GYMN-L Digest - 17 Jul 1996 to 18 Jul 1996 - Special issue

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Topics in this special issue:

  1. GYMN-L Digest - 16 Jul 1996 to 17 Jul 1996 - Special issue
  2. how to get photos and videos
  3. US olympic compulsory order (women's)
  4. Article on Bican's injury
  5. Bican out.
  6. US team leotards
  7. Yet another request for CBC/SRC coverage; NY Times article on Romanians
  8. Web Sites
  9. Possible Tape Trade-WAG/MAG
 10. "to chack" (forward)
 11. olympics
 12. Mitch Gaylord (2)
 13. Men's Clothing Re: The Men
 14. Attention:  Television coverage trades!!!
 15. Sports Illustrated's "Prelude to the games"
 16. <No subject given>
 17. Gymnastics: The Art of Sport
 18. Chinese Gymnastics
 19. GYMN-L Digest - 17 Jul 1996 - Special issue
 20. Attention: Television coverage trades!!!
 21. copyright


Date:    Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:58:56 +0700
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 16 Jul 1996 to 17 Jul 1996 - Special issue

>Mayland posted earlier that Anamaria Bican has been injured and that she
will be
>replaced on the Romanian squad.  Does anyone out there know who else is on the
>team and, possibly, who will replace Bican?
I think Milosovici will. Last 4 years on Spain she appeared the second best
after Bontas. I am sure this young lady -I like her, especially after she
got 10 on matras- will be the best choice. Is there any opinion ?


Date:    Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:59:10 +0700
Subject: how to get photos and videos


I am a new member. Please be patient with my terrible english, because
everyday we use Bahasa Indonsia as our national and offcial language.

Eventhough I am not a gymnast, I like wathing gymnastic. Technically my
gymnastic knowledge is average, so apologize me if I am still being a
lurker. But I am sure after months I will advanced it.

Refer to this Olympic games, please inform me addresses which can be
accessed for gymnasts photos download.

One more else, please inform me the schedule for Atlanta's qymnastic events.
Jus for confirmation I have note.

Thank you and regards from Indonesia,


Date:    Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:54:51 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: US olympic compulsory order (women's)

According to an article in today's New York Times, Shannon Miller, Kerri
Strug, Dominique Dawes, Dominique Moceanu, and Jaycie Phelps will be
competing on all four events. The other two events will be split between
Amanda and Amy Chow.

I also read on a gymnastics board on AOL that Anna Marie Bican tore her ACL
while in Atlanta, and because of the time zone changes, Romania will only
have six gymnasts competing.

Yours in Gymnasics,


Date:    Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:37:56 -0500
Subject: Article on Bican's injury

There is an article on Bican's knee injury.  The article also
states that Gogean won't be competing which seems to go
against everything else we have been hearing.

Check out:

Atlanta Games also has a little story on Moceanu and
the hype...



Date:    Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:16:01 -0400
From:    ***@GRFN.ORG
Subject: Bican out.

I feel like crying. after watching her at both the oodwill games
and the American Cup last year, I really got to like her and
was cheering for her to make it to Atlanta. Talk about rotten luck.
Dominique Moceanu is al least competing.

Does anyone know which six gymnastics will be on the floor for
Atlanta, and which seven will be on the floor for China and Russia? Thanks...


Date:    Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:16:22 -0500
Subject: US team leotards

Do the gymnasts have any say in the leotards for
the Olympic competition?  Or are they handed
a set of leotards and get to pick which ones
to wear for podium training, comp., optionals,
etc?  Or is it totally dictated by someone else?

Saw a picture of Miller & Moceanu in the paper
this morning from podium training and the
leotards look like the 1984 leos except the
stars and stripes are on top rather than the botoom.

Just my opinion, but I prefer leos that incorporate
read, white, and blue, but don't look like
the athelete is wearing a flag.



Date:    Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:22:09 EDT
From:    ***@BBN.COM
Subject: Yet another request for CBC/SRC coverage; NY Times article on Romanians

Add me to the list of US supplicants offering to trade NBC's coverage
of gymnastics (w/ or w/out the fluff) for the Canadian CBC/SRC
coverage.  (I'd love to trade for Eurosport coverage, too, but I've
got no practical way to convert PAL/SECAM to NTSC, or vice versa :-(.)

