gymn Digest Thu, 4 Aug 94 Volume 2 : Issue 161

Today's Topics:
Article in August _IG_ (4 msgs)
Chusovitina & much other stuff
Classic meet in Palm Springs (2 msgs)
CompuServe GIF's and JPEG's
GG: M, AA
GWG,Men's team (3 msgs)
Men's AA (3 msgs)
Rudi (3 msgs)
Rudi-Confused? (2 msgs)
Shannon
Shannon & vault (2 msgs)
The Digest
Ukranian team
USA Nationals & Strug

This is a digest of the gymn@athena.mit.edu mailing list.

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 09:36:56 +0800
From: ***@Eng.Sun.COM
Subject: Article in August _IG_

There's a very interesting article on mental training in this month's _IG_.
(Not that there's nothing else interesting there, but this one particularly
caught my eye.) It's written by a Dr. John Curtis of the University of
Wisconsin. In the article he describes steps an athlete should take to
build a strong mental foundation. It's very short and readable, written in
a nice style.

The curious thing about the article is that, although he never uses the words,
the program he describes is a perfect description of self-hypnosis and post-
hypnotic suggestion. Maybe he didn't mention these phrases so as not to
scare away the timid. But we on Gymn are of course oh-so knowledgeable and
sophisticated we can talk about these concepts freely ;^)

-George

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 94 20:36:32 EDT
From: ***@aluxpo.att.com
Subject: Article in August _IG_

I liked this article also - it was a good follow-up to last month's
issue.

I liked an article last month even better - on the Code of Ethics.
Unfortunately, I don't think there's anything that anyone can do about
it.

Toby

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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 23:18:55 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Article in August _IG_

>There's a very interesting article on mental training in this month's _IG_.
(Not that there's nothing else interesting there

I personally liked the picture of Billy.

Mara

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 94 23:37:13 EDT
From: <***@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Article in August _IG_

>
> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 23:18:55 EDT
> Subject: Re: Article in August _IG_
>
> >There's a very interesting article on mental training in this month's _IG_.
> (Not that there's nothing else interesting there
>
> I personally liked the picture of Billy.
>
> Mara
>
>Me too! I also liked his lists, especially the "hissy-fit" remark about Korby.
That was a very apt description! The men's AA ceremony was held up for about 10
minutes as the announcer frantically tried to get the top 8 finishers to gather
in the assembly area. He finally gave up and the ceremony went on. Abie
Grossfeld told me later that Igor was sulking because he thought he deserved
the gold. I wonder where he got the idea he was even in contention?
If you get out your magnifying glasses, you can see part of my arm in one
of the Ivankov shopping spree photos. I thought that was more funny than
interesting, though. And little Brynne gave me an "interpretation credit" in
her diary. She's a real cutie. Nemov was nasty to her, and all the other kids
on the IG tour, and everyone else in Australia..., which is why I don't care
for him too much as a person, but that's a topic for another post.

Beth

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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 23:17:48 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Chusovitina & much other stuff

>Chussy is a shadow of her former self on this event (well make that a really
*big* shadow) and finished way too high here ... which I guess is okay since
she was so often gypped on this piece earlier in her career.

What type of coaching does Chussy get in Uzbekistan? Do they have a program
at all?

>Speaking of Leo's. Reebok makes the leos for both the US and Russia and
Russia's warm-ups are far better then ours and until this recent crop Russia
has far far better leos then the US. Those black vevlvet ones are gorgeous.

I really liked the Russian team comp leo much better than the black one.
They all looked like skeletons at Worlds in the black. I didn't like the
diagonal Russian leos, though.

Btw, Shannon in EF - NO WHITE LEO!!!!!!!!! YEA!!!!!!!

Loved the complete and concise coverage of RSG

also

Is Jennie Thompson really injured, or is did Steve pull a Leonid Monday
night?

