gymn Digest                 Wed, 27 Apr 94       Volume 2 : Issue 116

Today's Topics:
                                 10's
                              ABC/Worlds
               GBR v ROM impressions (19th March 1994)
                       Kays thoughts on Worlds
                            Marinich & Pak
                             Marinich (Q)
                          Marinich/Xiao/Kim
                     Men's NCAA tidbits (2 msgs)
                            NCAA's on TV?
             NCAA women - event finals - complete scores
                           New Member Intro
                 Pak salto (A)/ Marinich (Q) (4 msgs)
                  Thoughts & observations at Worlds
              Thoughts  & observations at Worlds (LONG)
                         Tickets to Nationals
                       World comments (3 msgs)
                       Worlds comments (2 msgs)

This is a digest of the gymn@athena.mit.edu mailing list.

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 09:42:40 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: 10's

>1-Can't agree on Milo.  Her routine was head and shoulders above the others
>in 92.

Never said she wasn't better than everyone else.  Just said the
routine didn't deserve a 10.  It did have errors in it.  Kim Gwang-Suk
didn't deserve a 10 on bars in '91 either.  I don't care too much
about Kim's 10 b/c anything lower and she wouldn't have won (I don't
remember whether Milosovici needed a 10; if she did, then I don't much
mind it being given).  I *do* quibble with 1) the scores everyone else
got, which forced the 10's 2) the fact that the routines were all
worth 10 (Kim's was more like an 11), and 3) I question the concept of
a 10 ceiling at all (now, nobody grill me on this; I haven't worked it
out).

>2-Even worse than the bunching of 9.9-10 was the bunching from 9.7 to 9.85
or
>so.  About 80% of the competitors were in that bracket on each event!  Some
>of these sets should have been lucky to get a 9.2!

True.  I was thinking of women's event finals at Barcelona, where
there were 130-odd 9.9+'s given out of 192 total scores (6 judges x 4
events x 8 gymnasts per event)

Anecdote: the judge who taught my FIG course last summer was a judge
for bars finals in '91.  It was her first Worlds.  She had the same
problem with Kim GS getting a 10; she just couldn't do it, so she gave
her a 9.95, praying the whole time that everyone else would give her a
10 so the final score would be a 10 and Kim would win.  She spent the
rest of the meet avoiding the North Koreans.

-- gimnasta

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 17:08:41 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: ABC/Worlds

> We know that Shannon is the best in the world, but does that
>mean that none of the other gymnasts are worthy enough to be seen >on
American TV?

>>How do we know Shannon is the best in the world if we didn't get >>to see
anyone else (Kochetkova esp)?

Stunning Point Gimnasta!!!!!!!! Well worth being seen twice by
everyone...I just wanted to add that it's so great reading EVERYONE's
comments...see and you just thought I liked to hear myself think!

Susan

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 11:13:17 BST
From: ***@ic.ac.uk
Subject: GBR v ROM impressions (19th March 1994)

Mara wrote:

> Not too long at all. Really enjoyed hearing the details.  How did the British
> girls do?

I don't know! My friend Rachael got too excited about meeting the
Romanians that she hadn't mentioned the Brits one bit! Maybe she'll
say something about them next time she writes to me.

Sherwin

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 17:35:51 +1000
From: ***@education.canberra.edu.au
Subject: Kays thoughts on Worlds

Forgot to mention her favourite female gymnast was Lilia Podkopayeva,
who she said was absolutely stunning in all her routines (but did not
have the start value that others did)

Milosivici, Gogean and Hategan were all excellent and Romanian
gymnastics is in good hands with those three leading the way.  She
felt sorry for Milosivici, as she was the most consistent in the
qualifying rounds (making all 4 event finals - was she the only
one??).  But couldn't pull it off when it counted.

Lynda

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 09:43:10 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Marinich & Pak

A Marinich is the same trick as a "Xiao Ruizhi" and "Tkatchev front"
we were discussing a week or two ago.  I had heard there was some
confusion or controversy over who did it first; evidently that's true.
_IG_ refers to it as a Xiao Ruizhi.  I don't know what the Code says
(Bruce?).

