GYMN-L Digest - 7 Oct 1995 to 8 Oct 1995 - Special issue
There are 10 messages totalling 527 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Shannon's Injury
2. World coverage
3. Aussie girls in 12th!
4. Worlds: M. rothlesberger (sp?)
5. Worlds: Mens All-Around Results
6. Worlds: Womens All-Around (2)
7. <No subject given>
8. Worlds:Women's All-around
9. Women's All-Around
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 00:00:18 -0400
Subject: Shannon's Injury
Shannon Miller deserves so much credit for her incredible performances
during the team optionals. I really didn't care for Shannon before, but now
I have gained a deep respect for her and her abilities. With her injury,
does that mean she'll scratch from the AA or EF? I sure hope not! Anyone
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 00:08:58 -0400
Subject: World coverage
Is ABC not showing event finals? This week their showing team comp. and next
week their showing all-around.
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 14:53:51 EST-11
Subject: Aussie girls in 12th!
I thought they wouldn't be able to do it but they did!
Congrats girls - well done.
Well done guys as well - 16th isn't bad - two go to Atlanta!!
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 01:19:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Worlds: M. rothlesberger (sp?)
Yeah, its nice to see Mike do well. He'll be in our gym Sunday October 22nd
to work with our boys team, and on Monday, he is doing exhibitions at three
area grade schools to help us develop further interest. Here in Grand Forks,
NDak, everyone thinks their kid is going to be a first round NHL draft pick,
so all sports except hockey have an uphill recruiting fight until about 8th
grade//Mike's presence should be a good event for our city and club//Don
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 04:27:48 -0400
Subject: Worlds: Mens All-Around Results
World Championships 1995
Sabae, Japan 1-10 October 1995
Mens All-Around Results
1. Li Xiaoshuang (CHN) 57.998
2. Vitaly Scherbo (BLR) 57.499
3. Evgeni Chabaev (RUS) 57.248
4. Alexei Voropaev (RUS) 57.212
5. Valeri Belenki (GER) 57.198
6. Yoshiaki Hatakeda (JPN) 56.999
7. Yuri Chechi (ITA) 56.861
8. Jinjing Zhang (CHN) 56.799
17. Rustam Charipov (UKR) 56.312
18. Ivan Ivankov (BLR) 56.612
23. Dimitri Karbonenko (RUS) 55.849
25. Blaine Wilson (USA) 55.750
30. John Roethlisberger (USA) 55.300
31. Jair Lynch (USA) 55.262
Sherwin - just woken up... more details later.
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 08:10:02 -0400
Subject: Worlds: Womens All-Around
World Championships 1995
Sabae, Japan 1-10 October 1995
I'm trying something new... this is live commentary. The
meet is on TV as I type... so this could be long I'm
afraid... and sorry if this is sketchy.
Dom Moceanu started on beam followed by Shannon Miller's
floor. Both were fairly clean... small wobble for Dom
on her flick/layout/layout/layout.
Mo Huilan was very focused before the start, eyes closed,
oblivious to her surroundings. She went on beam... and
she sat on her dismount! Big disappointment since she
is certainly one of the favourites!
Nice smile from Tsavdaridou after her bars routine.
Khorkina beam - clean - 9.775. She's disappointed with the
Piskun on beam - BIG mistake on her full-twisting back
somi. She was nearly off but managed to stay on. However,
her arms and legs were everywhere, it was as good as a
Meng Fel fell off her Gaylord salto (or Mo salto) on bars.
Milosovici powerful on floor as always earns her 9.825.
She takes the lead.
Kochetkova 9.75 on beam.
Podkopayeva 9.812 on bars, with a little hop on her landing.
Risa Sugawara of Japan - I think she's underated - came on
floor. Good tumbles including whips to double twists punch
Anna Mirgorodskaya of Ukraine. The most eye catching new
star of the meet, I'd say. Excellent bars, including a
sky high Jaeger, and a Tkatchev in reverse swing (I guess
this skill must have a different name...). Only 9.712...
her score will only go up in future meets as people get
to know her.
Rotation Two already (time flies when you're having fun)
Haven't got the current standings... they were showing
Pachecho on vault. Good but nothing extraordinary.
Gogean on bars... another one gone! Couldn't hold the
handstand on the top bar, she actually fell on the bar
but managed to escape falling onto the floor in a heap
by grapping the bar tight enough to let herself gently
down. In the replay it showed that she lost grip of her
left hand during that handstand.
Khorkina on floor. Like her little tumble which she
included a new little leap in the middle of it (sorry
it's difficult to describe some of these moves). No
mistakes from her. All smiles from her. 9.687 - seems
a little low to me.
Gogean's bar score : 9.037.
Piskun follows on floor. Triple twists... 2 and 1/2
twists punch front... oh I missed the final tumble.
Milo VT (can she win an AA at last?) 1/2 Yurchenko.
Power power power. Only 9.662! The scores are definately
Oh hi Boguinskaya... forgot she existed since they
(surprisingly) didn't show her routine in the first
rotation. She's on floor now. struggling with her
tumbles a bit. The crowd loves her (as expected).
