GYMN-L Digest - 11 Jun 1996 to 12 Jun 1996

There are 9 messages totalling 290 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Lisa McCrady vs. John Macready
  2. sour grapes
  3. (Fwd) Re:  Makuts
  4. Worlds Photo Gallery -- finally, eh!
  5. Mikeing Coaches
  6. GYMN... radio
  7. Katie Teft Update
  8. Boginskaya's comeback
  9. Katie Teft


Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:00:15 CST
From:    ***@MAROON.TC.UMN.EDU
Subject: Lisa McCrady vs. John Macready

">Does anyone know if John Macready and Lisa Macready, formerly of
>Univ. of Nebraska women's team, are related?  They kind of look a

Shawn, no, they are NOT related.  (Notice that Lisa's maiden name is not
spelled the same way at all.  It's McCrady.)  Lisa is from the Minneapolis
area & I judged her for years before she went to Nebraska.  She trained
under a number of coaches, including Joan Moore & Joan's former husband Bob
Rice.  Lisa was also a Minnesota state high school champion.  She is now
married & has a young child and lives in the same suburb I do. (Eagan,
Minnesota)  I've seen her a few times at the health club where I work out.



Date:    Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:02:05 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: sour grapes

In the last few days (and much too frequently the rest of the time), people
on this list have bashed and bad-mouthed the men's team, specific men's
National team members, Bela, Dominique M, and Geza Pozar's choreography to
obsession.  You people are an embarrassment to a proud and difficult sport
that has some of the most dedicated and hard-working people associated with
it that you will find anywhere.  Since none of you have made anywhere near
the accomplishments of these gymnasts and coaches, you are wasting our time
reading this trash.



Date:    Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:04:24 +0000
From:    ***@DORSAI.ORG
Subject: (Fwd) Re:  Makuts

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------

I was asked to pass along the following information.
Thanks for your time.




I am a past Olympic, World, European and World Cup champion.  I now work as
a coach in the city of Lvov, Ukraine.  I am also a fully certified
international judge and have judged the recent world championships in
Sabae, Japan.

I am looking for a position as a coach, assistant coach, or instructor.  I
am open to a variety of arrangements.

I speak English, Russian, Ukranian and Polish.

I can be reached at the following address:   Bogdan Makuts, Ukraine 290016
Lvov, Dekarta Str 2/14a.  My phone and fax numbers are as follows:
011/0322-33-07-60 and 011/0322-52-57-79-21-64-80.


Date:    Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:21:47 -0400
Subject: Worlds Photo Gallery -- finally, eh!

Okay, after sufficient nagging and organization, I have finally posted my
gallery of photos from Worlds in Puerto Rico.  There are 21 up there now,
mostly action shots, but I have tons more photos to scan in and upload, so
if you have a favourite gymnast that you want to see a photo of, please let
me know!  I'll do my best.

The gallery page is at




P.S.  I'll be hauling my bucket of doubles down to Boston to sell during
Oly Trials/Congress June 27-July 1.


Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:31:27 -0700
From:    ***@SONIC.NET
Subject: Mikeing Coaches

>"The way NBC miked the coaches during the broadcast of the women's
>nationals was more than just annoying -- I found it insulting as
>well.  I can't recall any other sports broadcast that has placed so =
>emphasis on the coach *during* the athlete's performance."

Hear, hear! From a coach who was there. The show at any competition =
should be the athletes, not the coaches. Coaches, however, are not the =
only ones that I have had ruin the enjoyment of a meet with distracting =
BS. I find NCAA Women's meets even worse.=20

One of my former coaches put it well when, after attending a NCAA =
Women's meet (trying to show some support for the Women's program at the =
University), he asked me why the women found it necessary to stand as a =
group around the FX mat yelling, clapping and screaming during every =
performance. He said he couldn't hear even hear the music and the =
gymnasts blocked the view of many spectators making the whole affair =
rather difficult to enjoy. He was rather puzzled by the whole affair, as =
I must say I am also. I like enthusiasm as much as the next person, but =
I appreciate it in the performance of the athletes, the excessive and =
rowdy cheering on the side lines is very bush league and a distraction.

