GYMN-L Digest - 1 May 1995 to 2 May 1995

There are 23 messages totalling 850 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. atlanta warning
2. Svetlana Boginskaya
3. May Calendar
4. Chinese Gymnast at Visa Cup: A Discussion. (2)
5. GYMN-L Digest - 25 Apr 1995 to 26 Apr 1995 (2)
6. NCAA Women's (2)
7. NCAA's Women (4)
8. VISA Challenge and the NCAA Championships
9. Podkopayeva/Gymnix Int'l
10. addresses
11. 1-arm UB move values (2)
12. Sites for next year's NCAA Champs
13. Rhythmic four continents results
14. U. Pitt
15. 1st Pacific Games
16. News from Germany

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Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 23:34:04 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: atlanta warning

To late. We ran into freaknik on Friday afternoon. Didn't know anything
about it. We went to the underground Mall and got bombarded. Scared the
living daylights out me. The college kids would try to grab my daughter to
take pictures with. And then we got caught in traffic for almost two hours
just to get two block away. I have never seen anything like it. I have been
though Mardi Gras now for ten years and I thought I have seen it all. But
this beat the cake. Your where right to advice people from going. Before we
left on Sunday, we picked up a local news paper. They had looted seven
stores and had done over $500.000.00 worth of damage. The locals were
telling us they are trying to move it New Orleans. But the Mayor already
told them no. THANK GOD.

Sandy

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Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 23:38:31 +0500
From: ***@CLARK.NET
Subject: Svetlana Boginskaya

I was absolutely delighted to see Svetlana Boginskaya compete at the Visa
Invitational. She is a marvelous gymnast and a great artist. However, last
time I saw her compete, she was a profoundly sad and burnt out young lady
who had announced her retirement. Then I turn on the TV on Saturday and
there she is, looking great with a smile I have never seen her wear.

For some of us who don't subscribe to any of the gymnastic 'zines, would
someone out there please give me/us a rundown on Svetlana's return? If she
is applying for citizenship, who is sponsoring her? Is she getting married?
I used to work with Russian emigres back in the bad old days of communism,
when the US would grant US citizenship to just about any Soviet that asked
(after a five year waiting period). It is now no longer so easy for them to
get it. I am thrilled that she is here, but very puzzled and curious as to
how she ended up in Karoly's gym.

Life is apparently looking up for her. I wish her all the happiness success
she deserves.
Vicki

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 00:21:24 -0400
From: ***@DELPHI.COM
Subject: May Calendar

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The Gymn Calendar

Anyone that has any events to add to this calendar, please mail them
to me.
All events on this calendar are subject to change. -- John
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May 1995
S M Tu W Th F S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31

5-7 Rhythmic J.O. Championships/ Atlanta, GA
5-7 Bulgaria Rhythmic Competition/ Sofia, Bulgaria
11-14 Boys' J.O. Nationals/ Oakland, CA
11-14 Junior J.O. Nationals (W)/ West Palm Beach, FL
13-14 Western Rhythmic Open/ Downer's Grove, IL
18-21 Senior J.O. Nationals (W)/ Lincoln, NE
20-21 Eastern Rhythmic Open/ TBA
22-29 Sports Acro Jr. World Championships/ Riesa, Germany
23-27 Canadian National Championships (M/W)/ Vancouver, BC (at UBC)
24-29 China Cup (M/W)/ Chengdu Sichuan Province, China
27-28 Golden Sands (M/W)/ Varna, Bulgaria
29-6/2 China Cup (M/W)/ Wuhun Hubei Province, China
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June 1995
S M Tu W Th F S
1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30

5-10 USAIGC Championships/ Orlando, FL
8-11 Canadian RSG Championships/ Winnipeg, Manitoba
9-11 Elite Regionals (W)/ TBA
9-11 USAG Rhythmic National Championships/ Jacksonville, FL
10-14 "Hopoel" Games (M/W/R)/ Tel Aviv, Israel
16-18 European Cup Final/ Rome, Italy
17-18 Budget Rent-A-Car Invitational/ San Jose, CA
24 BROADCAST European Cup (M)/ ABC, 4:30-6:00PM EDT
24-25 Rhythmic European Cup/ Telford, England
24-25 British Women's Team Championships/ Guildford, England
24-27 Junior Pacific Alliance/ Cali, Colombia
25 BROADCAST/Budget Rent-A-Car Invit./ NBC, 3:00-5:00PM EDT
30-7/2 Senior British Women's Championships/ Guildford, England
TBA BROADCAST/USAG Rhythmic National Champ./ CBS, TBA
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July 1995
S M Tu W Th F S
1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31

