GYMN-L Digest - 23 Sep 1995 to 24 Sep 1995

There are 6 messages totalling 262 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. ADMIN: Gymn Survey
  2. All Africa Games
  3. Famous GYM people
  4. IG Problem
  5. Rhythmic Worlds - AA (Individual and Groups) (Day Four)
  6. Rhythmic Worlds - EF (Individual and Groups) (Day Five)


Date:    Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:02:27 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: ADMIN: Gymn Survey

Gymn Survey

Should we incorporate "topics" into Gymn?  The listserv software that
Gymn uses allows us to create a limited number of sublists.  Members
can post to one of these lists by indicating the sublist in the
header.  Members can also set their subscription options on the
listserv, blocking messages for a certain sublist or subscribing to
only one sublist, etc.  Note that sublists are only effective for
those who get regular mail; digest subscribers would receive *all*
msgs archived in the digest.


Members have more control over the mail that they get.  If you aren't
interested in a certain sublist, then don't subscribe to that topic.
Topics can be useful for a list that gets a significant volume of mail
(like Gymn).

Gymners can identify others with the same interest.  Eg, if RSG folks
want to talk about specific RSG things, but don't want to bother all
of Gymn with such a specific question, then they can post to an "RSG"
sublist.  With the collegiate season coming up, those who have zero
interest in collegiat gymnastics (there are many!) can avoid that
whole blob of discussion by blocking msgs from a collegiate sublist.
Kids can trade fan mail letters on a kids sublist.


This fragments Gymn.  You might miss following a discussion that
interests you on a sublist to which you are not subscribed.

More administration.  Do we really want "How do I subscribe to that
topic?" and "How do I post to that topic?" messages sent to Gymn and
so forth? Using topics is pointless if Gymners find it too confusing
or they are not utilized properly.

More information:

To post to a certain topic, you merely write your subject as follows:

rsg: What are the requirements of a hoop exercise?
coaches: Does anyone have tips for conditioning?
col-w: I heard that over sixty women scored a ten this weekend?!!!

I don't remember the exact syntax at the moment, but to subscribe to a
topic you send something like this to the listserv

        set gymn-l topic all
        set gymn-l topic col-w

Mail that is not specified for a particular topic (which I would
expect to be most Gymn mail) would fall to the "Other" topic.
Everyone by default would be subscribed to Other.


As you can see, this is not a simple thing -- the question is,
therefore, do the advantages outweigh the disadvantages?  Or is it the
other way around?  Please send your opinions, observations, thoughts,
ideas, etc to (that's me).  DO NOT reply to me at
this address, or to Gymn.  George, Debbie, and I will evaluate the
responses and decide from there whether or not to try topics on a
experimental basis.

Also, please send any other opinions and suggestions for Gymn to the
*** address.

Please send all responses by the end of the month.



Date:    Sun, 17 Sep 1995 01:22:49 PDT
From:    ***@LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: All Africa Games

The All Africa Games *is* supposed be a friendly games. Unfortunately the
rivalry this year between South Africa and Egypt showed. Egypt started out
leading the gold medal count but as SA overtook they began to show bad
sportsmanship, complaining about scores and refusing to box against SA
because they said the whole team was HIV positive! It's just not cricket!!!

 Anyway here is some RSG info. When I went to the World Gymnaestrada two of
the South African RSg girls went too. (Andrea Schermoly and Cheryl Phillips)
Both are very friendly!Cheryl recently won the Junior African Championships,
and Andy is an extremely flexible young gymnast whose mom is former sprinbok
artistic gymnast Gigi Schermoly. (previously de Jong) Both definitely tops
gym-wise and personality-wise!

 Just my 2 cents,


Date:    Sun, 24 Sep 1995 16:23:23 -0600
Subject: Famous GYM people

Are there any "famous" gymnasts on thislist or coaches? It would be
nice to here what they have to say about our discussions about the
coachs, judges, and athletes that we often post. I'd love to
her Mary Lou's commenst more in depth about "LGIPB".

