gymn Digest Thu, 27 Jan 94 Volume 2 : Issue 64

Today's Topics:
[COL] UGa Sneak Preview
Classical floor music (2 msgs)
Delay of trivia...
floor music (4 msgs)
Goodbye
Reese's Roundup (2 msgs)
USA Gymnastics Color Catalog

This is a digest of the gymn@athena.mit.edu mailing list.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 08:51:24 -0600
From: <***@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: [COL] UGa Sneak Preview

BTW--I competed women's all around for two years....

When I ran the U of Illinois gymnastic's club, we didn't have enough
people for full teams for both men and women so everyone would compete
everything!

It was a lot of fun and gave insight as to the difficulties the other
gender has to endure. It was also neat to see how people would fare.
We had one female gymnast who could easily outscore a number of men on
RINGS!

I won't say a whole lot for my UPB set, but my beam started at a 9.9
by the old code.

Julius

Granted....did I ever stay on.....? :)

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 12:12:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: ***@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: Classical floor music

Someone asked about "classical" floor music. While I do not know of
other companies who produce tapes, usually all one needs is a good
recording of something and a tape recording unit with a pause button.
Local libraries and colleges usually have a selection, so you can pick
what you want. A few things come to my mind - Holst's "The Planets"
(Mars is good, Mercury and Jupiter are excellent), Sarasate solo
violin works, and so on. Movie music ( a complete soundtrack such as
Enncino Morricone or John Williams, not a compilation of pop tunes) is
always good. If anyone has specific questions about what type they're
looking for, you can mail me directly. Hope this helps.
q Cara

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 9:56:34 PST
From: ***@sol.metaware.com
Subject: Classical floor music

Cara said:

> something and a tape recording unit with a pause button. Local libraries and
> colleges usually have a selection, so you can pick what you want. A few things
> come to my mind - Holst's "The Planets" (Mars is good, Mercury and Jupiter are

my favorite piece in the world is "That Plantets"!!! That would be great
to hear someone do FX to!

--Robin

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 14:42:15 -0500 (EST)
From: ***@delphi.com
Subject: Delay of trivia...

Hey Gymn,

This time I have a good reason for the delay of trivia. Owlnet (the
network I use on a regular basis) has been called down because of a
security break. It's been down since Saturday, actually. Anyways, I
haven't been able to access the info I have stored on that account for
awhile, so the NCAA Men's trivia set will be delayed one week.

If you've mailed me non-gymn mail @rice.edu (or @owlnet.rice.edu), if
it bounced, try mailing it to rachele@sosi.com. [I've set that mail to
forward to Delphi.] If it didn't bounce, it's on my account, and I'll
probably be able to reply on Friday or Saturday...

I haven't been able to read about the Reese's yet! (assuming that it's
been posted)...

Thanks for everyone's patience,

Rachele

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 10:53:20 -0400 (EST)
From: <***@indiana.edu>
Subject: floor music

Say, does anyone know where you can get floor music other than Floor
Express? Several girls in our gym would like new music, but the
coaches want classical and we're tired of the same old stuff. I seem
to remember seeing an ad in I.G. for another company, but I can't
remember who it is or where I saw it. Any info. on this would be
greatly appreciated.
.........lisa

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 17:34:56 +0100
From: ***@avila.inesc.pt
Subject: floor music

lblackwe wrote: Say, does anyone know where
you can get floor music other than Floor Express?
>Several girls in our gym would like new music, but the coaches want classical
>and we're tired of the same old stuff. I seem to remember seeing an ad in
>I.G. for another company, but I can't remember who it is or where I saw it.
>Any info. on this would be greatly appreciated.
> .........lisa
>

Hi

How about a group called "Art of Noise" ?
They got many instrumental musics with a good rhythm.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 10:42:25 PST
From: <***@cisco.com>
Subject: floor music

Well, hire a musician... At least, that's how we did it back in the
days of piano only floor music... If you are at a school, check with
the music department. They may be willing to help, even to the extent
of allowing you to record a section of a rehersal "specially arranged"
to the proper length.