1-9 Special Olympics World Summer Games/ New Haven, CT
1 BROADCAST European Cup (W)/ ABC, 4:30-6:00PM EDT
1-2 Elite Regionals (W)/ TBA
6-9 Jr./Sr. Group Rhythmic European Champ./ Prague, Czech. Repub.
7-8 National Elite Gymnastics Festival (W)/ TBA
9-12 YMCA Nationals/ Savannah, GA
9-15 10th World Gymnaestrada/ Berlin, Germany
10-14 European Youth Olympic Days/ Bath, ??
16-23 USSAF Sports Acro Nationals/ Rockford, IL
21-30 U.S. Olympic Festival (M/W/R)/ Denver, CO
21-23 U.S. Classic Nationals/ TBA
TBA BROADCAST U.S. Olympic Fest. (M/W/R)/ TBA
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August 1995
S M Tu W Th F S
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31

12 Gymn's Third Anniversary
15-20 Western Canada Summer Games (M/W/R)/ Abbotsford, BC
16-19 Coca-Cola USA Championships (M/W)/ New Orleans, LA
19 BROADCAST Coca-Cola USA Champ. (M/W)/NBC, 8:00PM EDT
20 BROADCAST Coca-Cola USA Champ. (M/W)/NBC, 7:00PM EDT
17-20 USA Gymnastics National Congress/ New Orleans, LA
23-9/8 World University Games (M/W/R)/ Fukuoka, Japan
30-31 Int'l Junior Competition/ Yokohama, Japan
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September 1995
S M Tu W Th F S
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

8-9 NationsBank U.S. World Team Trials/ TBA
19-24 Rhythmic World Championships/ Vienna, Austria
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October 1995
S M Tu W Th F S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31

1-10 Artistic World Championships/ Sabae City, Japan
4-7 Olympic Congress of the USA/ Atlanta, GA
8 BROADCAST World Champs/ ABC, TBD
15 BROADCAST World Champs/ ABC, TBD
27-30 Third Annual National GymFest/ Carmel, IN
28-29 Junior Women's British Championships/ Liverpool, England
28-29 Camberley International (W)/ Camberley, England
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November 1995
S M Tu W Th F S
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30

1-4 Australia Cup/ Sidney, Australia
6-13 Sports Acro World Championships/ Wroclaw, Poland
14-17 Pre-Olympics (???)/ Atlanta, GA
24-26 DTB Cup/ Stuttgart, Germany
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December 1995
S M Tu W Th F S
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31

1-3 Swiss Cup/ Zurich, Switzerland
1-3 European Championships Team Final/ Charleroi, Belgium
7-8 Grand Prix/ Birmingham, England
16-17 Chunichi Cup/ Nagoya, Japan
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February 1996

9-11 American Classic/ Tulsa, OK
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April 1996

9-16 World Championships/ ???
15-21 Artistic World Championships/ San Juan, Puerto Rico
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May 1996

TBA Canadian National Champs. (M/W)/ Sault St. Marie, Ontario
16-19 U.S. Classic/ TBA
28-6/1 U.S. National Championships/ Knoxville, TN
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June 1996

27-30 U.S. Olympic Team Trials/ Boston, MA
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July 1996
S M Tu W Th F S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31

19-8/4 Games of the XVIth Olympiad/ Atlanta, GA
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August 1996

12 Gymn's Fourth Anniversary
16-27 Xth Paralympic Games/ Atlanta, Ga.
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August 1997

31-9/12 World University Games, Sicily, ITA
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July 1998

25-8/9 Goodwill Games, New York, N.Y.
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Summer 1999

TBD World University Games, Palma de Mallorca, ESP
TBD XIIIth Pan American Games, Winnipeg, Manitoba, CAN
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September 2000

16-10/1 Games of the XXVIIth Olympiad, Sydney, AUS
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October 2000

21-11/1 XIth Paralympic Games, Sydney, AUS
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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 00:53:30 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Chinese Gymnast at Visa Cup: A Discussion.

>AS for taking gymnastics away from the one-arm: I can support this for
safety reasons.

