GYMN-L Digest - 15 Feb 1996 to 16 Feb 1996

There are 16 messages totalling 367 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Team Gymnastics to be cut as Olympic Sport? (2)
  2. Wolf jump...
  3. requested info. on a gymnast
  4. Gymnastics International
  5. Buckeye Classic
  6. International Gymnast
  7. USGF Email address
  8. World's Team
  9. <No subject given>
 10. kim  and fish
 11. Dallas Job Posting
 12. Fish, Pike, Wolf etc.....
 13. Cutting Team Gymnastics
 14. why didn't I know this?
 15. Learning to coach...


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:06:14 -0500
From:    ***@EAGLE.LHUP.EDU
Subject: Re: Team Gymnastics to be cut as Olympic Sport?

The reason the Olympic years were split was to be able to maintain the
high television rights.  When you drain the tv networks on alternate
years, you can get more money.  I call it a great business move.

As for the team gymnastics, I would like to hear the official reason
behind it.  It does seem crazy to me.


> This has to be the most arse-nine thing (you get the point) that the IOC
> has done since they voted to have the Olympics split into alternating
> years! Christ, it is team gymnastics which is one of the most exciting
> elements of the sport!
> Other opiions?


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:46:54 EST
From:    ***@MMC.MARYMT.EDU
Subject: Wolf jump...

Hey guys,
    Just to add my $0.02:  I am from Long Island and we always call
that jump (with one leg extended) a Wolf jump.  Most of the gyms that
are around me have the same name.  I've never heard of a puck or fish

nikki :]


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:50:27 -0500
Subject: requested info. on a gymnast

Several days ago, I posted on the forum asking for information on a
former elite gymnast by the name of Laura Szszepanski (wrong
spelling)...anyway, I was looking through some old International
Gymnasts and I found a little bit out.  In the March 1992 issue, there
was a section about a Buckeye Invitational in Ohio.  In the junior
didision, Laura was 9th in the all arround and it said she was from Great
Lakes...she was ahead of many of some of the top national competitors
today.  So, here's my question; is there anyone who could help me find
out more information about her?  She now competes here in Indiana through
the high school gymnastics program...of course she is the #1 gymnast in
the state.  Seeing that she's a senior, I am curious to find out if she
plans on competing in college and if so, which one.  Any help and
information is GREATLY appreciated.



Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:35:59 -0500
From:    ***@PRIS.BC.CA
Subject: Gymnastics International

>Could somebody please send me personally, or post some info about
subscriptions to GI magazine.  I can't find it anywhere, and am interested
in it.


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:11:45 GMT
From:    ***@UNANOV.UNA.EDU
Subject: Buckeye Classic

Aaron in his post about Laura ??? mentioned the Buckeye Classic.
This meet will be held this weekend (Friday, Saturday, and Sunday) in
Columbus, OH.  If you have never been and are close - by all means

You will see some of the top ELITE gymnasts in the states compete,
as well level 4-10.  The meet starts Friday and continues all weekend
with top elites competing Sunday afternoon.

I have attended this meet the last two years with my daughter's club
and thoroughly enjoyed the whole weekend.

A great meet to attend!!!!!



Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:18:41 -0500
From:    ***@ZEUS.TOWSON.EDU
Subject: Re: International Gymnast

        I agree 100%.  Having 10 issues has never made since to me.  If I
remember correctly, IG always said it had to do with cost.  I would pay a
little more
        Mikester Bee

On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, LeeAnn - wrote:

> I'd have to say my biggest complaint with IG lately is that they still only
> run 10 issues a year. The summer and spring sessions are becoming the most
> eventful ones, with the Olympics, Nationals, Olympic Trials, Europeans all in
> that time frame, but there are still only two issues during the summer. With
> the lag time from printing the issues and trying to cram all of these events
> into just a few issues, a lot is lost. I'd rather pay a few dollars more and
> get 12 issues a year. Sometimes were' hearing about the summer events months
> after they happen.
> LeeAnn


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:02:12 -0600
Subject: USGF Email address

Thanks to the generosity of a friend, I got a copy of the media
guide for USA gymnastics. Anyhow, the email address is listed in
here for USA Gymnastics. So, for those who wanted to know:


Oh, and according to the profile on Elizabeth Reid, she will be attending
ASU next year.


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:24:15 -0500
From:    ***@ZEUS.TOWSON.EDU
Subject: World's Team

        Barring last minute changes such as injuries, when will the
athletes that have not commited(Moceanu,Phelps,&Chow) have to decide.
It would make since to set a date so that an alternate will have a
better chance to prepare.  Just curious.

