GYMN-L Digest - 22 Mar 1995 to 23 Mar 1995

There are 12 messages totalling 299 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Pan Am: Rhythmic Group and Events
2. Trivia (2)
3. Nadia Special
4. Pegan (Was: Re: France Telecom Trophy) (2)
5. TV petition (2)
6. TV Coverage
7. Pan Am: Rhythmic Group an...
8. Dom D wins another award
9. If anyone, chew on ABC

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:06:54 -0700
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Pan Am: Rhythmic Group and Events

1995 Pan American Games
Mar del Plata, Argentina
March 22, 1995
Rhythmic Group and Event Finals

Group

1, Cuba (Yonaisis Amores, Yasleidy Rodriguez, Llisell Pedraza,
Yuliex Cuevas, Danae Varela), 18.699
2, United States (Mandy James, Orange Park, Fla.; Aliane Mata, New York;
Brandi Siegel, Miami; Challen Sievers, Downers Grove, Ill.;
Becky Turner, Kennesaw, Ga.), 18.599
3, Brazil (Dayane DaSilva, Luciana Barichielo, Camila Ferezin,
Fernanda Festa, Luciane DeOlivera), 18.500
4, Canada, 18.000
5, Argentina, 17.099

Rope

1, Yordania Corrales, Cuba, 9.266
2, Kiriena Ruiz, Cuba, 9.066
3, Tamara Levinson, Silver Spring, Md., 9.033
4, Gretchen McLennan, Canada, 9.000
5, Cecilia Schtutman, Argentina, 8.949
6, Luciana Eslava, Argentina, 8.932
7, Jessica Davis, San Anselmo, Calif., 8.866
8, Erin Burkett, Canada, 8.816.

Ball

1, Alejandra Unsain, Argentina, 9.233
2, Cecilia Schtutman, Argentina, 9.150
3, Tamara Levinson, Silver Spring, Md., 9.100
4, tie, Yordania Corrales, Cuba;
Jessica Davis, San Anselmo, Calif.;
Gretchen McLennan, Canada, 9.033.
7, Camila Ferezin, Brazil, 8.800
8, Yamile Sotolongo, Cuba, 8.566.

Hoop

1, Yordania Corrales, Cuba, 9.233
2, Jessica Davis, San Anselmo, Calif., 9.116
3, Tamara Levinson, Silver Spring, Md., 9.082
4, Gretchen McLennan, Canada, 9.049
5, Luciana Eslava, Argentina, 9.016
6, Yamile Sotolongo, Cuba, 9.000
7, Alejandra Unsain, Argentina, 8.982
8, Erin Burkett, Canada, 8.916.

Ribbon

1, Tamara Levinson, Silver Spring, Md., 9.166
2, Jessica Davis, San Anselmo, Calif., 9.100
3, Luciana Eslava, Argentina, 9.082
4, Cecilia Schtutman, Argentina, 8.932
5, Yordania Corrales, Cuba, 8.799
6, Yamile Sotolongo, Cuba, 8.783
7, Erin Burkett, Canada, 8.683
8, Gretchen McLennan, Canada, 8.500.

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:51:53 EST
From: ***@COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: Re: Trivia

>Hey Mara, this could be a cool trivia thing - Olympic
unluckies.

>>Good idea. Haven't done one of those in a while.

Did you ever notice that of the recent 'queens' of gymnastics (Olga, Nadia, Mary
Lou, Kim, Svetlana and Shannon, that only Shannon and Mary Lou have the same
number of letters in their names, and that they have the same number of letters
in their last names, and that both their last names have a double consonant in
the middle!!)

:) Couldn't resist
Jeff

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 07:42:00 UTC
From: ***@GENIE.GEIS.COM
Subject: Nadia Special

I finally got a chance to watch the tape of the Nadia special. I have
close friends who defected from Romania and and relatives that lived through
Enver Hoxhja in Albania. I could see a lot of their fears in Nadia. We
cannot imagine the fear of living under the likes of Ceacescu. Every
apartment building and house that was built in the last 50 years was bugged.
I heard many stories of talking with a friend on the street one day and the
next day - that person had disappeared from the face of the earth. Even
after my friends defected from Romania, they feared the long arm of the
securitati could find them and kill them in America. They had heard
stories where this had happened.
Also, in Balkan countries, the whole family is punished for the
action of one member. Nadia only hints at the danger in which she put her
family. They all knew their danger, but her situation must have been so
desperate that they supported her escape. The documentary mentions that if
the revolution had not happened, her family was to be eliminated by order of
Madam Ceaucescu. Her brother had been picked up by the securitati,
"questioned" and had his head shaved to mark him as an enemy of the state.
Nadia mentions fear at returning to the new Romania. To understand
this, you have to know that Iliescu and most of the high officials in
Romania today were subordinates to Ceaucescu. One of my friends was to
escort medical supplies to Romanian orphanages after the revolution, but
when Illiescu and his cohorts were voted into power, she was afraid to go
back. She was afraid of revenge or that she would not be allowed out of the
country again. I can imagine that Nadia might have the same fears. They
might not seem reasonable to us, but they are reasonable fears in Romania.
I felt that the Nadia story was an engrossing portrait of a deep and
complex woman who has emerged as a survivor through a mental strength that
few of us will ever need to know in our own lives.

