GYMN-L Digest - 30 Aug 1995 to 31 Aug 1995

There are 13 messages totalling 348 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. height and weight (2)
  2. addresses
  3. Gymn in Press?
  4. Need your Input
  5. response
  6. Visualization,dreams
  8. Fan Mail #2
  9. visualization, dreams
 10. GYMNASTICS!!!!!!
 11. cartwheels on beam
 12. More questions!


Date:    Wed, 30 Aug 1995 23:23:30 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: height and weight

>Imagine if you are a young
>girl and your height and weight is being broadcast on national
> That in itself is a tremendous pressure to be smaller and lighter.

This is why young girls have eating disorders.  There is absoluteley no
reason for height and weight being shown.  It just puts more pressure on
girls who want to become gymnasts.  Should thin people be the only ones doing


Date:    Wed, 30 Aug 1995 23:27:32 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: addresses

If anyone has addresses (e-mail or regular) for  relatively popular gymnasts,
could you send them to me?
                                           Thanks :)


Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:00:55 WET
From:    ***@VNET.ATEA.BE
Subject: Re: Gymn in Press?

Hi Gymners,

In Rachele's overview of Gymn-related articles, she happened to mention the
article I co-wrote.
> Salto (Belgium Gymnastics Federation) [mentioned in Erik's
> Gymnaestrada article last month]
Seeing it mentioned this way, I feel I have to correct some details.
First of all, I can't take all the credits for the article. The main story
(our club's Gymnaestrada participation) is written by Luc Schaltin, our
club's secretary. I just wrote a small part, emphasizing on the
Gymnaestrada being an meeting place for gymnastic-minded people from all
over the world. I explain how I got in contact with Helen from South
Africa, by means of our beloved Gymn-forum.
For a full explanation on how to join Gymn and on the other
internet-goodies for gymnasts (FTP, WWW, lots of pictures, etc.), the Salto
readers will have to wait for another 2 months (Salto is a bi-monthly
magazine), as I am still working on that one. BTW, since the deadline for
submitting articles was somewhere this week, our first article (the one in
that's Rachele's list) hasn't been printed yet. It will be in the
september edition (coming in about two weeks, I guess). The article I am
about to write should be ready for the november edition.
Another thing I need to clarify, is that Salto is *NOT* published by *THE*
Belgian Gymnastics Federation, but merely by one of the many federations
that do exist over here: the "Katholieke Vlaamse Turnfederatie" (KVT) or
"Catholic Flemish Gymnastic Federation". I'll write something more about
these different federations and about the general situation of Belgian
Gymnastics in a seperate mail.

Bye for now and ... Happy Gymnastics,



Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:59:00 -0500
From:    ***@TNTECH.EDU
Subject: Need your Input

Fellow subscribers:

I am sending this post on behalf of Lyn  (***
Evidently Lyn is having some trouble posting to the list from overseas and she
had asked me to pass along her message.  Evidently she is very interested in
our discussion of foreign gymnasts in the NCAA because her daughter will soon
be joining a team hear in the US.  She is concerned about how people (teammates
and the general public will react to her daughter as a "foreign" member of the
team.  She asks for any comments or views that you may have (pro or con).
Please e-mail directly to her.




Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:06:40 CST6CDT
From:    ***@SCS.TAMU.EDU
Subject: Re: height and weight

Reading all of these comments about height and weight brings to mind
my experience with a "weight problem" when I was 12 years old.  We
had just moved to a new city and went to check out the (only) gym in
town.  The coach would not allow _anyone_ on his competitive team
that was over 100lbs. regardless of height.  I was 5'2" and weighed
110lbs.   My parents said _NO WAY_ was I going to try to drop 10 lbs.
I was healthy as I was.  At the time, I was a Class II gymnast,
almost ready to move to ClassI.  He said I could be on his exhibition
team, but I wanted to compete and wanted nothing to do with him.
  The only other choice I had was to compete for my junior high
school.   Everyone had to do Class IV compulsories (I started
competing  those routines when I was 7).  We were allowed to do
optionals in high school, but, needless to say, I had lost several
years.   By the time I went back to that gym in high school for extra
 workout time, the coach had a change of heart  (sort of) about the
 weight thing.  As his best gymnasts got older, not a single one of
 them weighed under 100lbs. , and not one of them was even a little chubby.

Anyway, has anyone else heard of an absolute cutoff weight for
competing, without taking height and build into account? Or was I
just  "lucky" to find this wacko?!



Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:36:44 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: response

One contributor recently wrote:

> My parents said _NO WAY_ was I going to try to drop 10 lbs.
>I was healthy as I was.

Hooray!!!!  How great to hear that these parents got involved, and stood firm
on what was healthy and appropriate for their child!  I think this makes a
huge difference for the gymnast, who isn't necessarily old enough to
understand when a coach is out of line.  I'm only sorry you lost so many
years of gymnastics because of this "wacko," as you put it, which is just
what he was.


Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:02:55 CDT
From:    ***@PROCTR.CBA.UA.EDU
Subject: Visualization,dreams

I know this may sound weird and everything but I discovered something
the other night while I was in bed.  Well, sometimes at night, I
visualize doing a certain skill while trying to go to sleep, for fun.  I
usually think about bar skills.  Anyway, the other night I was
thinking about doing a free-hip full-piroutte, but I was laying on my
side, and I couldn't visualize it.  I mean I couldn't perform it in
my head.  I felt like I was tilted.  So, I turned over on my back and
had no problem.  Weird, huh! Try it.  Thought I would throw out
something different.  And, does anyone ever have tumbling dreams? I
love those.  I like doing front tumbling, and finally, a few weeks ago
I performed a double front(in my dream). Funny ain't it?!



Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 17:06:15 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM

HI everyone----

Robin & Jayce Phelps made Sports Illustraded's "Faces in the Crowd," for
winning the Jr & Senior Divisions from the US Classic. Other than that, the
article didn't say much else but their grades in school (Robin going into
8th, Jayce going into 10th) and that they were not related.

I also got a letter from Robin today saying that No, she's not related at all
to Jaycie, and she thinks it's "pretty cool" that she & Jaycie go to the same
gym. She said she thinks of Jaycie as a sister because they are good friends.

That's all 4 now.



Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 17:07:46 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Fan Mail #2

Hi again-----

I'm back. Since I recieved an overwhelming response to my previous post, I
thought I'd add another one with some more letters. Today we will feature
Jamie Dantzscher, Kerri Strug, and Doni Thompson.
(from Doni Thompson, typed with a laser printer, she sends the same letter to

Doni Thompson
USA Gymnastics

Dear Jessi,

Thank you for your letter. Here are some things about me that you might like
to know. I am 13 years old, and I started gymnastics when I was 7 and a half.
I am 4 foot 9 inches tall. My favorite event is floor exercise, and then
bars. My near future goals are to make it to Worlds and the 96 Oympics.

For now and the next couple of years I will be home schooling so that I can
be flexible for my gymnastics training and traveling. I am planning to me an
emergency room doctor like my dad. I think it would be exciting and ever get

I have two brothers and one sister, two dogs named Bear and Wolf, and deer
and skunks and racoons that visit our yard. They are lots of fun to watch.
Well that's everything there is to tell about me. Please send me a picture of
yourself, becuase I am collecting the pictures of everyone that writes to me.

(she signed her autograph with USA '96 underneath it, and wrote good luck in
gymnastics, too)

(from Jamie Dantzscher, on notebook paper with flowers that she drew around
the edge)

Dear Jessica,

Hi!!! This is Jamie. Thank you for your letter, I love getting mail!!! Now
I"ll answer all of your questions. I have been elite for 2 years, and I am 13
years old, also. Bars is my favorite event. I have an older sister Jennifer,
she's 16 an older brother Jeremy (14) then me (13), younger sister Joanne
(11), younger brother Johnny (9) then twin sisters named Jayline and Janelle
they're 7. My whole families innitials are JAD, even my mom and dad's. My
mom's name is Joyce, and my dad's is John. I think having a big family is
fun. I don't have a picture at the time, but I will be getting one soon, and
I definatley will send one to you. May I have a picture of you??? Do you have
any brothers and sisters?? What are your highest scores on every event???
Well, good luck in gymnastics, hope you do great.
Your friend,
Jamie Dantzscher

ps write back
(from Kerri Strug, handwritten on notebook paper, cool handwriting, with
picture of her signed in her olympic jacket)

Dear Jessica,

HI!!! Thanks for your nice supportive letter.

I switched to Colorado Aerials because I needed to have a consistand coaching
situation and because I wanted to be around other top level gymnasts. I'm
enjoying Colorado Aerials.

My favorite event is probably floor.

Good luck this season!!! I'm sure you'll do fine!!!!

Thanks again for your support!!!

Kerri Strug!!!!!

That's all 4 now....



Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 21:23:48 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: visualization, dreams

A fellow gymner said -
<I know this may sound weird and everything but I discovered something the
other night while I was in bed.  Well, somethimes at night, I visualize doing
a certain skill while trying to go to sleep, for fun. I usually think about
bar skills.>

Not weird at all, in my opinion!  I was told my a coach once that to prepare
for competition, I should visualize first the best routine I've every done in
my life, in whatever setting I performed it in, many times in a row, and then
after this, I should visualize myself doing the routine in the place in which
I would be competing.  I usually do this when I can't fall asleep in bed -
again, bars is the easiest to visualize (any ideas why?), and even if it
hasn't always made me do better in competitions (o.k., I'll admit bars is my
worst event), it does give me more confidence in workouts.  Has anyone else
heard about this method?  Any ideas on its effectiveness, or similar methods?


Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 18:55:25 -0700
From:    ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: GYMNASTICS!!!!!!


While I was working on my boring biology homework I was flipping
through the pages and I saw a picture of Kathy Johnson on the uneven
bars. Thay had some type of caption under it saying what her name is
and I think something about nerves and her being flexible enough to do
that move.
Also, last year I came across a picture of a male gymnast on rings
(possible Kurt Thomas?) in my math (actually pre-algebra) book and a
few story problems about gymnatics, I think having to do something with
Last year there were also some sentences that we had to correct or find
verbs in or something about Nadia Comaneci.
In our spelling book in 6th grade there was a picture of a gymnast and
a whole section of sentences having to do with gymnastics.
We just thought that maybe a few people out there cared. Bye!!!!!

Margi :)
Mardi ;)


Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 18:58:31 -0700
From:    ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: cartwheels on beam

Does anyone know how much a cartwheel is worth on the balance beam, one
handed? How about a one handed round off? has anyone ever done a
forearm cartwheel on the beam? Or a one handed round off? Also how much
is a front handspring or roundoff w/ a half twist or roundoff dismount
Thanks for your help! Bye!

Margi :)
Mardi ;)


Date:    Thu, 31 Aug 1995 19:01:43 -0700
From:    ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: More questions!

I have some more questions about hw much things are worth butthis time
on the floor exercise. How much would a front handspring be worth or
more than one in a row? How about 3 front walkovers in a row? How about
the gym-acro series- split jump, roundoff-double turn in the air? or a
split jump-cartwheel-hitch kick?
Just wondering! Thanks!

Margi :)
Mardi ;)


End of GYMN-L Digest - 30 Aug 1995 to 31 Aug 1995