A Pak salto is a layout flyaway from high to "clear support" on low.
I had thought it had to be to handstand, but that's because I looked
at the little picture instead of reading the text (a big mistake --
never do that).  I don't think Fontaine's would count (or at least I
wouldn't count it) because she's piked rather than laid out.

-- gimnasta

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 11:04:28 BST
From: ***@ic.ac.uk
Subject: Marinich (Q)

Rachele asked:

> Now, my question is, what is a Marinich (that Gogean tried at GER v
> ROM)?  Anyone?

The 'Marinich' on bars is... hmm, difficult to describe... if you see
Naida Hatagan's bars in Worlds 94 you'll see her doing it as well. If
you haven't seen that, then in Olympics 1992 Kim Gwang Suk (PRK) did a
Tkatchev/Marinich combination in her UB (or in 91 Worlds even). The
commentators here in England called it the Marinich (first performed
by Vitaly Marinich (UKR), who was still competing in Worlds 94, on the
Mens high bar). Gina did that combo too in Europeans 92 but struggled
a bit with it, now she's trying to redo that skill since the Code has
changed (must've been a 'E' move now), although she didn't do it in
Worlds 94 (She always play safe in the All-Around). It's a sort of
release and then regrasp with reverse grip on the same side of the
bar.

Sherwin

P.S. BTW, it is GBR v ROM, not GER... (minor point...)

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 09:51:58 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Marinich/Xiao/Kim

Forgot to add that in any case, the Marinich or Xiao is a Kim (or
"counter-Kim") in the women's Code.  Since we were talking about
(Romanian) girls doing it, maybe that's what we should call it. :)

:)
gimnasta

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 16:26:59 +1000
From: <***@pharm.med.upenn.edu>
Subject: Men's NCAA tidbits

Kip Simons won Nissen this year, so rack another one up for OSU.
 (Mike Rachanelli in 1991 - 1st in FX & AA)

OSU - wow, what a disappointment in the finals (team).  They put a lot
out, but just not enough.  Neb stuck every routine but 1, and that was
on vault I believe.  (Don't remember real well, didn't actually see
the meet yet, just scored it) I will be seeing it via Fred in a few
days.

Dave Frank (Temp) took a 2 tenths deduction step in finals and missed
All American, he had beaten Chris LaMorte in the Rings in Prelims..

Pujzlic (New Mexico) you can check on the spelling flew from Worlds to
NCAA to compete for Rusty, and just was exhausted after his FX he just
sat down at the edge of the floor for awhile.  The majority of the
people had no idea how this kid had made it to NCAA with such poor
work.  Kid hadn't had a real nights sleep in 2 days. Competed 2 huge
meets and was a little tired.

Bids for 1995 (possibly the last Men's NCAA if something doesn't start
to happen) There is talk of Francis Allen & Nebraska again. There is
also talk of Yoshi at Illinois to host the Nationals.  This may be the
last one if the lack of support continues.
 
Nebraska does a bang up job at putting on a meet - but the crowd is
starting to thin, *there as everywhere*.

Yoshi, and Ill would do a great job, they have Chic. to draw from.  I
know right now if they don't get a crowd and prove that Men's
gymnastics has worth to the college, international and general
community then the collegiate program will die.

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 21:08:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Men's NCAA tidbits

On Tue, 26 Apr 1994, Mayland wrote:
>
> Dave Frank (Temp) took a 2 tenths deduction step in finals and missed All
> American, he had beaten Chris LaMorte in the Rings in Prelims.. 

Dave Frank swings as well as Mogilny.  Great lines and power.  But
something makes me squirm when a guy dismounts with a double tuck in
finals...  The other double tuck that made me squirm was the kid from
stanford who did guczogy, guczogy, half turn, guczogy, double tuck.
This was definitely the most painful routine to watch (twice).

