GYMN-L Digest - 4 Jun 1995 to 5 Jun 1995
There
are 9 messages totalling 243 lines in this issue.
Topics of the
day:
1. Benchmarking
(4)
2. The formal
introduction!!
3. Introduction
on GYMN-L
4. Two questions.
(2)
5. little girls in pretty
boxe
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 22:04:21
PDT
From: ***@CISCO.COM
Subject:
Re: Benchmarking
I was hoping that some of you on this listserv might be able to
help
generate a
benchmarking timeline of sorts which we could use to rate
her skills now versus what
is typical for an average gymnasts and what
is typical for a world-class
gymnast.
I don't know if this is possible. Some gymnasts suddenly pass a
sticking
point and blossom, others "burn out" just as quickly, and for
a
multitude of reasons. What do her
coaches say? They probably
have
a better idea than anyone else.
Financial interests aside, I think
most coaches will tell you if you
have a "star" that needs a better
coach (not likely at Karolyi's,
I guess.) I'm not sure about
the
other direction: "Your daughter will be a good gymnast, but she's
not
going to make the national team no matter how hard she works - she
should
take it easier (at a less intense gym) and aim for a great
collegiate
career..."
We are interested in understanding where she is on the curve and as
time goes on age 7,8,9,
etc. where she will need to be if
by 14,15
she wants
to be competing at near the top.
Does she "want to be competing
near the top"? IMHO, that's
not a great
reason to be doing gymnastics. Especially at age 6.
Chops
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 04:22:58
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: Benchmarking
>We are trying very hard to not fall into the
category of pushy parents,
but with gymnastics taking 22 hours per week + a
lot of $, etc.
Sounds like a lot of intensity for a 6-year-old. Any thoughts out there?
Mara
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 02:22:36
-0700
From: ***@ACCESSNV.COM
Subject:
Re: Benchmarking
> >We are trying very hard to not fall into the
category of pushy parents,
> but with gymnastics taking 22 hours per
week + a lot of $, etc.
>
> Sounds like a lot of intensity for a
6-year-old. Any thoughts out
there?
>
> Mara
>
My thoughts
exactly!!!! Don't forget to let her
be a 6-year-old once in
awhile!
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:46:24
+1000
From: ***@ONTHENET.COM.AU
Subject:
The formal introduction!!
Hi, I thought I had better introduce myself,
I have be subscribed for about
two weeks now and never really got around to
it!
My name is Chris (as above) I am 25yrs old, Male, I live on
the
Gold Coast of Australia (Queensland), I coach MAG (Mens Artistic
Gymnastics)
boys between levels 2 - 7.
I was actively involved in gym from the age of 7
and competed in
what was then called National Open Level
(New Zealand Level
system).
I have been coaching for about 2 years, after about 5 years away
from
the sport. So a lot of techniques
etc have changed, So If anyone has
any Tips or Techniques on Basic moves,
feel free to pass them on!!
I would be especially interested in
hearing from the few Australians
Subscribed to GYMN. I also intend on travelling through
Europe and America
early next year, and would love to catch up with some
GYMNers along the way,
so don't be scared to just say "Hello", My
address is as above!!
Well Thanx for listening,
Yours in
Gym
Chris
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 09:57:31
-0400
From: ***@NEWS1.MNSINC.COM
Subject:
Introduction on GYMN-L
Hello to all! After lurking for almost 2 months, it's
time for introductions.
Meet the ***'s of Herndon Virginia - I'm Stan,
this is my wife Janice,
son Matt, & daughter Marisa.
Like many
of you on GYMN-L, gymnastics plays a major part in our family.
Matt is a
13-year-old level 3 gymnast and Marisa is an 11-year-old level 8
gymnast -
both compete for the local Gymini Gymnastics Club. Janice and I
play the important role
delegated to all gym parents - pay the bills,
provide the taxi service,
spend hours upon hours waiting, and, most
importantly, attempt to balance
the scales between having a family life and
supporting our children in such
a demanding but equally rewarding sport.
