Apr 1996


There are 4 messages totalling 824 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

1. Kim Zmeskal's Comeback Attempt
2. Kim Zmeskal
3. Statistics and gymnastics project
4. GYMN-L Digest - 4 Apr 1996 - Special issue

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 19:57:15 -0600
From: ***@MAIL.COIN.MISSOURI.EDU
Subject: Re: Kim Zmeskal's Comeback Attempt

Hello, fellow Gymners...
I just read with dismay and disgust this recent post. Knocking the
members of Gymn is one thing, but dragging Kim Zmeskal's name into this
is another. If you are as concerned as I am, read on:

> " message" was filled with personal insults toward me. I would have loved to

I really can't believe this. I have seen Kim and she is as nice as can
be towards everyone.

> it,........ THE WORLD. If the message was real, for "great" Kim Zmeskal to
> e-mail me and spew filithy insults, is sickening. You would think this woman
> would have used that time to send positive responses to her fans, the people
> who LOVE her, not throw s*** at a total stranger she disagreed with. If I am
> so contemptible, as the "supposed" Kim claims, why were you wallowing in the
> mud?

I will admit that I have had personal words with Mr. Andrews in
private mail. I made mention that I have met Kim. What infuriates me is
that he seems to have dragged his apparent hatred towards me and my
opinions into a false "message" from Kim. My mail server let me know that
an outside source read my email address. I always took security for
granted, but now I have second thoughts. My only guess is that he somehow
forged a "message" from Kim with my email address tagged on.

> Olympics? Read the Atlanta Journal, Thursday, April 4. Call me a liar now. I
> knew that old b**** wasn't going to the Olympics six months ago. Anybody
> with any sense knows she washed up.

I really wonder what is eating him so bad. I have never, _never_ seen
anyone on this forum call anyone a name like that. If it is because of my
privately expressed opinions with him, fine. But he has no right in
dragging Kim into this. Come on, she may actually be reading this!

> HOW YA LIKE ME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After tonight, not very well.
Thank you for allowing me to express my concerns. I love this forum
and its discussions, but this has gotten out of hand when someone forges
_my_ name on a supposed "message."
Email me with responses, please, for advice on what do do. I fear that
he has infiltrated my system.

--Michael

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:15:36 -0800
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: Kim Zmeskal

You wrote:
>
>Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:05:56 -0500
>From: ***@INETNOW.NET
>Subject: Kim Zmeskal's Comeback Attempt
>
>I just saw an article in the Atlanta Journal today that said that Kim
>Zmeskal would not be attempting to make the 1996 Olympic team. At first I
>was disappointed, but I was not surprised.
>
>But tonight I got the most interesting e-mail message it is from a man named
>Micheal L. Roge. He claims it was a forwarded message from Kim Zmeskal. This
>" message" was filled with personal insults toward me. I would have loved to
>communicate with Kim Zmeskal by e-mail. But if this is really her, I have no
>desire. This whole experience with the hatred and venom spewed at me, has
>left a bad taste in my mouth toward gymnastics.
>
>I find some of you people some of the most closed-minded, hateful,
>vindictive people I have ever had the chance to meet on all of my time of
>the internet. What I expected to be a pleasant, rewarding, experience, has
>resulting in being absolutely vile. For those of you who wish to ignore me
>and call me personal insults, fine. But you can not ignore the truth. NEVER!
>This is why you persecute me now.
>
>The world knows the truth. Not the gymnastics osteriches who WANT to ignore
>it,........ THE WORLD. If the message was real, for "great" Kim Zmeskal to
>e-mail me and spew filithy insults, is sickening. You would think this woman
>would have used that time to send positive responses to her fans, the people
>who LOVE her, not throw s*** at a total stranger she disagreed with. If I am
>so contemptible, as the "supposed" Kim claims, why were you wallowing in the
>mud?
>
>For all of you who disagree with me, you must hate the Atlanta
>Journal-Constitution, TIME Magazine, Joan Ryan, countless newspapers and
>magazines, WAGA-TV, Kristie Phillips, Brandy Johnson, and a ton of other
>people. I got a lot of my information was from these sources. Did they lie?
>Are you saying TIME magazine lied? Kristie Phillips?
>
>Since you people delight in insulting me personally in public, and private,
>I will answer you here, in open public.
>
>Now I suppose I am telling rumor and lies about Kim not trying for the
>Olympics? Read the Atlanta Journal, Thursday, April 4. Call me a liar now. I
>knew that old b**** wasn't going to the Olympics six months ago. Anybody
>with any sense knows she washed up.
>
>HOW YA LIKE ME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>


OK ENOUGH!!!! I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU!!!! If you
have such a distaste for gymnastics why don't you unsubscribe???? I
mean, GEEZ!!!! How dare you call Kim Zmeskal a B****? Washed Up? And
what good have you ever done? She is NOT washed up. We already knew
that Kim isn't trying for another Olympics and no one said that you
lied. I think that you enjoy everyone arguing w/everyone. I think that
you get a real kick over pissing people off.
It's not fair to say those kind of things about
Kim. Why are you so upset over that message that she supposedly sent
you? It sounds like you don't believe it yourself so what's the big
deal. I never said I didn't like you. I just think that you need to be
more careful about what you say. We are on this forum to talk about
gymnastics not call one of America's best gymnasts a B****. I don't
think that you should call anyone washed up unless you can prove that
they are. I know that she isn't and so do millions of others. It's not
fair to rag on some ones talents unless your ready to compete against
them.

Lets Please Try To Keep The
Peace Here Galfar.

Laura

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:22:47 -0400
From: ***@HALCYON.COM
Subject: Statistics and gymnastics project

I have to do a project for my math class on statistics and I want to do
something related to gymnastics. One of my idea is the relation between
the height of a gymnast and its level (men, women, RSG), or level and
years spent in training or age and hours of training. If somebody has an
idea please tell me, I really need help (I have to know what my subject
is going to be by April 19th).
Thanks a lot, you can e-mail me privately.
Chloe

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:22:38 -0800
From: ***@U.WASHINGTON.EDU
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 4 Apr 1996 - Special issue

Something happened to these messages and all I got was Message #1. Can
you explain this?

Thanks

kew

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