Kathy E.

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 10:18:08 GMT
From: ***@IC.AC.UK
Subject: Pegan (Was: Re: France Telecom Trophy)

> >- Aljaz Pegan fell on his "Pegan" release on high bar.
>
> What is this? I've never seen him do it. Could someone please
> explain it?

From the FIG magazine _World of Gymnastics_ :

"It is a tucked Gaylord I (forward one and a half salto over the bar to
re-grasp) with half twist."

It is an E-element.

Sherwin

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:02:06 -0500
From: ***@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: Pegan (Was: Re: France Telecom Trophy)

> > >- Aljaz Pegan fell on his "Pegan" release on high bar.
> >
> > What is this? I've never seen him do it. Could someone please
> > explain it?
>
> From the FIG magazine _World of Gymnastics_ :
>
> "It is a tucked Gaylord I (forward one and a half salto over the bar to
> re-grasp) with half twist."
>
> It is an E-element.

Who's is the full-twisting Kovacs? Is that Aljoz Kolman?

:)
Adriana

This week's sentiment:

"There may not be a heaven,
But somewhere there's a San Francisco"

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:22:28 -0500
From: ***@WINNIE.FIT.EDU
Subject: TV petition

Gymnastics should be un-preemptable. Can't we start petitions to
the networks?? I'll "sign" my name first!!

Just me again,
Laura :)

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:32:40 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Trivia

>Did you ever notice that of the recent 'queens' of gymnastics (Olga, Nadia,
Mary
>Lou, Kim, Svetlana and Shannon, that only Shannon and Mary Lou have the
>same
>number of letters in their names, and that they have the same number of
letters
>in their last names, and that both their last names have a double consonant
in
>the middle!!)

What blows me away is that, except for maybe Nadia, all of these girls are
like so short! Not a single runway model in the bunch! Is this coincidence,
or is it blatant discrimination on the part of judges? ;-)

David

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:51:06 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: TV petition

Re: Laura's angst at Gymnastic preemption:

In this day and age of TV, nothing is *unpreemptable*!!!!! (Good word!)

But, before you deluge the networks with petitions you need to understand
that the network would like the local stations to run the network
programming. When affiliates run their own shows, the rating for the network
show drops.

The network cannot force any station to run network programming. The idea is
to present programming that most stations will run.

If someone is looking at ratings for a gymnastic event and the Pittsburgh
affiliate runs a movie, then the rating in Pittsburgh for gymnastics is 0.0!
So not only does it hurt the viewer at home who wants to see Gymnastics, it
hurts the whole number at the network level for the national ratings.

Affiliates are just that: stations which are affiliated with a network.
Programming choices are theirs. They can choose to run what the network
offers ----or they can choose to run an infomercial.

The decision to preempt gymnastics (or as many did two weeks ago to preempt
the World Figure Skating Championships) is made by the local station and the
local station alone. If you want to deluge someone, write to your local
Station's General Manager.

--David

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:45:56 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: TV Coverage

I remeber awhile back seeing a poll that listed women's gymnastics second
only to figure skating. Men's gymnastics was 7th or so--ahead of the NBA!
It seems, though, that as the U.S. has gotten increasingly better, so has
the coverage. I still think that if NBC can devote 7 hours to the World
Figure Skating Championships, they can give more time to U.S. Nationals. The
fan support is there, but something needs to be done to get the media to wake
up and realize there are other sports besides basketball and football!

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 18:13:05 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Pan Am: Rhythmic Group an...

I'll attach this to the Pan AM only so that true Rythmic fans pick it up. Red
River Rythmics has 8 competitors going to the Region II meet in Tacoma
Sat/Sunday--25/26. Anyone out there attending, it'd
be nice to hear results. Anyone going to be there?//Don

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 19:05:30 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Dom D wins another award

A blurb from the San Jose Mercury News

Mara
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MISCELLANY: Gymnast Dominique Dawes, 18, who will attend Stanford next fall,
and Chicago Bears lineman Chris Zorich were named recipients of the Henry P.
Iba Citizen Athlete awards.

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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 19:05:55 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: If anyone, chew on ABC

> I still think that if NBC can devote 7 hours to the World
Figure Skating Championships, they can give more time to U.S. Nationals.

I don't think NBC is the issue. Look at ABC who showed all of 5 minutes of
the Reeses Cup, and shows parts of Worlds 6 months later. What about CBS
that doesn't cover gymnastics [except for 1 yearly hour of NCAA] at all!

If you want to start a 'campaign,' my suggestion would be to focus it on
ABC's Worlds coverage of Sabae.

Mara

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