GYMN-L Digest - 9 Nov 1995 to 10 Nov 1995
There
are 16 messages totalling 374 lines in this
issue.
Topics of the day:
1. IBM Atlanta Gymnastics
Invitational
2. Who was that
girl (2)
3. Zmeskal (2)
4. Neil Thomas
5.
Olympics Watch
6. After Gymnastics...
7. Age requirement...
8. Age Requirements. (2)
9. e-mail
10. Amy Jackson article
11. How do you? (2)
12. Olympic Gold CD-ROM
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 21:09:17 -0700
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject:
IBM Atlanta Gymnastics Invitational
Hooray! Gymn will be
covering the IBM AGI, aka "Pre-Olympics",
November 16-17. The Gymn
reporters will be Rachele and George (if he
can get the vacation time!), and the Gymn
photographer will be Debbie.
We will publish her AGI photos on the Gymn
WWW pages soon after
the conclusion of the
meet. As I did at USA Nationals and
World
Trials, I will be sending the results to Gymn
from the press room
directly
after the close of competition.
Following is the official list of
competitors as of 11/9/95.
Rachele
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IBM
Atlanta Gymnastics Invitational
16-17 November 1995
Georgia Dome,
Atlanta, GA, USA
Schedule
=======================================================
Thursday,
16 November
6:00pm - 8:30pm
men: FX, PH, SR; women: VT, UB
Friday, 17 November
6:00pm -
8:30pm
men: VT, PB, HB; women: BB, FX
Competitors
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Women
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Svetlana
Boguinskaya (BLR)
Elena Piskoun
(BLR)
Ji Liya
(CHN)
Liu Xuan (CHN)
Laetitia
Begue (FRA)
Elvire Teza (FRA)
Miho Hashiguchi (JPN)
Risa Sugawara (JPN)
Alexandra Marinescu
(ROM)
Mirela Turgurlan
(ROM)
Roza Galieva
(RUS)
Elena Grosheva (RUS)
Joanna Juarez Roura (ESP)
Mercedes Pacheco Del Barrio (ESP)
Oksana
Knijnik (UKR)
Lyubev Sheremeta (UKR)
Mohini Bhardwaj (USA)
Katie Teft
(USA)
Men
--------------------------------
Andrei Kan (BLR)
Vitaly Rudnitsky (BLR)
Krasimir Dunev (BUL)
Jordan Jovtchev
(BUL)
Huang Huadong (CHN)
Peter Nikiferow (GER)
Oliver Walther (GER)
Masayoshi
Maeda (JPN)
Masanora Suzuki (JPN)
Hong-Chui
Yeo (KOR)
Alexei Bondarenko (RUS)
Eugeny Podgorni (RUS)
Rustam Sharipov (UKR)
Alexander
Svetlichny (UKR)
Mihai Bagiu (USA)
Jair Lynch
(USA)
Kip Simons (USA)
Blaine Wilson (USA)
# # #
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 22:39:41
-0600
From: ***@CARLETON.EDU
Subject:
Who was that girl
I was just wondering who it was that won the
McDonalds cup either
last winter or the winter
before. I know she was a member of
the
Aerials. -Meg
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 21:21:50
-0500
From: ***@EXPERT.CC.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:
Zmeskal
Fellow Gymners,
It
was brought to my attention that I was mistaken about Kim Zmeskal's
performance at an exhibition...I guess she did perform some
top=line
moves. I am sorry to all of those who I may
have "offended". But, I
do
recall, and a few others I have spoken to, that
she fell off beam more
than once. Anyway, my biggest concern, I guess you
could say, is that
she will take the place of
someone else who hasn't been to an Olympics.
I hope I have been able to
clarify my feelings. Feel free to
write me in
response.
Gymnastically
Yours,
Aaron
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 10:38:26
GMT
From: ***@M4-ARTS.BHAM.AC.UK
Subject:
Neil Thomas
Sorry, forgot to post this after the weekend.