This argument has been made regularly since modern gymnastics emerged as a
mainstream athletic endeavor, and it is as much falderal today as ever.

Generally, the concerned voices who call for gymnastics to be toned down and
tricks to be reigned in are those who fear that they or their favorite
gymnastics will be unable to keep up.

Nobody should reward routines with great tricks but poor form. But nobody
should penalize excellent routines with virtuosity, originality, and risk.

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 01:05:20 -0400
From: ***@DELPHI.COM
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 25 Apr 1995 to 26 Apr 1995

Ian,

Thanks for the invite... I'll take you up on both offers.

I will be arriving in Oakland on Wednesday, March 10th
sometime just around noon (don't have the flight plans here in
front of me). With me will be: Shane Defreitas, John Kolb,
Aaron Macintyre, Scott Miller, Rustin Davis, and Bradley
Golden. Jason Graham would have been with us but he broke his
damn thumb on p. bars just before regionals.

I will also be meeting with my sister who lives out there. She
is kinda on the wild side... I guess you'll just have to see
for yourself.

Welp, bye for now and congratulations again on a fine finish
this year!

See ya in about a week and a half!

-Jeff-

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 01:06:53 -0400
From: ***@DELPHI.COM
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 25 Apr 1995 to 26 Apr 1995

Whoops, I forgot to send the address. Here it is:

Jeff ***
**** Drive
Orlando, FL 32835

See ya!

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 01:18:20 EDT
From: ***@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: NCAA Women's

Stella Umeh of UCLA cannot compete at USA's
she is Canadian.

so is Leah Homma of UCLA and Lori Strong of Georgia
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5)Someone earlier commented that she wondered if these women were
eligible
to compete at USA's. I dunno, but some of them certainly have the
difficulty to. Let's see...I counted several double layouts on floor
(only
saw Marrow's, but I know Kim Arnold of Georgia and Stella Umeh of UCLA
also throw them, and I could be forgetting some), several full-ins
(including a laid out one from Beth Wymer, who knocked my socks off) and
vaults which would all be 9.8 value or higher. YIKES!
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Chris

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 00:59:08 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: NCAA's Women

Date sent: 2-MAY-1995 00:55:32
This regarding Aimee Trepanier's floor routine. I think she
had enough difficulty in those two passes, plus in her dance,
to get a 10 start. However, I was informed today that she would
have received a .1 deduction for not performing a third pass.
I was then told that any salto combination would "pass as a pass".
So, would her roundoff, full-twisting backhandspring have made
it the last pass, and therefore have avoided the decduction?

Adriana, you seem to know about stuff like this. I appeal specifically
to you. HELP! Personally, I think even if the routine only has two
passes, and has sufficient difficulty, it deserves a 10 start, and
Trepanier's routine really appealled to me...so..?


Jennifer

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:02:38 -0400
From: ***@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU
Subject: Re: VISA Challenge and the NCAA Championships

I agree w/ Amy on the Moceanu topic.... I too am more impressed with her
then Jenie Thompson. She has good difficulty and better form... And Bela
is great and watching him react is half the fun of a meet to me. It was
good to see him back. Monica