Mara

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 16:53:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: <***@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Classic meet in Palm Springs

Now that the Goodwill Games gymnastics is over (for me at least--no
cable), I wanted to see if I am the only one from the list going to
Palm Springs this weekend (assuming my '73 VW bus can handle the heat).
I don't know where most of you are, so I don't know how close it is,
but I'm not gonna miss this rare chance to see Elite gymnastics live
without traveling thousands of miles. (Why do the big meets avoid CA?) :(

-Patrick

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 19:18:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject: Classic meet in Palm Springs


| without traveling thousands of miles. (Why do the big meets avoid CA?) :(

Now, really. Did you forget about the 1984 Olympics, the biggest meet
the US has hosted thus far? Also, just from memory:

1991: US Olympic Festival, Los Angeles
1992: Hilton Superstars exhibition thingie, Los Angeles
1993: Hilton Challenge, Los Angeles, CA (and San Jose Spectacular)
1994: US Classic, Palm Springs
1995: American Classic, Oakland

Basically, in my opinion, no matter where you live, it always seems
like all the big meets are somewhere else... (unless you've been
living in Orlando, Baltimore, or Ohio for the past three years, the
latest "hot spots").

Rachele

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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 23:27:19 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: CompuServe GIF's and JPEG's

CompuServe has had 3 Miller pics, 1 Nemov, 1 Zaripova, and 1 Keswick from
Goodwill. They also had 3 Henrich pictures including 1 of her and her finance
that is fairly recent. She looks pretty awful ... esp. next to a similar shot
of her from her competition days.

Susan

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 18:16:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject: GG: M, AA

Scores from Reuters:

1. Alexei Nemov (Russia) 57.875
2. Alexei Voropayev (Russia) 56.775
3. Yevgeny Shabayev (Russia) 56.525
4. Grigory Misyutin (Ukraine) 56.500
5. Dun Van (China) 55.550
6. Chainey Umphrey (U.S.) 55.450
7. Scott Keswick (U.S.) 55.325
8. Sandro Nistor (Romania) 55.200
9. Andrei Kan (Belarus) 54.975
10. Paolo Bucci (Italy) 54.950
11. Vitaly Rudnitsky (Belarus) 54.850
12. Giovanni D'Innocenzio (Italy) 54.000
13. Cristian Leric (Romania) 53.850
14. Ivan Pavlovsky (Belarus) 53.050
15. Chunsin Yuan (China) 45.600

Notes from Reuters:

-After three rotations, Misutin had a .3 lead, but fell off of Pbars,
scoring only an 8.80.

-Nemov scored a 9.775 on Pbars. Shabayev scored only an 8.4 on that
event.

-Nemov scored a 9.65 on HB, his fifth event.

-direct quote from Reuters: "The excellence of the Russians was thrown
into sharp relief by Chinese Yuan Chunsin, who set one of lowest marks
in the history of men's international gymnastics with an astonishing
3.500 after a truly woeful routine on the horizontal bar.
Earlier in the evening, Yuan had set a record low for the
Goodwill Games tournament with a 7.600 on the parallel bars. Russia's
gymnastics chief Leonid Arkayev has already criticised the Chinese for
sending a weak team." [gymnastics "chief"?]

-Andrei Kan fell off of pommels, chalked up and remounted. He then
fell from high bar, ending up ninth.

-Keswick almost fell when dismounting from pommels.

Notes from UPI:

-Nemov's age is listed as 18. He scored over 9.6 on five of the six
apparatus.

-Misiutin, who is 23, scored over 9.5 on his first three events,
pommels, rings, and vault.

-Nemov scored a 9.7 on pommels. He also scored a 9.775 on pbars (his
best score of the night). He then scored a 9.65 on high bar and a
9.65 on floor - despite stepping out on his second pass.

-"A beaming Nemov immediately ran to coach Yevgeny Nikolko and planted
a celebratory kiss on his cheek."

Nemov: "I'm pleased I managed to improve my vault and my performance
on the rings today." (Tuesday: 9.35 SR, 9.2 VT; Wednesday: 9.40 SR,
9.7 VT)

-Keswick scored an 8.55 on pommels. He also got a 9.775 on rings and
9.5 on high bar.

Shurlock: "Our performance was good and bad... But I wouldn't say it
was our best effort by any means."

Individual event rankings from UPI (these are, however, neither the
preliminary qualifying scores nor the event finals, so they don't
really matter other than being random information.)

