GYMN-L Digest - 12 Apr 1996 to 13 Apr 1996

There are 10 messages totalling 180 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. WOW
  2. WWW article on Cal's Trent Wells
  3. GYMN-L Digest - 11 Apr 1996 to 12 Apr 1996
  4. Wanted Olympic Tickets!
  5. Winfrey
  6. Oprah Show
  7. GYMN-L Digest - 7 Apr 1996 to 8 Apr 1996
  8. adult gymnastics classes
  9. Full Out Twisting
 10. MAG/WAG: San Juan Worlds


Date:    Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:53:28 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: WOW

In a message dated 96-04-12 06:04:22 EDT, you write:

>I have heard that he has another new dismount in high bar, a tripple
>with full twist and it is not a Belle. He is doing the first somi
>straight, the secound straigt with full twist and the third tucked!!

That is amazing!!!  I hope the guy makes it to the olympics!!!  To bad he's
not an American.



Date:    Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:53:29 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: WWW article on Cal's Trent Wells

Is this some kind of move like a Manna (a V-type position where your legs are
pushed up to a horizonal position?)?



Date:    Fri, 12 Apr 1996 08:17:58 +0200
From:    ***@MERCUR.USAO.EDU
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 11 Apr 1996 to 12 Apr 1996

I thought when the comentators at the american cup where talking about
chousonova's routine, they where meaning, she was capable of so much
more, and perhaps where dumbing down the routines. I am very glad that
older woman are now taking part in gymnastics. Yes, younger girls do have
a place, but for the sport in general, I think that the older girls are
giving gymnastics a good name, they have an artistic ability that only
experence can give a person. Keri shrug seems to be rising to her
potential, even though she's considered 'old' perhaps she's like kathy
johnson, who didn't rise to her own until she was about twenty.
I've seen several gymnasts from other countries compete in the ncaa's.
Does anyone know if they've retired from international competion? I
watched the big 10 (I don't know what the tital for the ncaa regon that
georga and bama are in) on television, and noticed several competors from
Canada. I had thought that kim kelly had retired after what happened at
92, but it's good to see her at ncaa level. I'm glad that she didn't give
up the sport entirely. Though I think the scores are horribly inflated in
the NCAA's. What scoring level do they use? level 8 or 9? I saw one
rutine that had a major break and a huge step at the end and got a 9.85.
Does anyone know if there will be prelims at this next weeks worlds?


Date:    Fri, 12 Apr 1996 08:26:16 -0700
Subject: Wanted Olympic Tickets!

Desperately seeking two tickets for all Rhythmic Gymnastics events in
Athens GA Aug 1 - 4.

Does anyone have any ideas as to how we can get them?  We did all the
"normal" avenues -- the Olympic lottery and were finally sent our $ back 2
months later.  My daughter and I, both professional members of USAG
Rhythmics have even volunteered to help and still nothing yet.  She is a
member of the National Rhythmic Team and wants to be there to support
which ever Individual gymnast represents the USA and of course the group.
If she makes it that is another story, but for now we are realistic and
would like to be there after being involved in the sport for 9 years!

Thank you for your suggestions.



Date:    Fri, 12 Apr 1996 12:35:33 EST
From:    ***@MAIL.FIRN.EDU
Subject: Winfrey

        Are any gymnasts scheduled to be on the Oprah Winfrey show that
have spoken out about gymnastics before.  I hope the producers got some big
name gymnasts to be on the show to speak for (like Betty Okino, Mary Lou
Retton) and against (Chelle Stack, Erica Stokes).  Like Mary Lou has said
time and time again "You don't here any complaints from the winners!"


Date:    Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:50:54 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Oprah Show

What time is this on? I need to know so that I can set my vcr before school.


Date:    Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:00:33 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 7 Apr 1996 to 8 Apr 1996

In a message dated 96-04-08 07:05:18 EDT, you write:

>Date:    Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:55:54 -0400
>Subject: Splitting Gymn-L
>I'm sorry I am sending this out to the digest, but I forgot the name of the
>person who first brought up the topic.
>I personally feel that gymn-l should be split. I am a gymnast, and recently
>all that I've been seeing in Gymn-L are long articles about controversial
>topics, arguing about the code, and the lives of fdamous gymnasts. I think
>that other gymnasts like myself, and parents of gymnasts would greatly
>benefit from a new digest. I'd rather get two different digests each day,
>then one extremely long one that requires downloading. If we really
>to combine the needs of gymnasts and parents with needs of fans and judges,
>then the digest would get way too long. Two shorter digests would be great,
>as long as we can stillsubscribe to both. As many of you gymners say, I just
>wanted to give my "$0.02" on the issue.


Date:    Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:16:58 -0700
From:    ***@SCRIPPS.EDU
Subject: adult gymnastics classes

        Sharon T asked about adult gymnastics classes and Dean
Dryer gave some very good suggestions, I would like to add one more:
        Your local college may have classes through the campus recreation
department which are open to the general public.  Even if there are only
children's classes, expressing interest in an adult class may be enough for
them to start one.  While attending UC San Diego I joined the campus rec
department to coach existing children's classes and when I went to the
dept. administration and suggested offering adult classes it was as easy as
that-- they were put in place.  Now there are several levels of all-around
classes along with tumbling, strength, and trampoline classes.
        Anyhow, it might be worth a shot--


Date:    Fri, 12 Apr 1996 22:45:30 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Full Out Twisting

This type of twisting is obviously possible, we have all seen it.  It is
totally possible within the laws of mechanics.  It is simply borrowed angular
momentum from the transverse axis (flipping) rotation to the longitudinal
axis (twisting) rotation.  The gymnast borrows this by changing the
distribution of the inertial moment around the center of mass.  This is
accomplished either by developing a tilt, or by lenthening one side of the
body with respect to the other  with a side arch, or raising/lowering one
There is a lot of action/reaction going on here, and the math is really,
REALLY complicated.  Any physicist who says it isn't possible is probably a
lousy mathematician, plus they obviously haven't sat down and watched slow
motion video.


Date:    Fri, 12 Apr 1996 22:22:21 -0600
Subject: MAG/WAG: San Juan Worlds

Are any GYMNs going to the meet? Will they have photos for their home pages?

Is there going to be a GYMN reporter?

Does anyone know if there will be updates on the USGF WWW pages of scores
during the meet? Anyone know of ANY WWW page updates for the meet?



End of GYMN-L Digest - 12 Apr 1996 to 13 Apr 1996