> Yoshi, and Ill would do a great job, they have Chic. to draw from.   I know
>  right now if they don't get a crowd and prove that Men's gymnastics has
> worth to the college, international and general community then the
> collegiate program will die. 
>

Yoshi and the U of I will put on a great meet if they decide to do
this.  Youre completely right about drawing the crowd from Chicago.
But I really think the best place for the meet would be in Chicago
itself.  Maybe UIC could host it.  CJ puts on a great show for Windy
City every year, and Chicago is an easy place to get to from every
part of the USA.

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 08:40:10 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: NCAA's on TV?

This seems not to have gotten through, so here it is again (sorry if
you get this twice) (there seems to be something wrong, since I didn't
get something else I sent yesterday and I had *no* mail this
morning!):

Does anyone know whether NCAA's (M or W) will be televised, and if so,
when, etc.?

-- Gimnasta

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 19:46:51 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: NCAA women - event finals - complete scores

gimnasta says:

>Milosovici's 10 was far from deserved; but more importantly, while the FIG
is
no longer handing out 10's, look at the number of scores between 9.9 and 10
last cycle.

1-Can't agree on Milo.  Her routine was head and shoulders above the
others in 92.  2-Even worse than the bunching of 9.9-10 was the
bunching from 9.7 to 9.85 or so.  About 80% of the competitors were in
that bracket on each event!  Some of these sets should have been lucky
to get a 9.2!

Mara

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 18:58:09 -0500
From: <***@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: New Member Intro
To: gymn@MIT.EDU

Hello out there to all my new friends.  I've been looking for
something like this for the past year, and just happen to have
stumbled apon in by accident.  I really look forward to participating
in this group!

Here's a little info about myself:
* My name is Robin
* I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
* I am 19 years old
* A am currently a Junior at the University of Minnesota, Institute of
Technology - working towards a BS in Aerospace Engineering and
Mechanics
* Along with being a student, I am the Assistant Director of Graphics
& Visualization at a software firm in St. Paul, MN
* I am not _in_ gymnastics myself, but I have followed the sport for
about the last 10 years (I went to a meet in 5th grade, and fell in
love with the sport)
* My favorite groups to watch are the women (o.k. I'll admit it. When
I was a kid, I had a crush on some of the gymnasts, so I've basically
kept with that age group).  However, since last year, I have been
introduced to the joys of college gymnastics (we here at the U of M
have _excellent_ men and womens teams!).
* My favorite gymnasts currently are: Shannon Miller (USA), Kerri
Strug (USA), Michelle Campi (USA), Tatiana Lisenko (Ukraine), John
Roethlisberger (USA, U. of Minnesota), Susan Castner (U. of
Minnesota), Soni Meduna (USA Jr. Natl.), and Tanya Maiers (USA Jr.
Natl.)  -----o.k., so I like to keep track of a lot of people...!  :P

Later!


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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 02:08:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject: Pak salto (A)/ Marinich (Q)

|     What is a Pak salto?

So what you're saying, Dave, is that we won't be blessed with an ascii
text representation of this skill?  <grin>

A Pak salto is, in general, a flyaway from high to low.  I believe
that in the Code it is described as having to be caught in a front
support (?-someone will fill in the correct info here, I'm sure), but
most in gym circles will (incorrectly) refer to a flyaway that goes
directly into a swing under the bar as a Pak salto also.

Actually, I am not sure if a tucked flyaway from high bar to low bar
is a Pak salto.  I don't seem to recall this terminology used for a
tucked.  However, when the flyaway is straddled or layout, it is
referred to as a Pak salto, I know.  Pak was a North Korean gymnast
who debuted this move at the 89 Worlds?  91?

Larissa Fontaine of American Academy does a sequence on bars of
Tkatchev, Gienger, straddled Pak to low (although she doesn't catch it
in front support, she just goes on swinging).  It's very popular!

Now, my question is, what is a Marinich (that Gogean tried at GER v
ROM)?  Anyone?

Rachele

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 09:27:02 -0400
From: <***@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Pak salto (A)/ Marinich (Q)

I understood the description of the Pak salto, except what is meant by
catching the low bar in front support???????

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 09:14:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject: Pak salto (A)/ Marinich (Q)

| I understood the description of the Pak salto, except what is meant by
| catching the low bar in front support???????
|

"Support" just means you are supporting yourself on your hands with
your hips right by the bar.  A front support therefore means that your
hands are in front of you, and a back support means that your hands
are behind.

