GYMN-L Digest - 15 Aug 1995 to 16 Aug 1995

There are 12 messages totalling 371 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Quick note from New Orleans
  2. Mo Huilan
  3. movies (2)
  4. Competition Standings
  5. Re[2]: movies
  6. Men's Team '96 Comps (USA Nat'ls)
  7. Movies
  8. College Bound?
  9. Shannon College-bound
 10. Movies and TV Guide
 11. Jr. Women's Optional 1

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Date:    Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:31:16 -0400
From:    ***@GATEWAY.US.SIDWELL.EDU
Subject: Quick note from New Orleans

Well, right now I'm in a hotel just a little ways away from the
SuperDome, where Nationals are being held this year.  We had to go over
today to get our tickets, which gave us a good opportunity to look
around.  The SuperDome is *huge*; the person we got the tickets from said
that it seated 69,000-71,000, depending on the configuration.  Needless
to say, they will *not* be using the whole SuperDome for gymnastics.
About half of it is the actual competition gym.  Then there's a smaller
practice gym, set aside from the competition gym by a curtain, and beyond
the practice gym is Astroturf -- the Saints have a game at the SuperDome
on Sunday, and kickoff time is 12 noon!

I got to see a few gymnasts working out briefly -- Dominique Dawes (from a
distance), Amanda Borden, Dominique Moceanu.  Lots of new faces, also.

Does anyone else find the scheduling for this year just a little on the
creative side?  In past years they've always combined senior and junior men,
which is a good thing because 1) there are usually about 10 junior menu and
2) there usually aren't many spectators for the men (it's usually my, my
mother, and the gymnasts' parents ;).  And if you're talking about filling
a stadium the size of the SuperDome, even just half of it...it's just not
happening with junior men, unless there's some major demographic switch
this year.  Also, what's the "Junior Women's Optionals I" and "Junior
Women's Optionals II?"  Is that because compulsories are being eliminated
after 1996?  How will that work? (will they do vault & bars one day, then
beam & floor the next, or will they compete full optionals twice?)

Well, better get to bed.  Sr. Men's compulsories at 10 AM tomorrow!


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Date:    Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:41:25 -0700
From:    ***@FREENET.VANCOUVER.BC.CA
Subject: Re: Mo Huilan

Mo Huilan has a twin sister name Mo Fang, she is a gymnast also but she
is not on the national team.  There is a profile of Mo in the Gym Star
summer 1995 issue (issue #12).

Henry

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Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:15:14 CST
From:    ***@CCLINK.NET.UOKHSC.EDU
Subject: Re: movies

     Martie,

     There is a movie, I think it's called Gym-kata (I haven't seen it)
     that has karate and gymnastics, I don't know which gymnast is in it
     but I seem to remember it might be Thomas.

     Another movie is American Anthem, it's with the good looking USA guy
     from the 88 Olympics (You can see I'm terrible with names), this movie
     was not really good but it had lots of gymnastic tricks.

     By the way, the newest one, Congo. One of the gorillas is David St.
     Pierre, who is also trying a come back at gymnastics and just
     qualified for nationals.

     I'm sure there are many other with good gymnasts that are not about
     gymnastics as such. Those are three I thought off when you asked.

     Ligia


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Subject: movies
Author:  ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Date:    8/14/95 11:53 PM


Does anyone know any good movies with gymnasts on them. I knw Troop
Beverly Hills has a gymnsat on it. She has her own beam and I saw a
poster from IG on her wall. :) It wasn;t totally about gymnastics but I
thought it was cool. Also the War of the Roses had a character who was
a gymnast but it wasn't really important. There is also a Dosney movie
called "Lefty" about a one armed gymnat. I haven't seem it yet though.
Thanks. :)

Margi :)

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Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:15:16 CST
From:    ***@CCLINK.NET.UOKHSC.EDU
Subject: Re: Competition Standings

     I think that, at least the coaches, know where they are in
     competition. If they have access to the computer screen, they can tell
     very fast how things are going.

     When my son was competing, if we have a boy that had good competition
     for the gold, parents and coaches kept an eye for the scores of both
     boys and we knew how much our boy needed to win. In the same token,
     when my son won regional championships, some of the event gold medals
     did not surprise his coach, but he was very excited and surprised to
     see my son win the AA. Of course we didn't even know my son's
     competition since our region is so big.

     I guess when you get to elite levels and you have only one competing
     class on the floor, it is easy to keep track, and I'm sure the coaches
     and parents know.


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Subject: Competition Standings
Author:  ***@EFN.ORG
Date:    8/15/95 1:03 PM


Hello Gymners!

