GYMN-L Digest - 20 Jun 1996 to 21 Jun 1996

There are 13 messages totalling 305 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Italian Nationals and '92 O.G.
  2. GYMN-L Digest - 18 Jun 1996 - Special issue
  3. Olympic Trials Tickets
  4. New stuff on USA Gymnastics Online
  5. Euro TV coverage of the Rhythmic Worlds 96
  6. WAG-U.S. jr. Champs 84/85
  8. Olympic Trial WebSite
  9. Moceanu, petitioning etc.
 10. Moceanu article in "Time"
 11. The Drinking Game (Was: Re: Nationals weighted scoring...)
 12. GYMN-L Digest - 19 Jun 1996 to 20 Jun 1996
 13. Appendicitis


Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:40:55 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Italian Nationals and '92 O.G.

<< The Individual AA final results consisted of compulsories and optionals.
  They finished:

 1. Galieva
 2. Amanar
 3. Boguinskaia
 4. Piskun
 5. Marinescu

 I wonder what Marinescu is thinking about Boguinskaia now?>>

Yeah, I never understood Marinescu's boasting about Atlanta -- I didn't even
think she'd make AA finals,since Amanar, Gogean, and Milo always seem to
place higher than she does (even if they shouldn't).  She's lucky Gogean is

<< And what's been
 happening with Khorkina lately?

Does anyone now why she placed so low in this meet?

Also, several people have written saying they dont want Moceanu to compete at
Atlanta with an injury because they dont want a repeat of  Zmeskal in 92.
 Hey, she may not have won any individual medals, but Zmeskal had the highest
optional total in the world in team competition, which certainly helped the
U.S. win the bronze.  I like Amanda Borden, but there's no way she -- or Kim
Kelly-- could have scored higher than Zmeskal at that meet.  John Tesh would
have you believe Barcelona was an "Olympic nightmare" for Zmeskal, but IMO it
was certainly worth it for her and the U.S. for her to compete, even with the
stress fracture.


Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:38:45 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 18 Jun 1996 - Special issue

If Vanessa Atler is on this list would she please E- mail me privately, she
is one of my favorites and I would like to get to know her/(you).
Thanks Sara


Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:45:52 +0000
From:    ***@LILLY.COM
Subject: Olympic Trials Tickets

I have a block of 4 series tickets left for the Olympic Trials in Boston next
week. The four seats are in Section 306, Row 9.  We are unable to attend due to
a family emergency.  The series ticket includes admission to each session, June
27-30, for both men's and women's compulsories and optionals.  These series
tickets sold for $40 each, with Ticketmaster padding the total with their fees
to over $50 apiece.  I will cover those costs and sell them for the face value
of $40 each.  I have also split some tickets out if you are interested in only
men's or women's events.

If you are interested please email to


I am sending these via overnight UPS, C.O.D.
I hope someone else can enjoy them since we can't!


Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:21:25 +0000
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: New stuff on USA Gymnastics Online

The pages for Olympic Trials are up.  It includes a press release with
details on both Miller's and Moceanu's petitions to Trials.  It also includes
the full selection procedures document. Also, the online contest for June
(only ten days left) is for a free Trials t-shirt.  If you visit the
"Competitive Rosters" page for Trials, you will find instructions for
sending good-luck email to any athlete at the Trials (yes even Moceanu and

Additionally, Membership information is available online -- all of this info
went into effect May 1st (or later, or is a preview of stuff to come).  One
of the new membership categories, "General Membership," caters to fans,
parents, etc -- and with a credit card, you can sign up for General
Membership online.

Soon, the Lockerroom store will be available.  You'll be able to buy videos
and other USAG merchandise online with your credit card.



Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:53:17 GMT
Subject: Euro TV coverage of the Rhythmic Worlds 96

The German channel DSF is broadcasting a lot of coverage from the 1996
World Rhythmic Gymnastics Championships in Budapest.  This may have
already been posted to the list......

Dates / Times are as follows:

All times are BST (add 1 hour for CET)

Friday 21st: 6.30pm - 8.15pm
Saturday 22nd: 4.00pm - 5.15pm and 5.45pm - 8.00pm
Sunday 23rd: 3.00pm - 6.00pm

Happy Viewing !!!!



Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:07:48 EST
Subject: WAG-U.S. jr. Champs 84/85

Can anyone tell me who the U.S. Jr. Champs were during the mid-1980s.
 Even the top three or so gymnasts would be helpful.  I don't have IG
going back that far.  Thanks in advance.



Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:20:06 -0600

I almost forgot about this one:

Drink if you hear any commentator say "take it away or give it away".
I hated those phrases and they popped up in AA and EFs galore.


It's a Dina thing.


Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:28:08 -0400
Subject: Olympic Trial WebSite

USA Gymnastics has a web site for the upcoming Olympic trials in Boston.
Looking over the site, it seemed pretty good.  The had pages on the
competitive schedule, roster and procedures.  Press releases pertaining to
athletes are also included.

Of interest to many would be the pages that outline the selecting process
and petitioning requirements and guidelines.

Check it out!



Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:34:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Moceanu, petitioning etc.

Just my opinion here.  As a fan, but more importantly a human being, I
believe usag should not allow Dom M. to compete in Atlanta.  All
alliances aside.  The girl collapsed trying her first dismount home.  She
has a 4 inch stress fracture.  She should not be allowed to jeopardize
her health and future.


Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:39:45 -0400
From:    ***@CORNELL.EDU
Subject: Moceanu article in "Time"

        Time magazine has an Olympics special issue out... and almost
predictably there's an issue on Moceanu in there.

        One blurb in the TV Viewer's Guide section (which does have a nice
table of when most events will be shown) does take the Taking A Chance With
The Favorite Award:  "For the women, Ukraine's world champion Lilia
Podkopayeva, Russia's Svetlana Khorkina and America's Dominique Moceanu will
try to outdo each other for the all-around gold."  (Scherbo gets their nod
as a "presence" in Atlanta.)  This is the perfect paragraph-long
summary...for those who don't know much other than that there's this thing
called the Olympics every four years.  It makes sense to have a quick blurb
like this for Joe Average, but if anything, it has been and always will be a
toss-up in AA.  Legitimate nods to Pods and Khorkina for their previous
performance, and the same could almost be said for Dom M (the article was
certainly written before news of the injuries), but it also falls into the
usual trap of grooming a favorite... few stories ever mention Dom Dawes, and
Miller isn't quite the press favorite of previous years.  So the blurb is
typical fluff.

        The Dominique article itself:  Plays up Dom M's normal
teenagerness--a LOT.  Emphasis, implied and explicit, on how she's fairly
typical.  Description of her room, some flattering words about her looks
(I've never heard her looks compared to Audrey Hepburn before) (but with the
usual stats), describes how she isn't afraid to speak her mind or do what
she wants.  The rest of the article tells the story of her parents and how
she got to Karolyi's, and mentions the downplaying that Bela's been doing.
It's fairly nice to all the people mentioned.

        I'm trying to remember the Zmeskal hype, but this article does seem
somewhat different, even though it is written by the same author (Jill
Smolowe) that did the Zmeskal article in '92.  Perhaps a bit more spin
control... there has definitely been more controversy this time around than
last.  It also doesn't really seem to hype her that much... it could easily
go a lot further.
        Still pondering...


Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:42:07 -0400
Subject: Re: The Drinking Game (Was: Re: Nationals weighted scoring...)

In addition, how about when tim dagget say  "and bam bang in a bucket on
the landing"

On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Ilene Dyller wrote:

> How about one sip anytime you hear Bart Conner say, "S/he nailed that
> dismount like a dart going into a dartboard."


Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:42:22 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 19 Jun 1996 to 20 Jun 1996

Does anyone know what the name of Lilia Podkopayeva's floor exercise music is
called. I just love her floor exercise it is so balletic and very interesting
to watch it is also very difficult.
Go Vanessa Atler!


Date:    Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:55:23 -0500
From:    ***@CARLETON.EDU
Subject: Appendicitis

Date:    Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:46:49 -0400
From:    ***@INETNOW.NET>=
Subject: A lot of stuff

First, of all, I am sorry to hear that Gina Gogean may miss the 1996
olypmics with appendicitis. I thought that was a minor ailment. Some
surgery, a few days of rest, and you were back to normal. I guess not. I
hope she recovers soon. The gymnastics competition would be slighty
diminished by the loss of such a good gymnast.

MY REPLY: You usually are okay fairly quickly I believe ... In the sense
that you can be up and about leading a fairly normail life.  I had a
friend who was fairly alright after her operation expect she couldn't do
PE for over a month ... including swimming for risk of ripping the
stiches I believe.  Some how I don't think gymnastics ... especially the
olympics would be doctor recommended.  So basically Gina will probably be
up and about fairly quickly, but up a flipping will take a lot longer.


End of GYMN-L Digest - 20 Jun 1996 to 21 Jun 1996