Chops

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 17:34:56 +0100
From: ***@avila.inesc.pt
Subject: floor music

lblackwe wrote: Say, does anyone know where
you can get floor music other than Floor Express?
>Several girls in our gym would like new music, but the coaches want classical
>and we're tired of the same old stuff. I seem to remember seeing an ad in
>I.G. for another company, but I can't remember who it is or where I saw it.
>Any info. on this would be greatly appreciated.
> .........lisa
>

Hi

How about a group called "Art of Noise" ?
They got many instrumental musics with a good rhythm.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 08:53:15 -0600
From: <***@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Goodbye

Well, everyone, this may be goodbye. I know I haven't been posting much
lately. I've just finished the work on my master's degree and am I tired!

As of Jan 27th, I will probably lose access to the net until I enroll in a
new school. (Either U Texas Austin or Hampden-Sydney in Virginia).

I will try to get info through America Online or Delphi if I have the
opportunity (read money).

Thanks y'all!

Julius

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 11:28:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: ***@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: Reese's Roundup

Okay, here's the deal - the wonderful Canon camera and 200mm zoom
lens I borrowed to photograph the meet JAMMED!!! ARGH!!! My eternal
gratitude to Dennis who was kind enough to loan me his camera during
women's floor. But it gave me some wonderful practice in notetaking
skills - this report shall be a copious one.
So we show up to Baltimore Arena and see Shannon, Dom, Gutsu and
everyone warming up and we're saying "Where's Kim? Where's Betty? Is
there an auxiliary gym around or what?" Turns out Betty got a slight
injury in practice on Saturday, so she hung around the meet in
civilian clothing and meet anouncer Stormy Eaton brought her up to the
microphone for Q&A when there were music technical difficulties.
No word on Kim. Nada. A total no-show. Cara VERY sad...
The meet announced ten women and ten men. No such luck there - only
seven of each - Gutsu, Lysenko, Galieva, Chusovitina, Shannon, Dom,
Henni, Bilozerchev, Novikov, Gogoladze, Mogilny, Wecker, Kroll and
Dimas. Tamara Levinson (rhythmic gymnast) performed exhibitions in
hoop and ribbon. I like her a lot - she seems to have tons of physical
and expressive talent.
The meet was formatted with no vault for anyone, and on the other
events the score was out of 100 instead of 10. There were three
judges, one to score technical stuff, one to score artistic (I think)
and one to score performance quality. Dennis had a good write up of
this in an earlier posting. Then each judge had the choice of giving
up to three bonus points in the categories. Then where did the other
point come from for a 100? Who knows?! No 100s were awarded. The men's
judges were Abie Grossfeld, Tim Dagget and Jim Hartung. They all
looked great and were having fun. The only women's judge I recognized
was Linda Kardos, former National Team member.
Bars for women and men's floor were the first events. I'd never seen
much of this before, but the new, more "artistic" bars includes
interpretive dance both before and after the bar routine. In my
opinion it works much better for beam. Roza started off in a purple
leo w/ a blousy top and white tassels on the shoulders and her socks,
with a cowpoke theme.
Lysenko is a wonderful dancer, had 1 fall on a transition and her
dismount was (I think - it was very strange looking) a front giant to
a tucked front w/ a half twist to intense music.
Chusovitina took my breath away all night, starting with her bars.
She had a black unitard W/ dark purple tassels and a black cape. She
works so much speed on bars, including eagle giants and the toss full
like Shannon does. Stormy says she pickes mushrooms in her spare time.
Gutsu was not happening on bars and had a couple of pauses and a bad
break on a transition. Her form was on the sloppy side. All of the
Russian Bloc gymnasts did interpretive bars routines w/ music - the
other three did not.
Onodi did an okay bars - she took an extra swing after her jaeger but
did nice front giants and pirouette work.
Dom swung beautiful bars, but her only release move was a
Shaposhnikova (clear hip on low shoot thru to high - Olga Strazeva did
an amazing one).
Shannon had a pretty purple leo w/ shiny green stuff on the arms and
worked her usual amazing routine with a new trick, which I had trouble
analyzing - it looked like a (facing the low) full pirouette on high
while starting a backward swing away from the low bar into a counter
swing to low. I took me by surprise - please watch the TV coverage to
see if I got it right. It looked like the new compulsory move the
"slip grip" with a full pirouette. She ended with an archy, whipy
layout double. She and Dom tied for second w/ a 96, and Chusovitina
got first w/ a 97.
Highlights on men's floor included Andreas Wecker's floor - double
layout mount, then an amazing middle pass of front handspring, front
layout, front tuck front tuck! This man can front tumble! Gogoladze