An example of front support that people might be familiar with is
Milosovici on beam.  After her back dive to 1/4 turn, she always then
falls to a front support on beam. 

When a gymnast does a kip-cast-handstand, between the kip and the
cast, the gymnast passes through the front support position.

Hope this is helpful (and accurate),
Rachele

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 12:45:45 -0500 (EST)
From: <***@ecn.purdue.edu>
Subject: Pak salto (A)/ Marinich (Q)

> An example of front support that people might be familiar with is
> Milosovici on beam.  After her back dive to 1/4 turn, she always then
> falls to a front support on beam. 
  ^^^^^

Fall is definately the right description.  Milosovici wasn't always
exactly light and easy when changing from the handstand to the front
support.

Lori

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 16:55:19 BST
From: ***@ic.ac.uk
Subject: Thoughts & observations at Worlds

Lynda wrote:

> *  2 girls from Uzbekistan arrived in the country too late to compete.

It must've been Roza Galieva?
 
> *  The British guy who got tangled in the rings on his dismount had a
> massive haematoma (sp??) on the side of his face but continued with the
> other apparatus and did the best he's ever done on one of them.

Paul Bowler on vault, brave effort Paul!

> *  Nobody (read ditto officials Kay was with) wanted Miller to win.  She
> has no grace, poise, personality or style, doesn't look or have the aura of
> a world champ.  BUT boy is she one tough cookie.

Totally agreed!
 
> *  Everybody (read ditto above) wanted Dawes to beat Miller.  She looked so
> beautiful and would carry the world champ title better than Miller.  She
> has more style, grace than Miller.   (This could cause some good discussion
> on the net)

Not agree with this though. I thought Dawes was very slack especially
during tumbles (knees bent badly). I wouldn't call her graceful by any
means. Having said that, it was a shame she fell on vault AGAIN in AA.

> * Women:   Romania, Russians, US and Chinese will fight it out at Worlds,
> with probably Romania coming out on top just.

That's my prediction exactly.

> France picking up -
> the girl who broke her cheek bone on beam dismount (Elodie ......?) was
> outstanding.

Elodie Lussac, a very polished European Junior Champ. I have fears
that she might grow big very soon though (hope I'm wrong).

> Kay thinks the Australians will beat
> the Canadians and Brits at the Commonwealth Games. (sorry Clive).

I do think that too although I'm a Brit (nearly)

> *  Japanese Women have a Rusian coach.  French have a Chinese coach (who
> speaks good French).  Greece have a Romanian coach.  (Talk about multi
> cultural)

Australians also have a Chinese head coach (womens anyway). The
British head coach is a Romanian (last time I heard, I may be wrong)
 
Sherwin

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 17:29:30 +1000
From: ***@education.canberra.edu.au
Subject: Thoughts  & observations at Worlds (LONG)

Three people from Louise's gym were at worlds in an official capacity
and I spoke with one of them last night and got her impressions etc.
All 3 are female, single and all are qualified coaches.  Delwyn went
as a masseuse, Kay and Helen were assigned to equipment and went round
with different teams so they got a lot of insight to the whole
operation.

Kay's thoughts are not in any order but just as she could think of
things and as I asked her about different people etc.

Firstly, Kay said the mens bodies were great.  They all had lots of
photos taken with different gymnasts.

* 2 girls from Uzbekistan arrived in the country too late to compete.

* The Lithuanian mens coach and head of delegation were confined to
Sydney for a couple of days as they didn't have visas and all the
Russian gymnasts were stuck there too as they thought Brisbane was
part of Sydney.  (they managed to get the gymnasts onto a flight later
that day.