     In preparation for the National Championships, I of course had to
watch last years competition.  (I am relieved to know that I am not
the only person who records every meet shown on TV!)  This lead to me
watching the 92' games and the last three Worlds as well.
     The question I have been dying to ask is this: do the gymnasts know
what their standings are while they are competing?  Do they know what
score they need to win?
     After the all-around in Barcelona, Shannon tells NBC that she
didn't even know what place she was in, but I distinctly got the
impression from the look on her face that she knew she'd lost the
gold.  In Sydney in '94, she also says that she didn't know what place
she was in, but she and Steve were clearing celebrating as if
victorious.  Most importantly, at last year's Nationals, did Shannon
know that Dom was uncatchable before she vaulted?
     Hopefully those of you have attended meets would know if
there is some type of running scoreboard, or if the coaches seem to
be keeping track of the scoring in some way.  Also, I'd like to just
hear everyone's opinion of this.
     Thank you,
     Katie
I

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Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:43:00 -0400
From:    ***@CCMAIL.ORL.MMC.COM
Subject: Re[2]: movies

And don't forget "Spitfire" which was a topic of conversation on this list a few
months ago (and also stars two of Brown's Russian coaches as ... Evil Russian
Coaches!)

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Subject: Re: movies
Author:  ***@cclink.net.uokhsc.edu
Date:    8/16/95 10:15 AM


     Martie,

     There is a movie, I think it's called Gym-kata (I haven't seen it)
     that has karate and gymnastics, I don't know which gymnast is in it
     but I seem to remember it might be Thomas.

     Another movie is American Anthem, it's with the good looking USA guy
     from the 88 Olympics (You can see I'm terrible with names), this movie
     was not really good but it had lots of gymnastic tricks.

     By the way, the newest one, Congo. One of the gorillas is David St.
     Pierre, who is also trying a come back at gymnastics and just
     qualified for nationals.

     I'm sure there are many other with good gymnasts that are not about
     gymnastics as such. Those are three I thought off when you asked.

     Ligia


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Subject: movies
Author:  ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Date:    8/14/95 11:53 PM


Does anyone know any good movies with gymnasts on them. I knw Troop
Beverly Hills has a gymnsat on it. She has her own beam and I saw a
poster from IG on her wall. :) It wasn;t totally about gymnastics but I
thought it was cool. Also the War of the Roses had a character who was
a gymnast but it wasn't really important. There is also a Dosney movie
called "Lefty" about a one armed gymnat. I haven't seem it yet though.
Thanks. :)

Margi :)

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Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:58:12 -0400
From:    ***@IVT.NEXUSPRIME.ORG
Subject: Re: movies

>      There is a movie, I think it's called Gym-kata (I haven't seen it)
>      that has karate and gymnastics, I don't know which gymnast is in it
>      but I seem to remember it might be Thomas.

        Kurt Thomas.  Don't waste your time seeing it.  Though it was
funny when the pommels magically appeared on a rock. :)

>
>      Another movie is American Anthem, it's with the good looking USA guy
>      from the 88 Olympics (You can see I'm terrible with names), this movie
>      was not really good but it had lots of gymnastic tricks.

        Mitch Gaylord.  Acting is not his strong point.

Laura :)

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Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:19:28 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Men's Team '96 Comps (USA Nat'ls)

1995 U.S. Championships
Superdome, New Orleans, LA

Men's Gymnastics, Team '96 Compulsories
16 August 1995, Wednesday

1. John Roethlisberger (Minnesota), 68.280
2. Mihai Bagiu (Gold Cup), 67.020
3. Jair Lynch (Stanford), 66.720
4. Kip Simons (Ohio State), 66.180
5. Blaine Wilson (Ohio State), 65.940
6. John Macready (OTC), 65.340
7. Steve McCain (UCLA), 65.160
7. Mark Booth (Stanford), 65.160
9. Rob Kieffer (Gold Cup), 65.040
10. Brian Yee (Minnesota), 65.040
11. Jarrod Hanks (Oklahoma), 64.980
12. Josh Stein (Stanford), 64.920
13. Chainey Umphrey (UCLA), 64.440
13. Casey Bryan (Oklahoma), 64.440
15. Mike Moran (Daggett's), 64.320
16. Mike Racanelli (Bart Conner's), 64.080
17. Jay Thornton (Iowa), 63.780
18. David St. Pierre (Broadway), 63.540
18. Mike Williams (Gold Cup), 63.540
20. Lou Datilio (OTC), 63.060
21. Brent Klaus (International), 62.640
21. Jeff Lavallee (Daggett's), 62.640
23. Jamie Ellis (Stanford), 62.400
24. Jason Christie (Nebraska), 62.220
25. Kyle Asano (Stanford), 62.160
26. Mike Morgan (Queen City), 62.100
27. Keith Wiley (Stanford), 61.860
28. Jim Foody (UCLA), 61.740
29. Mark Oliver (Washington), 61.260
30. Rick Kieffer (Gold Cup), 61.200
31. Chris Young (Carolina Twisters), 61.080
32. Chris Waller (UCLA), 53.520
33. Mark Sohn (Unattached), 11.040