        Mikester Bee


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:03:20 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: <No subject given>

>Huh? why does puck makes sense?  Why does fish?  Maybe all my programming
>has rotted my logic, but I don't get it.
>> jump with one leg extended) a fish jump
>> at my gym, I have never heard it referred to as anything but a puck jump.
>> makes sense!  Fish jump kind of makes sense (a little bit).
>>                                                 Dawn :)

Puck makes sense b/c it's part pike jump and part tuck jump.  Fish jump kind
of makes sense if you look at it from the side.  (Or maybe not.  But puck
definetly makes sense.)
                                                 Dawn :)


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:42:58 -0500
From:    ***@SCRANTON.COM
Subject: kim  and fish

ok yes a pike jump with one leg  bent is a fish jump. i looked it up in
an old issue of usa gymnastics and they call it that.  i also called my
cousin who coaches   at capitol where gail kuchara trains and they call
it  a fish jump too!!!  i couldnt stand it any more about kim zmeskal  so
i called karoli's and asked. they said that she wasinjured(sorenessnessfor
a while and she was only practicing floor and beam (for and up and coming
pro meet) They said that she is now training full time now.  i asked why
she didnt compete at the classic and he went and asked marta and she said
that they felt she wasnt ready for the  comback.   I had to find out!!!!!
btw is anyone going to woodward this summer?


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:08:40 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Dallas Job Posting

Job open for a gymnastics director in a community recreational center in
Dallas.  If you are interested in more information on this position, email



Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:07:05 -0500
From:    ***@MOOSE.UVM.EDU
Subject: Fish, Pike, Wolf etc.....

What is the big deal over what it's called as long as everyone
understands what trick is being talked about.  It doesn't have to get
beaten to death, it's just a jump, not a crisis...


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:18:00 MST
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Re: Team Gymnastics to be cut as Olympic Sport?

I will bet my bottom dollar that the team event is not going to be cut as an
Olympic sport.  I am sure that the "telephone" game came into play here and
that in the retelling, the real message is no longer there.  Don't believe
everything you read, including (sometimes especially!) what you read here on

Perhaps, maybe, it's rhythmic group gymnastics that is being cut?


>> This has to be the most arse-nine thing (you get the point)


Date:    Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:15:21 -10
From:    ***@ALOHA.NET
Subject: Cutting Team Gymnastics

In her response to the topic of the "plan" by the IOC to cut the team
competition from the gymnastics olympic program Rachele Harless

"I am sure that the "telephone" game came into play here and that in
the retelling, the real message is no longer there.  Don't believe
everything you read, including (sometimes especially!) what you read
here on GYMN."

She then goes on to comment:

"Perhaps, maybe, it's rhythmic group gymnastics that is being cut?"

Talk about perpetuating rumors!  Um Hello!!!  The group event was
just added to the Olympic program this year.  How can the IOC be
cutting the event.  Besides with gymnastics being "sold out" for the
Atlanta games the IOC would be "out of their minds" if they decide to
drop team artistic gymnastics for the Sydney games.

My hope is that they add more events such as  apparatus
finals for RSG(both group and individuals), RSG team competition,
mixed pairs artistic gymnastics--what do you all think?


Date:    Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:27:45 -0500
Subject: why didn't I know this?

I'm coming out of lurkdom because I absolutley cannot believe that I
never knew that my coach's roommate is Phoebe Mills' sister! Jessi
doesn't look *that* much like Phoebe, so I suppose it makes sense that I
never noticed it, and anyway, at ISCC, Jessi's considered famous enough
so that it doesn't matter who her relatives are, but still, I feel so



Date:    Wed, 14 Feb 1996 21:20:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Learning to coach...

Wow- I was just about to post a similar question to gymn when I got Aaron
Walters' message.  I also am a college student.  I have never done
gymnastics, but I was very involved in dance in high school and have a
lot of choreography experience (especially in classical ballet).  If
anyone has any ideas of how I could learn more about choreographing
women's floor ex, please let me know.  I am in Princeton NJ and am quite
unfamiliar with the gymnastics scene of the area.  My school,
unfortunately, does not have a gymnastics team.


> I am extremely interested in becoming a girls gymnastics coach someday in
> the future.  I know a lot about gymnastics and I know what to look for,
> but I need to learn a lot more.  I was wondering if anyone knew what i
> could do to start "training" to be a coach.  I know I need to find a gym
> with good coaches that could teach me, but I don't know how to go about
> getting info.  There is a gym in my city, but I have been to nervous to
> ask if I could come in and "study" under the coaches (afraid of
> rejection).  I'm afraid that coaches may not have the time to "take me
> under their wing" to help me.  I am pretty good at helping out with
> routines and stuff, but I want more.   I have a license to judge girls
> gymnastics for high school in Indiana, but I haven't been able to
> practice and take part since I am a freshman in college at the moment.
> Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated.  I was a manger for my
> high school's team for 3 years and I continue to help them...Thanks in
> advance for any insight or information people can provide me with.
> Gymnastically Yours,
>         Aaron


End of GYMN-L Digest - 15 Feb 1996 to 16 Feb 1996