Floor
1. Aleksei Nemov, Russia, 9.650.
2. Aleksei Voropayev, Russia, 9.600.
2. Grigori Misyutin, Ukraine, 9.600.
4. Andrei Kan, Belarus, 9.550.
5. Vitali Rudnitsky, Belarus, 9.525.
6. Yevgeni Shabayev, Russia, 9.500.
7. Ivan Pavlovsky, Belarus, 9.400
8. Scott Keswick, Las Vegas, 9.250

Horse
1. Yevgeni Shabayev, Russia, 9.725.
2. Aleksei Nemov, Russia, 9.700.
2. Grigori Misyutin, Ukraine, 9.700.
4. Van Dun, China, 9.300.
5. Sandro Nistor, Romania, 9.100.
5. Aleksei Voropayev, Russia, 9.100.
7. Paolo Bucci, Italy, 9.000.
8. Djovanni D'Innochenco, Italy, 8.950.

Rings
1. Aleksei Voropayev, Russia, 9.800.
2. Scott Keswick, Las Vegas, 9.775.
3. Grigori Misyutin, Ukraine, 9.750.
4. Yevgeni Shabayev, Russia, 9.550.
5. Paolo Bucci, Italy, 9.500.
5. Chainey Umphrey, Albuquerque, 9.500.
7. Van Dun, China, 9.450.
8. Aleksei Nemov, Russia, 9.400.

Vault
1. Aleksei Nemov, Russia, 9.700.
2. Aleksei Voropayev, Russia, 9.675.
3. Yevgeni Shabayev, Russia, 9.650.
3. Grigori Misyutin, Ukraine, 9.650.
5. Cristian Leric, Romania, 9.500.
6. Sandro Nistor, Romania, 9.400.
7. Andrei Kan, Belarus, 9.300.
7. Van Dun, China, 9.300.

Parallel Bars
1. Aleksei Nemov, Russia, 9.775.
2. Aleksei Voropayev, Russia, 9.550.
3. Chainey Umphrey, Albuquerque, 9.500.
4. Andrei Kan, Belarus, 9.475.
5. Van Dun, China, 9.450.
6. Cristian Leric, Romania, 9.400.
7. Vitali Rudnitsky, Belarus, 9.375.
8. Djovanni D'Innochenco, Italy, 9.300.

High Bar
1. Yevgeni Shabayev, Russia, 9.700.
2. Aleksei Nemov, Russia, 9.650.
3. Sandro Nistor, Romania, 9.600.
4. Scott Keswick, Las Vegas, 9.500.
5. Chainey Umphrey, Albuquerque, 9.300.
6. Vitali Rudnitsky, Belarus, 9.200.
7. Ivan Pavlovsky, Belarus, 9.100.
8. Aleksei Voropayev, Russia, 9.050.

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 11:01:51 +1000
From: <***@pharm.med.upenn.edu>
Subject: GWG,Men's team

>Are all the P-bar routines looking alike or is it just me.healy.double
>back or double front.double pike dismount.Wasn't it *wise* for the new
>code not to award originality.I hope they bring it back after '96.I
>think it's wonderful that Chorkina basically ignores the code and
>throws some of the coolest tricks in the code.
- - from Billy

Misutin's P-bar routine - would you please tell me what the move(s) are to
me they look like a healy going into a giant. Is that correct? He does
three of them in a row (did you tape last nights team - I hope). I only
caught the routine of the corner of my eye, and the person I was talking to
- was not watching the gymnatics, so his expertise of were no help.

I appreciate anyone taking the time out to tell me the sequence in that routine.

Thanks
Mayland

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 14:28:16 +0800
From: ***@Eng.Sun.COM
Subject: GWG,Men's team

> Scott(*ESPECIALLY* Scott) S-U-C-K-E-D.I don't understand what the hell
> their problem is.Does anyone out there know or have any ideas? Can
> they EVER hit all their their routines?And this is just the first
> day!!!!!!!Yah,they recieved the Bronze medal but had this been Dortmond
> (and had the other teams sent their best)they would have finished
> WAAAYYYY back.I mean they were barely able to
> hold off the other b-teams for!And they were in the final round where
> the scores are higher!In Dortmond they'll be in the first round during
> compulsories so they might not even make the final six.They need to
> find out what their problem is,solve it,and spend a lot more time in
> the gym.We have the facilities and coaches,so I think maybe the
> problem is within the gymnasts themselves or maybe there is a struggle
> between the coaches.I honestly don't know,but if things don't change
> the US men's team is never going to challenge the top teams.