Pods on beam. Clean so far... little break on a jump,
but otherwise very solid. Yes, she's happy. 9.787.
9.612 for Bog's floor... only 9.387 in her beam in
the previous rotation!
Kerri Strug on bars - piked Jaeger... Tkatchev... full
twisting double back. Good 9.762.
Advert break... Boo.
We returned to the studio for some reason and Dagmar
Kersten was today's studio guest. Bla bla bla etc etc etc.
Anyone for German?
They're replaying Mirgorodskaya's bars... they obviously
like it... or maybe Dagmar's saying "hey that skill is
Ah-ha we're back. Amanar's VT. DTY Double twist Yurchenko.
Plopped like a sixpence. 9.862!! (9.837 and 9.887)
Dom Moceanu gets ready for floor. "Let's Twist Again"
and cutesey style that... oh she stepped outside the area
off her punch front.
Shannon on vault. 9.7 for her first one... second vault...
that familiar "yeah!" from Steve Nunno on what looks a
pretty good 1/2 twisting Yurchenko.
Mo on floor. Still the same typewriter music as last year.
She's a bit off today, bouncing off the floor on the
landings of her tumbles... and nearly fell backward in her
last tumble but managed to keep her balance and stayed on
her feet. She is not happy though. The bag she's carrying
is bigger than her.
Amanar in the lead followed by Pods, Milo, Kochet, Khorkina,
Grosheva, Strug... Moceanu's 9th and Miller's at 10th after
two rotations. This is exciting!
Piskoun's VT. DTY. 9.687 for her first (slight hop on
landing) 9.625 for her second.
Bogie's VT. She's smiling despite a step on landing
(yurchenko 1/2). think she's having fun. 9.512 for her 1st.
Oh she had two big steps after her second.
Milo on bars. No mistakes! She's on course. 9.862!
Podkop Pie on floor. double front... with half twist! That's
new. She didn't fall off either! She's got a chance. 9.850.
Mao's beam. The usual Chinese difficulty including the
Yang Bo jump. 9.812.
Grosheva was nervy on beam, I didn't see all of it (they
were in an advert break) 8.875.
Only 9.449 for Kochet on VT.
Little Dom is preparing for vault, by far her weakest event.
Hey wow it was good. Stuck 1 & 1/2 Yurchenko. 9.712 for her
first. Not too bad in her seonc either, it was longer but
had to take a step.
Amanar the leader on bars. Tight legs, good form, Geinger,
Tkatchev, little hop on dismount. 9.775
Mo on VT, still she's a bit off it, a noticable side step.
9.812 though, good score. A foreard step for her second.
9.825 for that.
Shannon on bars. Retaining the title should be out of reach
by now... oh she's lost the swing altogether, and had to be
regenerate it by putting in extra swings. And a step on
landing. Nunno looks away...
Gogean, with a strapped right kneecap, comes on beam. She's
waiting... and waiting...
Only 9.362 for Shannon's bars.
Gogean's still waiting to come on whilst the judges are
having a telephone conference... OK now's ready. Gogean's on.
Sharp movements on beam are Gina's trademark. She stayed on
and it was clean. 9.700.
Khorkina goes on vault. Clean and complex for 9.756.
Simona Amanar was pretty happy, whereas Podkopayeva seemed
a little tight. They're waiting for the last rotation to get
under way. Irina Evdokimova has still got to go on floor in
Pods in the lead! Followed by Amanar, Milo, Khorkina, Moceanu,
Strug, Kochet, Mao and Mo. Can Pods put it together?!
Pods went first on vault - Pretty solid first vault. 9.762.
Second vault... she goes... and she hits! She's crying with
joy! C'mon judges, give it to her, she certainly deserves it.
Patiently waiting... 9.837 for her second making an overall
score of 9.799. Amanar was expressionless.
Pods is pretty cool now. Quietly observing the others. She's
got the advantage since recent previous champs always finishes
Mao on floor. Quite good.
Sugawara on beam... and immediately she's off it. Other from
that fall it was pretty solid.
Moceanu, with a chance of a medal, comes on bars. It was fast...
and sharp, and clean! Loud applause.
Immediately we switch to Simona Amanar just starting on beam.
Flick/layout/flick/layout, no wobbles. Little adjustment on
the front somi. A little step on double back dismount...
Mo on bars, caught her Mo salto. A little step on her
landing but otherwise very good. 9.862.
Simona waves and smiles to the cameras... only 9.637 for her
bars though, she's in second at the moment behind Pods.
Miller on beam... a bit low on her landing but the rest were
pretty good. She's of course disappointed with this meet.
Pods is quietly confident. Amanar seems content with second.
Tsavdaridou's VT. Little jump on the ladning but she's happy
Khorkina's bars, could she snatch it? She's certainly excellent
on bars on paper. Here she goes... the crowd holds its breath.
Complex twisting movements on the bars and a perfect dismount!
Waiting for the score... 9.912 and she moves into second! Sveta
screams with joy and embraces her coach. Nice moment.