> Item Subject: Message text
> Hi everyone! I just wanted to offer a few impressions of the
> competitions that were on T.V. this past weekend. Being from Atlanta,
> it was very sad to see the demise of Georgia once again. But, I guess
> Utah proved that consistency can win a gymnastics meet. I was really
> not impressed with very many of their rountines, but they definitely hit
> cold! I have a question, though. How did Aimee Trepanier get a 9.9 on
> floor with only 2 tumbling passes? Did that rountine really come out of
> a ten?
>
> I attended the event finals and I was ABSOLUTELY AMAZED by Jenny Hansen!
> The short clip on television failed to do her justice. It was
> especially amazing to me to compare her warm-up to her actual
> competitive rountine--I guess that's why she's a champion!!! But, she
> fell 3 times during beam warm-up and then rocked a 10.0 set!! It
> included: a front on mount, back handspring, 2 layouts (the only one in
> finals, if I remember correctly), a punch front, back handspring to a
> split leap with a HALF TURN and a double full dismount...all done
> perfectly!! In addition, she did full-ins on bars and floor! My
> question is: Where was she before she attended Kentucky? INMO, the
> U.S. National team could have really used her!!
>
> About the VISA Challenge. First of all, I was so impressed by Bogi
> (even though she missed the arabian double front on floor). I must
> admit I was quite skeptical about her ability to make a successful
> comeback at the age of 22. But, I am now a believer!! It's incredible
> that she's actually do more difficulty now then when she retired! The
> only other time I saw her do a full-in off bars was at the event finals
> of the '89 Worlds...6 years ago! BTW, do any of our judges know what
> the start value of her UB routine was? I thought a 9.5 seemed a little
> low. But, I guess the scoring was tight throughout. But, I was most
> surprised about her HUGE SMILE-even during her beam rountine!! It was
> great to see!!
>
> But, I definitely think the Chinese team was way underscored on bars and
> beam and I applaude Bart and Kathy for saying so! I personally thought
> the one-armed giant on UB was great! Of course, it could be cleaned up
> a little, but I think new innovations are the correct direction of the
> sport. Any other opinions?!!
>
> Finally, I think we've seen the true arrival of Dominique Moceanu. I
> know her AA win was somewhat tainted by Dom Dawes' withdrawal, but it
> was still an international victory. This was the first time I've gotten
> to see all her optional rountines and I thought she looked really good
> (especially on vault and beam). She has alot of difficulty and
> relatively good form on V,BB, and FX. She impressed me even more than
> Jennie Thompson, I think. Also, I know many people will disagree with
> me, but I thought it was neat seeing Bela around again.
>
> Anyway, that's my very long two cents! Any other feelings about these
> topics?
>
> Until later,
>
> Amy
>

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:53:03 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: NCAA Women's

Date sent: 2-MAY-1995 08:44:34
Hey, Chris, you forgot Jennifer Wood and Larissa Lowing at LSU,
and some girls who are at Florida, all Canadian gymnasts. Yes,
I knew they were from Canada, but I was just mentioning Umeh as
one of several performing a double layout. Sorry for the confusion.


Also, someone mentioned a while back that "Where was Jenny Hansen?"
"The national team coulda used her." I think it was Amy. Well, hansen
is the perfect case of one of those athletes who did NOT flourish at
the elite level and who EXCELS at college gymnastics. To my knowledge,
Hansen competed at nationals in 1990, 1991, and 1992, but never made
the national team. She also competed in 1989, too, I think. Never a
national team member, also I think never did any better than 25th or so.

Hansen and a few others who excelled at the college level (Aimee Trepanier
Suzanne Metz and Shelly Scharrer of Utah, Dana Dobransky and DeeDee Foster
of Alabama, certainly others I am forgetting) never really "made" it at
the elite level (oh, forgot Beth Wymer of Michigan :)) Then again, there
are athletes who were from a VERY successful elite career (Melissa Marlowe
most notably) who did very well in college...and then there is Kim Kelly,
who hasn't really ever put it together at a national championship.

Jennifer

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:29:07 -0600
From: ***@HARRIER.SASKNET.SK.CA
Subject: Podkopayeva/Gymnix Int'l

Hi all,

I watched my tape of Gymnix International coverage again and listened
to the French commentating a little closer.

Anyway, Podkopayeva's *back* was sore, not her ankles as I had mentioned
in my report way back when.

Woops.

Just wanted to clear things up...

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:55:01 -0400
From: ***@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: NCAA's Women

> Date sent: 2-MAY-1995 00:55:32
> This regarding Aimee Trepanier's floor routine. I think she
> had enough difficulty in those two passes, plus in her dance,
> to get a 10 start. However, I was informed today that she would
> have received a .1 deduction for not performing a third pass.
> I was then told that any salto combination would "pass as a pass".
> So, would her roundoff, full-twisting backhandspring have made
> it the last pass, and therefore have avoided the decduction?
>
> Adriana, you seem to know about stuff like this. I appeal specifically
> to you. HELP! Personally, I think even if the routine only has two
> passes, and has sufficient difficulty, it deserves a 10 start, and
> Trepanier's routine really appealled to me...so..?

More than happy to oblige :) -- only *two* acrobatic series are required
in a women's FX routine. An acro series is a series of at least three
acrobatic elements, one of which must be a salto. One of the acro series
has to have 2 saltos, and stuff like double backs don't count; they have
to be separate saltos. Incidentally, neither a roundoff nor a
full-twisting back handspring is a salto. A salto means there is no
hand support.