Almost as bad as mikeing a coach



Date:    Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:59:38 -0400
Subject: Re: GYMN... radio

Gymnastics coverage on radio wouldn't be too bad if the commentary is good
and there are a lot of interviews.  This is what I discovered while I was a
Worlds and had made some new chums with the Beijing radio fellows.   They
describe everything in great detail, and interview their athletes almost
daily.  In China, not everyone has television and newspapers generate
voluminous waste (environmentally not just propoganda), so radio has to be
comprehensive.  What really gelled for me, though, was when Liu Xuan's bars
score in finals was posted (9.70 out of 9.9), they turned on their tape
recorders to capture the crowd booing!




Date:    Wed, 12 Jun 1996 01:57:26 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Katie Teft Update

Hi folks,
  My name is Patrick, I am the women's program director and head coach
at Queen City Gymnastics in Cincinnati, Ohio.  I just got on the gym list
recently and this is my first post.  I probably won't post very often, but in
this case I thought some accurate info would be appropriate.
  Katie Teft is coached by John and Kathryn Geddert.  They were, until just
before U.S. Classics, employed by Great Lakes Gymnastics.  John and Kathryn
were released/quit, for reasons I will not go into here (as it isn't public
business), and have decided to open their own gym.  The new gym is going to
be called "Twistars" and will be located in the Lansing, MI area.  At this
time, their new gym is not truly open to my knowledge, but should be as soon
as possible.  Getting back to the point, however, Katie elected to continue
training with the Gedderts as opposed to staying at Great Lakes.  So, while
it appears as though Katie has changed gyms just before the Olympic Trials,
she has not changed coaches.  At this point that is about all the information
there is on this subject, except to wish Katie the best of luck in training
for Trials.

Hope this was helpfull.



Date:    Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:14:49 +0200
From:    ***@CTI.ECP.FR
Subject: Boginskaya's comeback

It is a real pleasure to see "old" gymnasts like Dominique Dawes, Shannon Miller
 or Svetlana Boginskaya compete and win medals. And it is all the more pleasant
 as they don't lack personality.

As far as Svetlana is concerned, I met her in the South of France in August 1992
 after Barcelona in a private swimming-pool. She was living in a hotel with
 Tatiana Gutsu. One day, they came to the swimming-pool and spent about an hour
 sunbathing and swimming. To my mind, Gutsu was very bad at diving then ! They
 just ate an ice-cream before leaving. I managed to get an autograph from both
 of them and I can remember Boginskaya looked very shy and even embarrassed. I
 think she couldn't speak English, but she might have understood the word
 "congratulations" though (she was probably pretty disappointed with what had
 happened in Barcelona ...). She actually looked far more self-confident later
 for their exhibition.

It seems everything has changed now as all the interviews I have read convey an
 image of happiness. Moreover, Svetlana really seems to believe in herself and
 enjoy herself very much. That is why I am a bit disappointed at reading
 comments, like Marinescu's, saying that Svetlana should retire. It is a pity
 people should be biased against 20-year old girls : would they tell Bogi to
 stop competing if she was 15 ? It is not that I particularly enjoy Svetlana's
 style but her sportmanship deserves everyone's consideration.


PS : well done Shannon !


Date:    Wed, 12 Jun 1996 03:50:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Katie Teft

Well I know I haven't posted to the list for a long time so i may as well
start with an introduction.

My name is Gord Pinkney, and i am Head Coach at the woodstock Gymnastics
Club in Ontario, Canada.

Woodstock is in a small city (only 30,000 people) but we have a strong
base (600 kids per year) and boys and girls competitive programs from
regional to national level.

My main reason for posting this message is to let everyone know that my
wife and i have a homepage with some gymnastics information on it. (as
well as many other things)  It includes pictures of some gymnasts from my
club as well as a few of my favourite gymnasts.  I plan to update it
regularly with results and pictures from around southwestern Ontario, as
well as with interesting links i find.  Anyways if you want to check it
out please do:

The URL is:

Come by our site and be sure to sign the guestbook before you leave.



End of GYMN-L Digest - 11 Jun 1996 to 12 Jun 1996