This
may be old news that I've missed, but I heard on the local news
here on Friday that Neil Thomas was quitting. I didn't catch all of
it, being surrounded by mad noisy footie fans in my
boyfriend's flat
at the time (!), but there was a
short interview with him in which he
said that the
time had come to quit (and the usual retirement-type
things)
and he was interested perhaps in coaching or in the
promotional
side of the sport.
Did anyone else catch this or know what's
happening? I knew I hadn't
seen him competing at
the Worlds.
Bex
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 08:38:48
-0500
From: ***@YALE.EDU
Subject:
Re: Zmeskal
Anyway, my biggest concern, I
guess you could say, is that
> [Zmeskal] will
take the place of someone else who hasn't been to an
Olympics.
So
will Miller, Dawes, and Strug. And why shouldn't they? The way you
put
it, it's as if the place already belongs to someone else who is
losing something that is rightfully hers, and I just can't
agree with that.
:)
Adriana
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:14:15
-0600
From: ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:
Olympics Watch
Yes, I typed Gordon for Borden!!
Sorry,
it was late.
Jeff
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:23:22
-0400
From: ***@CAPITALNET.COM
Subject:
After Gymnastics...
Around here, I have seen gymnasts go to trampolining and freestyle skiing.
John Ross and Anna
Fraser are two local gymnasts who won World Cup Freestyle
events. John
also won a trampolining world championship. Most of these
people
are simply insane.
A number of athletes from my club, Nepean-Corona,
have gone to Spring
Action Trampoline Centre and
competed at Age group Worlds in Portugal.
A couple of girls have gone to
diving and are doing well at the national
level.
My
case is a bit backwards. I swam
& dove BEFORE gymnastics.
I did trampoline for a year in between
provincial and university level
gymnastics. After a few detours into racquet sports
and soccer, I'm now
figure skating -- something
I've always wanted to do but couldn't afford
when
I was a kid. Ah, the second
childhood is as happy as the first!
Regards,
Grace
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:26:45 -0500
From: ***@EXPERT.CC.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:
Age requirement...
Why was the age requirement raised from 15 to 16,
after the Atlanta
Olympics? I
don't think that is going to have a very good effect. There
are a
lot of "youngsters" that are up and coming that could end up
peaking before they are eligible for the next Olympics. One example
could
be Mina Kim. I know that a lot of
girls are starting to stay in
gymnastics longer,
but a lot of girls are getting to be top competitors
at
younger ages, i.e. Dominique Moceanu, and before her
it was Kerri
Strug. Hopefully this doesn't reduce the
"supply" of very skilled,
deserving
girls. If I am not mistaken, didn't
Phoebe Mills "peak" before
she had a
chance to compete in an Olympics?
Gymnly
Yours,
Aaron
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:15:13
-0500
From: ***@STYX.IOS.COM
Subject:
Re: Who was that girl
I think you are referring to Kristy Powell who won the 1995
American
Cup. The year before
Dominique Dawes won. I wonder which American will
win
this year.
Lori
> I was just wondering who it was that won the
McDonalds cup either
> last winter or the
winter before. I know she was a
member of the
> Aerials. -Meg
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:02:43
-0500
From: ***@UMICH.EDU
Subject:
Age Requirements.
I agree with what was said. When IG talked about Mina Kim's problem,
and
she said that she will stay healthy and active and so on; the first
that
came
to me is how is she going to do this when Sydney is in 2000 and
it is only
1995. Is there a championship in
1997? Who will make up the
US
team then?
Will we finally see Vannesa Alter,
Gail, Alexis and Mina Kim then?
Will
the "vetrens"
of the 96 Olympics , have to go
through the same question
as i.e Borden
Dawes Miller Strug and who ever else are supposedly going
through
now?
All
I know is from what I read on Gymn and in IG there
could be a
potential problem.6666
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:34:15
-0600
From: ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:
Re: Age Requirements.