took second from him with a middle pass of front handspring, front
layout full, punch front.
Novikov then had the routine of the day - he did a choreographed
routine to the music of "Stayin' Alive" with a judo theme - it was
wonderful!!! He wore a black t-shirt and long black martial arts
pants. The dance was wonderful and very inspired, the tumbling was
great and the transitional tricks included an unusual scale in the
corner and - get this - a V support dislocate so he went over his head
and his feet touched the ground! Everyone was very impressed - he got
a 97. He was the only male to do a choreographed floor ex.
Highlights on pommels included the highest score of the day for - who
else - Mogliny. He appeared to still be competing the SAME amazing
marathon routine he did at the Goodwill Games in 1990. His work, such
as the traveling one-arm circles down and back for the mount has to be
seen live to be believed. I don't think television does his pommel
grace justice. They gave him a 99.
Trent Dimas, before he went up, tucked three Reese's packages into
his waistbank and then walked over and gave them to the judges!
Everyone loved it!
Gutsu won beam just by her elaborate routine. She dressed all in red,
with a ladies hat, boa, skirt and spaghetti strap leo and holding a
yellow rose. Then she put the hat on the beam, took off the boa and
dropped the rose and did her ro layout mount, put the hat on, danced,
threw the hat off, did her handspring to two layouts, the three
handsprings to tucked double dismount, picked up the rose, handed it
to the judges, and emoted some more all to the music of .... "The Lady
in Red" by Chris DeBurgh. Only problem was a bobble on her full turn.
She scored a 98.
Chusovitina had a great routine as well, including her taking off her
hat at the beginning of the routine, then dismounting off the opposite
end only to pick up -- her hat!!! Dennis had noticed Lysenko running
like a fiend to pick the hat up and deposit it at the other end. Punch
front mount, a front ariel, a nifty Y-scale, then a punch front to
immediate standing back. She attacks every event in her path. she
scored a 96.
Shannon did her usual routine except with no punch front mount - she
did a straddle press to handstand on the end of the beam - and only
did two layouts instead of the usual (and warmed up) three.
Dom and Shannon got the same beam score - 97 - but Dom was much more
dynamic. Her two-footed handspring to three layouts was stuck COLD,
her tucked front was right on, her full-in dismount was high w/ only 1
step, and her three straddle jumps were way high. I think she threw
that leap Strug started - the switch leg to straddle thing - as well.
Roza, Heni and Lysenko all did nice beam routines, including
Tatiana's expression on Elvis Presley's "Now or Never" and her 3/4
turn on her back. It may have been 1 1/4 - I didn't see where her head
started.
Rings was very stock - nothing differed between this and regular
competition. Wecker won with a 98 - he started from a dead hand and
PULLED himself up to an L support! Wow! Then he went to a handstand,
spread his arms, held it, then swung a giant to end in the SAME
position. Stormy was teasing him about his incredible biceps - he's
very right.
I think Bilozerchev won p-bars. He threw what looked to be the same
routine from 1988, including his amazing flares on the end of the bars
mount. Novikov threw a sky-high double front, and wore jeans and a
t-shirt for both p-bars and high bar.
Women's floor, after so many theatrics added to beam & bars, had
nothing new added to it except for a couple of flashy leos.
Galieva convinced me that women a good front tumblers too. Her middle
pass was front handspring, front layout front layout! Ack! Lysenko did
a nice routine to Carmen but stepped out on her opening 2 1/2 to punch
front. Gutsu did a cute routine in high-water jeans and sleeveless
shirt to "Don't Be Cruel", but had the weakest tumbling.
Chusovitina did a dramatic routine that included a sky-high double
layout. Dennis noticed that her music was just a jazzed up version of
her old stuff.
Onodi did her Olympic routine, complete with full tumbling starting
with her solid triple twist. It was the best danced and in my opinion
the smoothest choreography of anyone. She now goes to school in San
Antonio, the "great city in southwestern Hungary" according to that
wacko announcer Stormy.
Dom did the exact routine as in Nationals, but she seems a lot more
free with it now. She wore white leos in the other two events, but for
this she put on a stunning black leo with hot pink on top covered with
black lace. It looked sooooo much better.
Shannon left before floor to catch a flight. Dennis was wondering if
it wasn't because that Chusovitina and Dom had a chance to beat her.
Hmmmm....
High bar was cool. Trent did his Olympic routine and looked
exceptional, except for overrotating the triple dismount. I think that
Bilozerchev did a lot of his '88 Olympic routine as well. Wecker did a
cool thing where he just let go at the top of a giant, then grabbed
back on. It was a hop full w/o the full. Kroll's dismount was a piked
double front 1/2 out (out of front giants) which looked cool.
AA went like this: 1) Wecker 468 2)Bilozerchev 462 3)Mogilny 461