:)
Adriana

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 13:26:42 -0500
From: ***@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: Chinese Gymnast at Visa Cup: A Discussion.

>>AS for taking gymnastics away from the one-arm: I can support this for
>safety reasons.
>
>This argument has been made regularly since modern gymnastics emerged as a
>mainstream athletic endeavor, and it is as much falderal today as ever.
>
>Generally, the concerned voices who call for gymnastics to be toned down and
>tricks to be reigned in are those who fear that they or their favorite
>gymnastics will be unable to keep up.
>
>Nobody should reward routines with great tricks but poor form. But nobody
>should penalize excellent routines with virtuosity, originality, and risk.

Does that mean that you think there should be no banned moves? I'm
thinking specifically of roll-out tumbling, which is no harder than
tumbling to the feet, but is much more dangerous. Do you really believe
that the only motive for changing the code of points to discourage this
sort of move is the hope that less skilled gymnasts will be able to keep
up?

I'm starting to wonder whether there should be a fifth event added to
women's gymnastics (although I know it's sacrilege to say so in polite
company :-) ). I don't kow whether I'd support this or not, but if women
competed on high bar (or perhaps a modified version of high bar), they'd
get to have a thinner rail to increase the safety of one-arm moves and
other moves where peeling off is a strong possibility. At the same time,
the uneven bars could be moved closer together again to facilitate some of
the interesting transitions that have become impossible to do.

Short of this drastic solution, could uneven bars be made somewhat thinner
now that no one is doing beats anymore?

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 12:12:24 -0700
From: ***@SEATTLEU.EDU
Subject: Re: NCAA's Women

Regarding Amy Trepanier's floor routine: Yes you can fulfill all of your
acrobatic requirements on floor with only two passes. To do this, one
pass must have one salto and the other pass would have to have two saltos
and all three saltos would have to be different. If I remember she did
something like full-in for the first pass and a double full punch front
for the second, or something similar. That fulfills all of her Special
Requirements. Often at big meets, however, the judges make up rules that
are unwritten so they can separate the athletes by artificial means. So
if you heard that they were taking 0.1 off routines that only had 2
passes, that is very possible. Some judges just cannot handle that the
athelete are meeting their requirments and need to find other ways to keep
their scores lower. It is solely up to the judges and the coaches and
athletes often are unaware of these occassions and therefore cannot
prepare routines that would be able to meet these unwritten requirements.

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 16:15:56 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: Re: NCAA's Women

Date sent: 2-MAY-1995 16:11:42
*giggle* I hate to think how many people are in the process of
posting the tumbling info...Anyway, I was about to post the answer
myself; went and asked our college coach today. Seems you must
have at least two passes, one of which must have two saltos (which
is, of course, what all my mail today has been about ;))

In any case, I have to wonder if the judges were still downgrading
Trepanier. Judging from what I know of the four routine above her
or equal to her in the appartus finals (Umeh, Angeles and Hansen tied
for first, she tied with Leah Brown for fourth) I have to say, Trepanier's
routine appealed to me more than brown's (Trepanier had better music,
better dance, and more attitude!) and also Angeles (same deal as with
Brown). *sigh* I guess sometimes you just have to accept the judges
have their own unwritten agenda.

Jennifer

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 17:21:45 -0600
From: ***@TTACS.TTU.EDU
Subject: addresses

Last I heard Silivas was working in Atlanta for a club where some other
romanians lived.

As for Onodi, she will be in Hungary for the majority of the summer, but if you
would like to write her you can do that at the following address:

Henrietta Onodi
c/o South Texas Gymnastics Academy
4335 Vance-Jackson #3
San Antonio, TX 78230

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 18:48:18 EDT
From: ***@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: 1-arm UB move values

a one-arm before '92 was a B. I do not know if
it was ever worth more.


Chris

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 17:02:36 -0700
From: ***@BETA.TRICITY.WSU.EDU
Subject: Sites for next year's NCAA Champs

A little introduction here....

My name is Monica and I work as a chemical engineer at Pacific
Northwest Laboratory in Richland, Washington, USA. I am not or ever have been
a gymnast. I do, however, really love and appreciate this sport, which is why
I subscribe to this list. I enjoy picking up the knowledge about scoring
and the names of the different apparatus moves. I can tell the knowledge
is clicking in when I watch meets live or on TV. Sometimes I have to
wonder if even I possess more knowledge than many of these idiot sport
commentators.