You'll recall that the age requirement was
changed in the 1970's. I think it
prevented Nadia
from competing in some meets. That change went through and
I am sure it effected her, one of the all time greats. I am in favor of
an
age change, since it might prevent too intense
training too early and then
fade away (example:
Elena Gurova.)
Don't get me wrong. Alot of great gymnasts were child prodigies. But the
bulk were not, and should not be forced to be so just to
compete. Some
gymnasts, and I believe there was a
discussion about this in the past on
this list,
peaked later in their careers. Some even in college. I
think
it is favorable to the athlete to increase
age requirements to prevent
early burn-out.
Jeff
Never
EVER trust anyone with YOUR gymnastics tickets!!
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 18:09:40
-0500
From: ***@INTERNETMCI.COM
Subject:
e-mail
Dear Friends,
I
have changed my e-mail address once again!
It is:
***@uky.campus.MCI.net
If
you don't hear from me for a few days, it's because I've messed
up my e-mail dialer again! I hope you get this!
Chris
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 18:34:18
-0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Amy Jackson article
In my new Seventeen magazine,
there is a long article about Amy Jackson.
It
tells about her depression, hatred for
the sport, and her father's obsession
with
it. The bad part is it had a quote
from Joan Ryan! It breifly explains
about the book.
It has two cute pictures of Amy when she was about nine.
One of them is of her team and little Kim
Zmeskal was in it too. I didn't
post
it cuz it was way too long and it's against Gymn rules.
Okay, back to
lurking!
Bye bye,
Anne ;)
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:40:02
-0600
From: ***@VIPER.NET
Subject:
How do you?
I was wondering on how one becomes a compulsory judge?...what all must you do
and
how hard is it.
Michele
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:43:48
-0800
From: ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject:
Olympic Gold CD-ROM
I picked up a copy of "Olympic Gold: A 100
Year History of the Summer
Olympic Games" in
Egghead Software today. It's a
multimedia CD-ROM for
Windows which has results of *all* Summer Olympic
events from 1986 to
1992. Also
included are 2 winter sports, figure skating and ice hockey.
The
gymnastics section is very thorough, including a history of the sport,
a "rule book" mentioning some of the requirements
for each apparatus
(along with their dimensions),
and a list of every medalist. It
is
illustrated with numerous photos and 4 video
clips (Chukarin's PH from the
'56
Games; Caslavska highlights from '68; Comaneci '76;
and Retton '84).
It's also possible
to search the "athletes" section for individual gymnasts'
results. Some of these bios are accompanied by smallish photos. I found
it
kind of strange that there were no photos for some AA winners -- Gutsu,
Scherbo, Gushiken, and Davydova for
example.
In any event, I think that this CD-ROM could keep one busy
for months,
and that the $40 price is well worth
it. :)
Debbie
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 21:07:01
-0500
From: ***@BUTTERCUP.CYBERNEX.NET
Subject:
Re: How do you?
At 07:40 PM 11/10/95 -0600, you wrote:
>I was
wondering on how one becomes a compulsory judge?...what
all must you do
>and how hard is it.
>
>Michele
First you should get in touch with a gym near you so you can watch
the kids do their routines, and you will need to talk with
you're states
"head Judge"- they assign
the judges to the meets. Basically
you just need
to pass a test for each of the
levels which is given a few times a year
depending
on where you are. Once you pass the
test you have to practice
judge twice- unpaid (but
you can also do it before you're tested).
To
actually judge you must be a
professional member of USA Gymnastics, and your
states
judges association. And of coarse
you'll need the mandatory blue
suite. They don't tell you that you need to buy
the compulsory book, but it
is usefull.
I don't think the test is that hard, especially if you've
watched a lot of gymnastics.
I hope this helps.
Lori
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End of GYMN-L Digest - 9 Nov
1995 to 10 Nov 1995
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