1) Chusovitina 288 2) Dom 287 3) Gutsu 276

General impressions -
I mentioned Chusovitina before. She doesn't perform, she attacks. It
was amazing to see her live. Both Galieva and Lysenko were in
wonderful form. Gutsu was slightly under her good form, but better
than other recent pro things. Onodi has to wear a back support at all
times when she warms up. Shannon also looked like her back was stiff -
Nunno was helping stretch it out. Dom looked - well - awesome.
Bilozerchev's leg looked very strong, and his strength seems to have
evened out between his upper and lower body. Mogilny looked great, and
Wecker impressed the heck out of me. Novikov is really in his element
in these events. He is a ham and has lots of fun. btw, he's an
assistant coach at Penn State.
ABC had some of their people way to close at times. Gutsu had to keep
from smacking into one when she was dancing after her beam routine.
Mats are not for camera people to rest on, they're so gymnasts can
land. I didn't remember ABC being that close at the other event I was
at when they were televising.
Thanks much to Dennis, my partner in watching and ground
transportation. A big hi as well to John Courtney, who I got to meet
before but didn't get to share impressions with after - he had to
catch a plane.
Cara

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 11:39:13 CST
From: ***@scoter.cdev.com
Subject: Reese's Roundup

Wow, Cara, outstanding report! I can't add much to that. But a
question came to mind on the way back to the airport. Stormy said that
Dominique had signed a letter of intent to attend Stanford, but was
delaying enrollment for a year. My question is about the prize money
at the Reese's Cup. What the heck does that do to her NCAA
eligibility? I hope she figured out a way to stash her winnings.

It would have been nice to have a couple more USA men there. A
newspaper article about Trent Dimas said that he'd taken all of 1993
off from training/competing. I'd say it was noticable, but not
painfully obvious. As for Wecker's biceps, John Roethlisberger would
have given him some competition. Shoot, they could have had a wrist
wrestling match!

--John

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 08:45:40 PST
From: ***@sol.metaware.com
Subject: USA Gymnastics Color Catalog

I received the Color Catalog in the mail yesterday. Along with it came
a small catalog with books/tapes/posters, and two sheets worth of
videos available. I'd really call the "catalog's" pamphlets instead
because they are pretty small.

Anyway, does anybody have suggestions on which videos might be
interesting? I figure some of you may already have a few of these
videos. The descriptions are really short, so I really can't tell
which ones are good. Also, I thought maybe some of you would know
which are of good quality, which are poor. I'm interested in both mens
and womens.

Thanks in advance!

--Robin

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