With that short introduction
said, we would like to thank all of you,
especially Rachele, for keeping
GYMN-L alive, interesting, and very
informative. We'll return to our lurking for now but
look forward to the
time when we can add value to your discussions.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 10:27:59
-0600
From: ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:
Two questions.
I have two question for the gym community:
1)
Do alternates and coches receive medals at the Worlds and Olympics?
I have
seen several pictures in IG from the 1979 Worlds showing Bela
Karolyi with
a medal and I have seen teh USA's mens team alternate with a
medal. So I
ask, do alternates and coaches recieve medals at the team
awards at the
Olympics and Worlds. If so, I guess Bela must have alot!
2) Though
Shannon Miller has grown some since the 1992 Olympics, has her
elbow
affected her. Now I dislocated my elbow when I peeled off H-Bar and I
still
feel pain when I work it hard now. I just wondered that since she grew,
the
"screw" in her elbow might need replacement or she may have had
problems.
You hear alot abou; how she shot up 4 inches, but you don't hear
about this
past injury anymore. Does anyone know. Purdue doesn't get IG
anymore (since
'92) so I can't read about it.
Jeff
Apologies
for Typos.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 08:57:16
PDT
From: ***@ROYALDIGITAL.COM
Subject:
Benchmarking
>>We are trying very hard to not fall into the
category of pushy parents,
>>but with gymnastics taking 22 hours per
week + a lot of $, etc.
>Sounds like a lot of intensity for a
6-year-old. Any thoughts out
there?
My daughter just turned seven and there is no way she is
ready
to do 22 hours/week in the gym. She
tried the
pre-team group when she was five, but wasn't mentally
or
emotionally ready. With a 6 month
break, she came
back with great intensity and is doing very well. She
works out only 6 hours per week,
but she is always doing
handstands in our hallway and living room. I think that
with some concentrated
effort she could compete level 5
next year, but I don't think the coach
plans to do that.
But given another year at her current rate, she will
be
a very good level 5 competitor.
Our coach made it clear that
only 2% of gymnasts ever make
it to the elite level, so it is important to
make the
gymnastics experience itself enjoyable and rewarding.
I
must also say that my husband has made it clear that he
does not want to
sacrifice the rest of the family to push
one into a high level of
competition. So our
preconceived
slant on gymnastics does not include the elite level.
There's
my $.02.
Diane
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:14:01
-0400
From: ***@TSO.CIN.IX.NET
Subject:
little girls in pretty boxe
FORWARDED FROM: ***@collegeview.com
little girls in pretty boxes
Liz -- FYI -- I couldn't find it at the
library, but they were shutting off
the computers as I walked in. I'll keep
looking.
From: "Keyes, CJ"
<cj.keyes@tri-c.cc.oh.us>
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 95 08:35:00 EDT
Subject:
For your reading list
Has anyone besides me read "Little Girls in
Pretty Boxes". This is the new
book that exposes both gymnastics and
figure skating. REALLY HARD on
gymnastics and what it (or rather they, the
coaches) are doing with kids
physically. Like everyone says, you'll never
watch a gymnastics meet again
with the same feelings.
Book isn't
quite as hard on skaters--talks more about the financial crises
and strange
personalities than the physical problems. In fact, if you've
been around
skating for a while, you've run across most of the skating side
of the
book. Lots of pictures, mostly gymnasts.
Book should be in your local
library--check it out.
-----FORWARDER'S
COMMENTS:
This message was forwarded to me from a friend on a skating
listserve.
Obviously it has been creating great debate there as well. Though
t you all would like to hear
some other opinions on it.
TTYL,
Liz
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:10:40
-0700
From: ***@MCN.ORG
Subject:
Re: Two questions.
>the "screw" in her elbow might need
replacement or she may have had problems.
>You hear alot abou; how she
shot up 4 inches, but you don't hear about this
>
>Jeff
As
far as I know the screw was removed from her elbow a couple of years ago.
Orion
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