Well, I don't think that anyone on the international scene is suffering from
a lack of training and/or dedication. I'm sure "the problem" is that
gymnastics is really hard and the smallest mistake is the difference between
getting a medal and coming in 6th. There's no "quick fix" to that. There
are certainly things that the American men need to work on, consistency in
big meets for one. But that's not a matter of going in the gym one weekend
and "fixing" it. I doubt if either Scott or Chainey could possibly be more
dedicated to gymnastics than they already are.

Not to single anyone out, but once again the tone on Gymn has gotten a bit
on the hostile side. Not to say it's not alright to dog a gymnast when they
mess up, but there should be a certain level of respect. *Everybody* messes
up. Otherwise it wouldn't be gymnastics. The U.S. men's team aren't top
contenders right now, but they deserve as much respect as anyone else.

Yours in gymnastics,

-George

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 94 12:08:43 EDT
From: <***@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
Subject: GWG,Men's team

> > Scott(*ESPECIALLY* Scott) S-U-C-K-E-D.I don't understand what the hell
> > their problem is.Does anyone out there know or have any ideas? Can
> > they EVER hit all their their routines?And this is just the first
> > day!!!!!!!Yah,they recieved the Bronze medal but had this been Dortmond
> > (and had the other teams sent their best)they would have finished
> > WAAAYYYY back.I mean they were barely able to
> > hold off the other b-teams for!And they were in the final round where
> > the scores are higher!In Dortmond they'll be in the first round during
> > compulsories so they might not even make the final six.They need to
> > find out what their problem is,solve it,and spend a lot more time in
> > the gym.We have the facilities and coaches,so I think maybe the
> > problem is within the gymnasts themselves or maybe there is a struggle
> > between the coaches.I honestly don't know,but if things don't change
> > the US men's team is never going to challenge the top teams.
>
> Well, I don't think that anyone on the international scene is suffering from
> a lack of training and/or dedication. I'm sure "the problem" is that
> gymnastics is really hard and the smallest mistake is the difference between
> getting a medal and coming in 6th. There's no "quick fix" to that. There
> are certainly things that the American men need to work on, consistency in
> big meets for one. But that's not a matter of going in the gym one weekend
> and "fixing" it. I doubt if either Scott or Chainey could possibly be more
> dedicated to gymnastics than they already are.
>
> Not to single anyone out, but once again the tone on Gymn has gotten a bit
> on the hostile side. Not to say it's not alright to dog a gymnast when they
> mess up, but there should be a certain level of respect. *Everybody* messes
> up. Otherwise it wouldn't be gymnastics. The U.S. men's team aren't top
> contenders right now, but they deserve as much respect as anyone else.
>
> Yours in gymnastics,
>
> -George

I should have made myself a little more clear.I didn't mean that they
could go in one day and come out the next day a better gymnast.They
have to LOOK for the problem and work it out to the best of their
ability.I don't think that most of the US gymnasts are doing that.The
members of the US men's Goodwill Games were supposed to have a camp
and train together,but Scott and Chainey elected to stay in LA.I'm not
saying this was the ONLY cause that they didn't do well,but I'm sure
it contributed.Another problem with the men's peformance is
the struggle between the coaches which force the gymnasts to become
INDIVIDUALS instead of a team.I'm sure that most of the coaches come
out and say
they want what is best for the team,but when it comes right down to it
they want THEIR gymnast to get the prized anchor position at an
International competition.This (and other things) cause hard feelings
between the coaches AND gymnasts and they tend to seperate themselves
from the other members of the team.I think that maybe they should just
have one head coach (and possibly assistant) and the actual team work
out
together for a few weeks WITHOUT any of the other coaches
interfering.I think that was the secret of the legendary '84 team.They
were TEAM and nothing less.


Chainey would be a
much better gymnast if he cleaned up his form.He's bending his knees
on a simple stutz.His full twisting double layouts are sloppy.He's had
these faults for the longest time and yet they are just as bad as they
were 4-5 years ago.Any judges out there?Watch all of his routines and
add up all the form deductions.It's really not that hard to keep your
legs straight and together,or point your toes(Blaine are you
listening?)It has to be stressed and PRACTICED over and over.He isn't
taking the time to correct this.

I would really like to know what Scott's problem is.When he hits he
places in the top 10.He fell off on a pirouette on p-bars.A
pirouette???????Give me a break.He's average 4 falls during the major
competitions(worlds and olympics)The least was 2 and the most was 5.Am
I the only person who finds something wrong with that?If it was during
one competition I'd say "He just had a bad meet." but he's had 4
chances to redeem himself and failed each time.(with the exception of
'93 worlds,but he fell 5 times in prelims and finals)If he doesn't
change something before worlds I can guarantee you history will repeat
itself.