* Scherbo is very arrogant.  He would smack equipment round in
training, very lazy in training and would take a break for half an
hour and then go back .  He is an excellent competitor tho'.  Was
extremely excited to win the bronze as he thought he had blown it.
Out of the volunteer officials Kay hung round with, nobody wanted
Scherbo to win, but were really happy that he got bronze. He has to
live on $70 a month back home in Russia and is hoping to get more
sponsorship in America.  (An anonymous Australian gave him an envelope
containing $1000 - because he gets so much pleasure out of watching
Scherbo and knows what hardship Scherbo is under).  Delwyn got to
massage Scherbo 3 days in a row and he was happy to strip right off
for it but she was too modest and told him to leave the jocks on.  He
wanted her to massage him on other days too but he likes a really hard
massage and her hands were too sore.

* A spanish girl got a 2" split on her head on her beam mount, didnt
realise she'd split it until the blood started dripping down her face,
felt her head, saw the blood then started crying.

* An Argentinian girl did her cruciate knee on a dismount on beam.

* The British guy who got tangled in the rings on his dismount had a
massive haematoma (sp??) on the side of his face but continued with
the other apparatus and did the best he's ever done on one of them.

* Kay's pretty certain Melissanidis (Greece) is gay.  He wore cut off
(to bike pants length) panty hose to training sessions and lots of
people were making remarks about his sexuality.

* A Porto Rican broke both her arms on a release from bars - one
dislocated and then bone broke off and the other just broke but in the
identical same place.  (Rachele mentioned Ishii from Brazil dislocated
both elbows in one of her reports so don't know if its the same girl,
but if it was, they were broken).

* Lyssenko had a bad all round competition and she is really past it
now, but she has the grace, poise, personality and style and looks and
carries herself like a World Champion.

whereas

* Nobody (read ditto officials Kay was with) wanted Miller to win.
She has no grace, poise, personality or style, doesn't look or have
the aura of a world champ.  BUT boy is she one tough cookie.

* Nunno is extremely arrogant, very brash and doesn't stop talking to
Miller the whole time.  The only time she gets peace from him is when
she's actually on the podium ready to compete.  As soon as she
finishes he's talking to her again but at the same time is really nice
to her.  An excellent motivator.

* Everybody (read ditto above) wanted Dawes to beat Miller.  She
looked so beautiful and would carry the world champ title better than
Miller.  She has more style, grace than Miller.  (This could cause
some good discussion on the net) She was very nervous at vault (dejavu
maybe which turned out after all).  She told Delwyn (when Delwyn got
to massage her too) that she had been nervous at vault and had not
felt comfortable with it all week.

* Borden looked beautiful too, just a bit nicer than Fontaine who was
also great.

* Women: Romania, Russians, US and Chinese will fight it out at
Worlds, with probably Romania coming out on top just.

* Chinese women very strong on bars and beam, not so vault and floor.

* Other Womens Teams: Greece had 2 very good girls.  Spain were O.K.
Germany was good but inexperienced.  Japan average.  France picking up
- the girl who broke her cheek bone on beam dismount (Elodie ......?)
was outstanding.  Hungary and Bulgaria dont have much.  Canadian girls
were big, but OK.  England has picked up.  Kay thinks the Australians
will beat the Canadians and Brits at the Commonwealth Games. (sorry
Clive).

* Japanese Women have a Rusian coach.  French have a Chinese coach
(who speaks good French).  Greece have a Romanian coach.  (Talk about
multi cultural)

* Australians and Romanians are the only women gymnasts who looked
really skinny.  Kazakhstan girls have trouble keeping weight down
because of the food that is available in the their country (virtually
only meat, bread and potatoes ) can't get vegetables.  Kay said it was
good to see so many different body types in the women.

* Nigerian men were at their first Worlds, they vault and tumble great
but everything else they do is really scary (the tricks they try to
throw).

* Korobchinsky boycotted pommel presentation as he felt they didn't
pay him full value for his routine.

* Lots of wrong numbers (for type of vault) were put up by the
gymnasts.  Lyssenko was one so was a Russian female.

As I said these were all Kay's impressions and if there is anything
you want elaborated on or would like to know, email me and I will ask
her.



Lynda

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 01:45:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject: Tickets to Nationals
To: gymn@MIT.EDU (Gymnastics Mailing List)

| Does anyone know anything about how, when, where to purchase tickets for
| this year's Nationals?  Also, any ideas about when tickets for '96 Olympic
| Trials or Olympics go on sale?