I've been a fan since watching Mary Lou Retton in the 1984 Olympics. I
have recently taken an interest in collegiate gymnastics and have attended
the women's events locally at Oregon State and U of Washington. I
especially enjoy Oregon State and have religiously attended their meets
for the last five years.

Does anyone know where the NCAA Regionals (all five sites) and the
Championships will be held for 1996? I understand that these things have
already been figured out.

Thanks!

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:11:56 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Rhythmic four continents results

I would Like to report on the results of the Rhythmic Gymnastics Four
Continents Competition.
1.Kisumi Takahashi/ australia
2. unknown
3. unknown
4. Jessica Davis/ USA
5. unknown
6. Tamara Levinson/ USA

Juniors
4. Natatlie Lecuesta USA
6. Lauri Illy USA

Group
USA came in 2nd in hoop and 7th all around.

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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 10:57:14 +1000
From: ***@STUDENT.GU.EDU.AU
Subject: Re: 1-arm UB move values

Hi Everyone,

All this talk about one arm releases made me remember Anna Shakhoval of
the Ukraine. At the 1993 Nikon she did two releases which, I'm pretty
sure, were caught with one arm. At the time my only thought was
'what the !@#* was THAT!?' Unfortunately the routine wasn't included in
the TV highlights so I haven't seen it since. But she scored a 9.75 for
it which was the third highest score of the meet (Rusan 9.825 FX &
Grosheva 9.775 UB were higher). So I'm guessing the judges gave them a high
value.

Anyway, a friend in Europe saw her at the Chareloi Jnr Tournament about
the same time and described her UB ".....a full pirouette to one-armed
tcatchev (like Shushunova) twice, once catching with the left and once
with the right arm". From my pathetic memory they seemed more like
Markelovs (straddeled like Khorkina) caught with one arm. They seemed to
hang in the air a long time and the crowd was totally confused (or at
least it had everyone sitting near me scratching their heads!)

If anyone has the routine on tape, and can properly describe the move I'd
really appreciate it. Then again didn't she compete at the 93 Hilton?
Did she use those 'wierd' releases there?

Michelle

P.S. Remember Shevchenkos crouched spin on BB? What's it's value in the
code? Does it have one? It always seemed to be as difficult as her
tumbling, and I can't recall anyone else having done it.......Wouldn't
you like it to be an 'E' just to see all the 'code suckers' go spinning
off one by one onto the mats ;-)

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 21:52:40 -0400
From: ***@PANIX.COM
Subject: U. Pitt

From the AP:

The U. of Pittsburgh will drop men's gymnastics and tennis and add
women's soccer in 1996-97. "Once the women's soccer team is fielded,
Pitt will have 9 men's and 9 women's teams."

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 21:57:36 -0400
From: ***@PANIX.COM
Subject: 1st Pacific Games

From the German news agency, DPA:

Athletes from 25 countries will compete in the 1st Pacific Games, to be
held from 23 June-3 July in Cali and other cities in Colombia. A
spokesman for the organizing committee said on Monday that world sports
powers RUS, USA and CHN have made firm commitments to attend. Other
delegations sending teams include AUS, NZL, CAN and MEX.

Organizers said that approximately 3,000 athletes will compete for medals
in 14 sports, including track & field, boxing, cycling, swimming,
baseball and gymnastics.

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Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 22:10:06 -0400
From: ***@PANIX.COM
Subject: News from Germany

From the DPA:

"World and European champions from the former USSR and Romania competed
in the 'Tournament of Champions' over the weekend in Cottbus for 100,000
DM in prize money."

The article then goes on to say that Andreas Wecker enjoys gardening at his
cottage outside of Berlin -- when he's not training for 7 hours a day,
that is. He hasn't trained much in the last 5 weeks because he's had the
flu. Valery Belenky (KTV Stuttgart) leads the Bundesliga in prize money
(10,169 DM). He's ranked 1st on V, PH and PB; 3rd on HB; and 8th on FX
and R.

Some of the female gymnasts in Cottbus were Milosovici and Gogean (ROM),
Podkopayeva (UKR), Khorkina (RUS), and Kreibich and Pioch (GER).

NO RESULTS WERE PRINTED! :(

Debbie

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