Other than that, my next question about judges is there demographic
composition.Do the judges who work at the BIG meets (OG, WC) come
from all the members of the FIG or is it just those judges with
gymnasts from their country competing? This is something which I
never knew. I know that there are lost fo judges from the
big powers in gymnastics, but what about the chances for a judge
from a lesser power, like Peru, working at the Olympics?



Date:    Sun, 24 Sep 1995 19:55:42 -0400
From:    ***@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU
Subject: IG Problem

I renewed my suscription to IG and they have cashed my check... but I am
no longer recieving my magazine.  The only address I have for them is in
California and I thought they moved to Oklahoma... Please someone help!
How do I get in tough with them to see what's wrong?


Date:    Sun, 24 Sep 1995 19:57:57 -0400
From:    ***@IC.AC.UK
Subject: Rhythmic Worlds - AA (Individual and Groups) (Day Four)

Rhythmic World Championships 1995

Vienna, Austria         19-24 September 1995

Day Four - AA Competition (part two)

Oh dear, my VCR stopped before the competition finished so
these "results" are to the best of my knowledge and many
of the scores are missing :(

Individual All-Around:

=1. Maria Petrova               (BUL)   39.800
=1. Ekaterina Serebrianskaya    (UKR)   39.800
=3. Larissa Lukianenko          (BLR)   39.700
=3. Jana Batyrchina             (RUS)   39.700
 5. Amina Zaripova              (RUS)
 6. Elena Vitrichenko           (UKR)
 7. Diana Popova                (BUL)
 8. Magdalena Brzeska           (GER)

Petrova *still* reigns supreme as a World champion although
she has to share the title this time with the unbeatable
Serebrianskaya. Both scored 9.950s on all four of their
apparatus. Lukianenko faded away after two 9.950s yesterday,
today she only scored 9.925 in her rope and 9.875 in her
ball routine. I can't see myself why today's marks were lower
for her though. She shared third place with Jana Batyrchina.

All the big names are up there (except Olga Gontar who didn't
compoete) and it was a very close competition since none
made a serious mistake in their routines.

I don't know about the minor placings unfortunately (because
of my VCR mishap)...

Groups All-Around:

 1. Bulgaria            (BUL)   39.575
 2. Spain               (ESP)   39.400
 3. Belarus             (BLR)   39.075
 4. Russia              (RUS)   38.750
=5. Germany             (GER)   38.600
=5. France              (FRA)   38.600
 7. Italy               (ITA)   38.550
 8. China               (CHN)   38.525

Bulgaria expectedly won the groups AA gold after Russia's
mishap yesterday. The Russians, however, did well today and
climbed from overnight's 13th place to finish 4th - not
enough for a medal though. The Germans were ecstatic with
their fifth place finish.

Even finals to come.



Date:    Sun, 24 Sep 1995 21:42:48 -0400
From:    ***@IC.AC.UK
Subject: Rhythmic Worlds - EF (Individual and Groups) (Day Five)

Rhythmic World Championships 1995

Vienna, Austria         19-24 September 1995

Day Five - Event Finals

DSF didn't show much today so I can only manage to find out who
the gold medal winners were. (I think the following are correct):


Rope:   1. Larissa Lukianenko           (BLR)   9.950
Clubs: =1. Maria Petrova                (BUL)   9.950
       =1. Amina Zaripova               (RUS)   9.950
Ball:  =1. Amina Zaripova               (RUS)   9.950
       =1. Jana Batyrchina              (RUS)   9.950
       =1. Ekaterina Serebrianskaya     (UKR)   9.950
Ribbon: 1. Elena Vitrichenko            (RUS)   9.950

All the big names had at least one apparatus gold for keeps
which just showed how close this whole world championships

Maria Petrova dropped her ribbon during a throw which left
her 9.400 in that particular exercise.

DSF did an interview with both Zaripova and Serebrianskaya.
Both ladies were very sweet and smiled a lot during the
interview. As usual I have no idea what they're talking
about (in German/Russian/Ukrainian).


Hoop:           1. Bulgaria             (BUL)   19.825
Ball/Ribbon:    1. Spain                (ESP)   19.800

That is all from Vienna, roll on Sabae!



End of GYMN-L Digest - 23 Sep 1995 to 24 Sep 1995