All I'm saying is that the US team has been doing something wrong for
the past several years.There have been a few bright spots,but they are
eclipsed by the poor peformances.

Billy

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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 17:59:10 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Men's AA

Don't know when this will postso I'll avoid lengthy results but Nemov won the
AA. Oh happy day! The last 18 year old to win Goodwill Gold was Vitali
Scherbo. Not a bad legacy eh?

Susan

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 94 0:10:35 EDT
From: <***@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Men's AA

Well I am majorly bummed. I wanted Misyutin to win SOOOO bad. Or at least
to medal. Shabayev is my favorite Russian, but I thought Misyutin was cleaner
overall and deserved the bronze. Just what is it with Grigory and these bizarre
falls from p-bars (remember Birmingham)? Well, I hope he doesn't get
discouraged and will be in Dortmund and Sabae. I also hope he cleans up in
event finals! :)
Really, I wish they could do the men's AA all over again. I'd like to see
the outcome if EVERYONE had hit - that would have been a real battle. But as it
was, Nemov definitely deserved the gold. His form is unquestionably gorgeous. I
just hope he doesn't become a self-absorbed snob like some of his predecessors.
As I referred to briefly in another post, he was downright rude to the fans in
Australia, even children. He absolutely refused to let anyone take his photo
outside the arena and would not sign autographs, while his teammates were more
than happy to do so. Shabayev and Voropayev were very gracious and seemed to
enjoy posing for photos, especially with the kids on the IG tour. But Nemov
just yelled at everyone. I'd never seen an athlete behave that way before
(except Shcherbo when he's in a bad mood). So he didn't exactly charm me with
his personality, though his gymnastics is stunning. Oh well, maybe this is just
another Goodwill Games thing. In the women's competition, the World Champion
always loses and someone whose last name begins with "K" wins, and it seems
that in the men's competition the guy with the biggest ego wins!
This is mainly for Susan's amusement, although I'm sure the Russians were
also amused. You know how the Russian announcer pronounced "Scott" as "Skote"?
Well, the word "skot" (which is pronounced "skote") means "cattle" or
"livestock" in Russian. I bet the Russians are wondering why anyone would name
their son after cows! Susan, I'm sure you can have some fun with this...
Speaking of Scott, he seemed to be wearing the shorts Voropayev was
supposed to have on, and vice versa (Aleksei's shorts looked a lot like
Chainey's).

Beth

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:11:34 +1000
From: <***@pharm.med.upenn.edu>
Subject: Men's AA

> Well I am majorly bummed. I wanted Misyutin to win SOOOO bad. Or at least
>to medal. Shabayev is my favorite Russian, but I thought Misyutin was cleaner
>overall and deserved the bronze. Just what is it with Grigory and these bizarre
>falls from p-bars (remember Birmingham)? Well, I hope he doesn't get
>discouraged and will be in Dortmund and Sabae.

You had better hope for more than just Misutin to clean up, but that there
is a team, since Dortmund is a team competition and they won't be letting
individuals in.

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 16:16 MST
From: <***@DEANS.HEALTH.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Rudi

A barani is a front with a half twist technically, but the appearance of the
twist is that it occurs early. The gymnast can usually see the ground
throughout a barani, and some of the twist occurs from the supporting
surface. A front with a half twist, done late, usually requires some kind of
large body position change such as a tuck-open or pike-open to twist the two
major segments of the body against each other. A late front with a half
twist is done free of support.
A rudi is a front with one and one half twists.
A randi is a front with two and one half twists.
A raymond is a front with three and one half twists.
I have never heard of a name for a front with four and one half twists.

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 16:34:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: <***@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Rudi

>
> A barani is a front with a half twist technically, but the appearance of the
> twist is that it occurs early. The gymnast can usually see the ground
> throughout a barani, and some of the twist occurs from the supporting
> surface A front with a half twist, done late, usually requires some kind of
> large body position change such as a tuck-open or pike-open to twist the two
> major segments of the body against each other. A late front with a half
> twist is done free of support.
> A rudi is a front with one and one half twists.
> A randi is a front with two and one half twists.
> A raymond is a front with three and one half twists.