Piskun goes on bars. Flawless routine but too late of the day
Elena. Tarasevich was helping Elena to blow off some chalk in
her eye. 9.825 for the routine.
Boguinskaya next on bars (not a favored apparatus of hers). A
Tkatchev that she didn't use to do before she "retire"! She's
happy with the routine with a broad grin on her face... hugs
Moceanu her (ex?) club mate. 9.787
Pod's smile is getting wider by the minute. Only Milo can
change things now.
Here she is preparing for the beam. And the green light is on
and off she goes. Steady... calm... and yes! It was clean all
the way from start to finish with a stuck double back. Even
Lavinia is crying now! She waits... 9.737 and it is third
spot for her yet again.
Pods celebrates her victory with a quiet kiss with her coach.
Everybody is congratulating her. No less having a nice hug
with her pal Elena Piskun. Pods is now overcome with emotion
and weeps much in joy, shaking every person's hand
in offer. OH, she's happy alright!
My video tape just finishes (phew that was close).
Womens All-Around Results: (Top 18)
1. Liliya Podkopayeva (UKR) 39.248
2. Svetlana Khorkina (RUS) 39.130
3. Lavinia Milosovici (ROM) 39.086
4. Simona Amanar (ROM) 39.049
5. Dominique Moceanu (USA) 38.886
6. Huilan Mo (CHN) 38.754
7. Kerri Strug (USA) 38.749
8. Dina Kochetkova (RUS) 38.686
9. Yanling Mao (CHN) 38.630
10. Yelena Piskun (BLR) 38.530
11. Irina Boulakhova (UKR) 38.462
12. Shannon Miller (USA) 38.386
13. Laetitia Begue (FRA) 38.299
14. Gina Gogean (ROM) 38.280
15. Vassou Tsavdaridou (GRE) 38.267
16. Svetlana Boguinskaya(BLR) 38.261
17. Jana Juarez (ESP) 38.217
18. Elvire Teza (FRA) 38.199
I'll leave you with Podopayeva produly standing on top of
the award podium with the Ukranian anthem ringing loud
around the arena.
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 08:19:05 -0400
Subject: <No subject given>
I think do not Shannon Miller is the only gymnast who should be commended
but all of the girls and boys who
competed in this competion with injuries of all kinds and stuck with it.
Also to those who
worked hard with injuries like Dominique Dawes who participated in all of
the trails even though they were hurting. Also to those who were down
from last place pr whatever and worked hard to become second, third, or
fourth. i.e. Russians. Also I like to commend those who did not make the
team because of injury but were smart not to go and make the injury
worst. It took a lot of guts and mental toughness to forgo this
championship. I hope that no one is hurt next year and 96 will be a fun
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:54:32 PDT
Subject: Re: Worlds:Women's All-around
Yeah Pod!!! I'm so happy for her! I'm glad Khorkina got 2nd too! What a pity
about Mo's beam! It could have been 1/2 for her! I'm glad some of the more
'underrated' gymnasts came out tops.
Thanks Sherwin for the commentary. I felt like I was there!!
Off to celebrate!
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:52:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Worlds: Womens All-Around
Wow. Hooray for the Pod!
As for the running-commentary format of your post, Sherwin, I like
it! Felt like I was watching. It's maybe a bit deserving of a spoiler
notice at the top, since we probably won't be getting a broadcast here for a
week or so, but I probably would have found out anyway. And, it appears
that British TV is somewhat better than ours for getting in coverage of
routines; from the list of people you saw, there seemed to be more
competitors shown regardless of how they came out in the end. (Americans?
How does this compare to ABC?)
There has been that trend in the past, though, of the last year's
womens' world champion to not end up on the top of the medals stand at the
Olympics? (Though trends tend to be broken.) Maybe a bit of a jinx on Pod,
but the field's open for, say, Milo. Unless you don't believe in luck.
[Back to lurk mode.]
Piskoun's VT. DTY.
P.S. What does this mean? (Or am I just not getting enough sleep to get it? :)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:18:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Women's All-Around
Date sent: 8-OCT-1995 09:12:58
I'm shocked. Really shocked. I'm going to compare Lilia to Paul Wylie, in
that she was always one of the best on the floor but was never able to put
it together. Well, she finally did. Gratz to Podkopayeva, who remains one
of my favorites.
I'm a little disappointed ,with what I saw of the scoring though. It seemed
to be wildly inconsistent, at least with comparisons to the routine
discriptions. Oh, well, I'll know more when I see it. Since I'm sortaflying
blind right now, I can't really complain.
And gratz to Dom and Strug, who obviously put together steady performances.
I feel for Shannon, who went out much the way Silivas did in 1989. Let's
hope her career isn't over, too. The US needs her in Atlanta.
And, finally, while I will not dispute the Romanina victory, the
congratulations have to go to the Chinese women, who were always seemingly
stuck in fourth. I'm really thrilled to see them finally pull out of the
rut. The high score of the sesion for a CHINESE on VAULT??? Boy, times have
changed, and I'd say for the better. Atlanta should truly be a four team
End of GYMN-L Digest - 7 Oct 1995 to 8 Oct 1995 - Special issue