USA Nat'ls Tickets go on sale for the general public on August 1st,
1994.  See digest Issue #104 of Volume 2 (date 4/14/94) for the USA G
press release on this topic.

Olympics and Trials tix won't go on sale until 1996.

Rachele

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 19:16:47 -0400 (edt)
From: <***@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: World comments
To: kgodfrey@bbn.com (Kathy Godfrey)

The high bar skill referred to in Kathy's post is a full twist catch
today valued at a B to forward swing and a C to support (where you
could do a free hip out of it).

                      Bruce

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 19:56:53 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: World comments

Clive said:

>Basically its a simple way of getting exposure all across Europe and
also if they get the oppurtunity to fill up the schedules then they do
which is why the coverage of events is so extensive.

Compared to what we get here (with the exception of 92 Triplecast) it
sounds good....no, GREAT, to me!

Mara

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 12:34:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: <***@gateway.us.sidwell.edu>
Subject: World comments


> >Re: Eurosport being good (and free):  Why is it that in the country
> >with arguably the best production skills in the world, a large
> >population, and all these broadcast networks and cable channels,
> >we get at best 25 minutes of women's AA action in a 90 minute show?
>
> I think it helps if the channel showing the sport has about 6205
> hours
> of empty schedules to fill up. Eurosport is a dedicated sports
> channel they show nothing else other than sport.

Yeah, but in the U.S. we still have dedicated sports channels such as
ESPN, which shows things like the baseball expansion draft.  Come on,
gymnastics is much more exciting than the baseball expansion draft,
even for laypeople (or "normal people," in the words of Kathy
Johnson)!

LIsa

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 18:45:22 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Worlds comments

Third attempt at sending this <sigh>:

Kathy writes:

>In the footage of men from the 1950's, they showed a guy on
high bar releasing the bar (at about chest level), doing a twist,
>and then regrasping.  Out of curiosity, does anyone know what
that skill's called and its current value?

Men, I don't know, but for women it's a Caslavska and, believe it or
not, a C (from front support on HB, cast, let go, full turn, regrasp,
end up hanging from HB).  There's a similar skill in which the full
turn comes out of a swing rather than a cast, and that's a B (no
name).  I actually had one of the latter in my routine back in 1984.

-- Gimnasta

PS Totally agree w/ TV coverage comments

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 15:58:03 PDT
From: <***@cisco.com>
Subject: Worlds comments
    >In the footage of men from the 1950's, they showed a guy on high bar
    releasing the bar (at about chest level), doing a twist, and then
    regrasping.  Out of curiosity, does anyone know what that skill's
    called and its current value?

    There's a similar skill in which the full turn comes out of a swing
    rather than a cast, and that's a B (no name).  I actually had one of
    the latter in my routine back in 1984.

We called it "release, full-twist, regrasp".  I think it was a B in
the early 80's.  I'm not sure whether it meets the current
release-move requirements, since the requirement is for a release
ABOVE the bar.

Chops

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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 12:52:35 -0500
From: <***@ecn.purdue.edu>

Some further comments on Worlds:

Why couldn't they show a tad more of the vault finals?  Miller was
doing this new vault that Nunno expected to be named for her, and
ABC couldn't even mention that Shannon was in finals but fell.
(maybe they did mention it, I don't remember)

Also, I was so excited when they showed Shannon stretching out and she
had something on besides a white leo.  Unfortunately, that shot must
have been taken on Vault/Bar finals day as we didn't get to see it.
Why do they insist upon wearing the white leos 90% of the time when
they have the cool purple and pink leos from Reebok ( and they red
ones at Worlds 91 and Olympics 92)?  Do judges prefer white leos or
something?

Shannon's tumbling on floor was a little better during finals and I
will credit her with tumbling out of the rudi instead of just stopping
(and connecting it well).  Hopefully she did 2 front passes just to
save her body for 96 and won't keep it for a long time.

BTW, is there any news on how Strug is doing?  Has she recovered from
her stomach muscle pull yet?  It seems Shannon healed pretty quickly
from hers.

Lori

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