Has this been done in gymnastics, or is it strictly a tramp trick?

> I have never heard of a name for a front with four and one half twists.
>
>

Is there a distiction between the types of Barani's a la Arabian vs.
Jonah? And can someone refresh my memory as to which of these is which?
I confused myself again. :}


-Patrick

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 94 20:16:17 EDT
From: ***@aluxpo.att.com
Subject: Rudi

Kristen Maloney - age 13, Parkettes - does a front handspring, Rudi,
back HS, HS to a full as her middle tumbling pass. She'll be competing
this week-end if you get there. I believe the Juniors are competing optionals
on Friday though I can't be sure.

Toby

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 14:11:03 -0400
From: <***@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Rudi-Confused?

AFter reading an article in IG I'm confused as to wether a front with a
full and a Rudi are the same moves.....can anyone explain....

Also where did the name Rudi come from??

Thanks

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 14:06:09 -0500 (EST)
From: <***@indiana.edu>
Subject: Rudi-Confused?

> AFter reading an article in IG I'm confused as to wether a front with a
> full and a Rudi are the same moves.....can anyone explain....
>
> Also where did the name Rudi come from??
>
> Thanks
>
>
I believe the rudi has an extra 1/2 twist to it. My daughter explained
it by saying it's sort of a barani with a full twist. (a barani has a
1/2 twist). She does a rudi on tramp, but hasn't landed one on floor
yet but she has done a front full.

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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 16:57:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: ***@ulibnet.mtsu.edu
Subject: Shannon


> We will air the Women's All-Around on Saturday from 8-9 eastern time (only 1
> hour, but . . . . .) Hopefully we'll get some Men's highlites in.
>
> Event finals air on Sunday from 7-8 pm. Imagine cramming all that in an
> hour!!!
>
> That's the hand we're dealt. That's what the marketplace dictates. But two
> hours in prime time is cool nevertheless.


> Regards,
>
> David
>

Hi David,

I'd like to get your input on the prime time issue. I have really
enjoyed watching prime time broadcasts of gymnastics and figure skating
in the past, but on occaision when I turn on the TV I discover that the
local affiliate has decided to bump the national feed for something truly
horrible. For this reason I break out into a sweat anytime that I see
that my favorite sports are scheduled to be broadcast in prime time. It
seems to me that the local affiliates are much less likely to bump
broadcasts of minor sports when they appear on Saturday or Sunday
afternoons. Fortunately, this year nationals is in Nashville so I can
attend in person and won't have to worry about this issue. But what
really works in convincing the local affiliate program director to air
the network feed? Also, why do you suppose the local affiliate program
director prefers to broadcast a fifteen year old Love Boat episode
instead of the American Cup. I haven't seen the American Cup on TV in
YEARS. I live in the Nashville market area, so I suppose out of pride
that they will run the prime time feed this year. Thanks.

Sharon Parente

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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 23:18:45 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Shannon & vault

>Note to Bart:
There was no '90 Jr. Europeans (not AA or EF anyway ... was >there a team?)

Additional note to Bart:

Shannon was *not* the vault silver medalist in 1993 (if you need this
verified, ask Piskun).

Mara

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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 94 14:45:49 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Shannon & vault

>> Shannon was *not* the vault silver medalist in 1993 (if you need this
> verified, ask Piskun).

>Didn't Piskun win the GOLD in 93? Milosovici won the silver!

My reference was to Piskun's *very* blunt, very public assessment of Steve
pulling Shannon from vault finals. I don't have the exact quote, but it ran
essentially:

Everyone knows she doesn't have a second vault and she didn't want to
embarrass herself

btw, this is when Shannon was still doing the tucked front

Mara

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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 1994 00:45:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: ***@delphi.com
Subject: The Digest

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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 94 01:00:01 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Ukranian team

In the New York Times today, there was an article on the EF's of the GG"s and
Podkopayeva's coach stated that the Ukranian team may not be able to compete
anymore in the future because the finances and training opportunities just
aren't there. I, and I know all of you, hope that this does not
happen.---Brian

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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 23:18:19 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: USA Nationals & Strug

>Miller will be challenged by 1992 Olympians Dominique Dawes (Silver Spring,
Md.) and Kerri Strug (Tucson, Ariz.).

Does this mean Kerri will be at Nationals no matter how she does at Classic
(although I would fully expect her to qualify - if not win)?

Mara

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