There was an article about the Romanian women's team in today's
New York Times (7/17/96), complete with pictures.  They were described
as "slightly uneasy favorites."  Reasons cited:  Bican's injury,
which leaves them with a team of 6 (everyone's up on all events,
as coach Belu decided not to send for another athlete); Milosovici
recovering from a sprained ankle while Gogean is recovering from
her appendectomy (both of them also missed some training because
of their injuries--several days for Milo, and 12 days for Gogean);
the audience's rather extreme preference for the Americans; and a
"competent but hardly overwhelming" performance in yesterday's
compulsories in podium training (attended by 22,373).  Their advantages:
the split up of the Soviet Union, and the central training center in Deva.


Geza Pozsner (formerly of Romania, now choreographer to Americans,
as if you didn't know), who professes not be as impressed with
this Romanian team as with some earlier ones:
"Gogean as Milosovici are aging [as Miller, Dawes, and Strug are not?],
and their younger ones like Marinescu and Amanar, they didn't
accomplish what I think they were hoping they would accomplish."
[odd grammar in original; comment in brackets mine]

The Times had the grace to question the comment about "aging,"
noting that Gogean won 3 golds between Sabae and Puerto Rico,
and that Milo was 3rd in the AA at both Sabae and 1996 Euros.

Octavian Belu:
"Our girls will have to be very careful to not make any mistakes
and to stay healthy from now on."



Date:    Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:45:05 -0500
From:    ***@CARLETON.EDU
Subject: Web Sites

The Canadian Version of TV guide had a brief article called "Surfing as
an Olympic sport"  It's on olympic web sites.  Thought I would list them
here as I know at least one person ask for the web site for CBC.

Hope they are of help.  For those of you working during the games they
suggest visiting these sights to get your olympic fix.


Date:    Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:19:14 -0400
From:    ***@HICOM.NET
Subject: Re: Possible Tape Trade-WAG/MAG

Howdy GYMNers:

Those of you who have suggested that folks in different countries swap tapes
have a great idea going here!  It's good for gymnastics, and it's good for us
tunnel-visioned Americans to see that there is more to the Olympic Gymnastics
than the USA...a great international exchange opportunity, here.

That said, I am a school teacher, off all summer, and plan to be GLUED to the
VCR for the next week and a half/two weeks.  I intend to thoroughlly tape ALL
artistic gymnastics shown on NBC throughout the Olympics.  I also speak French
and Spanish and would *love* to have a copy of the WAGs in these languages.
Know that you will receive a super complete copy of NBC's US broadcast (I even
filter out as many commercials as possible!!!;)   ).  Any takers?

Au secours, svp, les francophones!  Ayudame, por favor, los hispanohablantes!

Merci mille fois, muchisima gracias...



Date:    Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:55:56 -0700
From:    ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject: "to chack" (forward)

Sandra L asked me to post the following on Gymn.  If you
can help her out, please reply to the address mentioned in the last
paragraph of her message.



=Forwarded Message=

Subject: "to chack"

A while ago I heard a rumor that the usage "to chack" has leaked over
into the gymnastics fan community from the figure skating world, where
the term originated.  (It refers to critical performances being left out
of the TV broadcast of an event, and honors Michael Chack, the bronze
medalist from the 1993 US Figure Skating Championships.  For more info,
check out my web page at

Can anyone here help me document uses of "chack" in a gymnastics
context?  Is the usage common enough that folks who don't also follow
figure skating know what it means?

Please cc replies to me (*** directly since I
don't subscribe to this mailing list.




Date:    Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:04:21 -0700
From:    ***@FLASH.NET
Subject: olympics

well, it's finally happened, my local newspaper has printed a 'merical
cure"  story about mouchenanu (horrible spelling, i know) how she was
cured after four weeks instead of the usual four months.
there was also a lovely picture of miller doing a v-sit on the beam. in
color that took up most of the front page of the paper.
i hope beyond hope that gymnastics isn't just fluff.
i am a woman,
i do not like fluff pieces.
what i would rather see is competion. lots of it, not interviews. and not
just americans and not just medalists. like the gymnast from morocco.
that is a story right there. yes, she might not