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Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:16:27 -24000
From:    ***@USAID.GOV
Subject: Movies

There was also a television movie which covered Nadia's life up to the 1979
Worlds.  Compared to Gymkata, Amercan Anthem, et al, it was not bad.  Nadia
herself has commented that there were some inaccuracies, and that the woman
who protrayed her as a teen was somewhat larger than she had been in 1976,
but the facts in general are pretty much there, and the acting overall is
adequete.  You actually get to see some real gymnastics, as well (I believe
Marcia Frederick did some of the stuntwork).

BTW, if any of you out there were fans of "My So-Called Life", you may be
interested to know that the young girl who played the lead character's little
sister is a gymnast.  I think her name is Lisa Whilhotte (sp?), and she got
her start in acting doing stunt work for "Hook".

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Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:50:23 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: College Bound?

Where will Shannon Miller attend college after 1996?  I know she's not NCAA
eligible, but was just wondering if anyone knew where she was headed.  I had
heard she liked Stanford, but I don't know if she was accepted or not.

-Emily

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Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:29:21 CDT
From:    ***@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Subject: Shannon College-bound

I don't know if she is college-bound, I am pretty certain she is. Her father
is supposed to be a physics teacher(college). Since she won a National High
Athletic and Academic Achievement Award, I assume she is smart and could do
well in a place like Stanford. IMO, the NCAA is foolish not to let someone of
her caliber compete. Imagine what attendance at College gymnastic meets would
be like, that is if Miller wanted to continue her career. BLM Or could continue
without all of the Rule nonsense regarding professionalism.

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Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:03:17 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Movies and TV Guide

Of course, anyone who has seen "Spitfire" starring Kristie Phillips can
forget that great bar dismount.

When looking at the TV Guide schedules for Nationals, it said that the EF
will be on Saturday and the AA will be on Sunday.  I'm pretty sure they
should be switched around.  Does anyone know?

Anne

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Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:44:22 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Jr. Women's Optional 1

1995 U.S. Championships
Superdome, New Orleans, LA

Women's Gymnastics, Junior Optionals I
16 August 1995, Wednesday

1. Mina Kim (Dynamo), 38.150
2. Kaitie Dyson (Cypress), 37.725
2. Kristen Stucky (Salto Gymnastics), 37.725
4. Robin Phelps (Cincinatti), 37.575
5. Vanessa Atler (Gliders), 37.525
6. Alexis Brion (Gymstrada), 37.325
7. Jennifer Carow (Salto Gymnastics), 37.300
8. Jamie Dantzscher (Gliders), 37.250
9. Jeanette Antolin (Scats), 37.175
10. Breanne Rutherford (NEGE), 37.150
11. Kinsey Rowe (Cypress), 37.075
12. Rebecca Whitehurst (Cypress), 37.000
13. Melinda Baimbridge (Cypress), 36.850
14. Becky Meldrum (Parkettes), 36.750
15. Kelly Parkinson (Cypress), 36.475
16. Kristin Jenson (Parkettes), 36.350
17. Coreen Murphy (Desert Devils), 36.300
18. Katie McFarland (Gymstrada), 36.025
19. Onnie Willis (Puget Sound), 35.975
20. Alexa Martinez (Capital), 35.750
21. Anna Gingrich (Capital), 35.700
22. Jeana Rice (Brown's), 35.675
22. Katie Taylor (Kentwood), 35.675
24. Audra Steinbrook (Krafft Academy), 35.150
25. Nekia Demery (Krafft), 34.975
26. Nicole Kilpatrick (North Stars), 34.925
27. Lindsay Wing (Gymnastics World), 34.650
28. Nicole Bongiovanni (CATS), 34.425
29. Jane McIntosh (Great Lakes Gymnastics), 34.300
30. Ashley Lamb (Capital City), 34.075
31. Lindsey Baker (West Valley Gymnastics), 26.225

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