GYMN-L Digest - 5 Mar 1996 to 6 Mar 1996

There are 5 messages totalling 278 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Houston Chronicle Interactive
2. Collegiate Gymnastics
3. Central Florida Invitational
4. NBC and Live coverage
5. regarding IG complaint

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 23:10:43 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Houston Chronicle Interactive

Has anyone been having trouble accessing this web site? Every time I want to
view a document it asks me for a paasword and user ID. If anyone can explain
this problem, I would appreciate it. Thanks.



Patrice

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 23:25:07 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Collegiate Gymnastics

To All:
You know, I've been reading back and forth about the lackadaisacal
attitude IG takes toward U.S. collegiate gymnastics, and a thought occured to
me.
If you look at the top 20 women's teams and figure they have 5 home
meets each, and then you look at the average attendance of each home meet --
then your total number of spectators equals:
---------- 485,000!!!!! -----------
That's more people than the attendance of 45 American Cups. That's more
people than USA Gymnastics generates in an entire year in major elite
competitions. And I'm not even including attendance at the 30 other women's
programs or at the men's meets. Add all those up, and the number of total
spectators goes over 600,000 or even higher.
And, yet, IG and the other major magazines sit back and say, "Naaaaa,
we don't want to cover collegiate gymnastics."
Geez, if they really wanted to help increase their circulation, they'd
start giving real coverage to collegiate gymnastics and then have "sponsors"
set up booths at collegiate meets to sell subscriptions (from which they make
a commission).
But, no, I guess more than a half-million spectators isn't worth it.
-- Ronald

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 00:13:48 EST
From: ***@PRODIGY.COM
Subject: Central Florida Invitational

1996 Central Florida Invitational - Class 2 Results

Floor
1 9.100 Bradley Golden Brown's Metro
2 8.850 Jason Moresi TGC
3 8.800 Duke VanFleet Apollo School
4 8.600 Orrin Donley Culbertson's
T 5 8.300 David Livingston TGC
T 5 8.300 James Dellavecchia SunCoast
T 7 8.150 Raj Bahvsar Cypress Acad.
T 7 8.150 Dustin Greenhill Octaviano's
T 7 8.150 Nathan Blair Cypress Acad.
T 7 8.150 Tripp Glascow Brown's Metro

Pommel Horse
1 7.250 Duke VanFleet Apollo School
2 7.200 Jason Moresi TGC
T 3 6.800 Shannon Carrion TGC
T 3 6.800 Bradley Golden Brown's Metro
T 5 6.550 Raj Bahvsar Cypress Acad.
T 5 6.550 David Livingston TGC
7 6.300 Orrin Donley Culbertson's
8 5.750 Kevin Sykes Olympic
T 9 5.450 Dustin Greenhill Octaviano's
T 9 5.450 Robert Wallace Apollo School

Rings
1 8.900 Raj Bahvsar Cypress Acad.
2 7.050 Shannon Carrion TGC
3 6.950 Duke VanFleet Apollo School
4 6.850 Jason Moresi TGC
5 6.750 Brett Covey Cypress Acad.
T 6 6.600 Bradley Golden Brown's Metro
T 6 6.600 David Livingston TGC
8 6.350 Orrin Donley Culbertson's
9 6.250 Joseph Goodmok SunCoast
10 5.700 Dustin Greenhill Octaviano's

Vault
1 9.375 Duke VanFleet Apollo School
2 9.025 Raj Bahvsar Cypress Acad.
T 3 8.950 Nick Brooks Cypress Acad.
T 3 8.950 James Dellavecchia SunCoast
5 8.925 Joseph Goodmok SunCoast
6 8.900 Shannon Carrion TGC
T 7 8.825 Bradley Golden Brown's Metro
T 7 8.825 Dustin Greenhill Octaviano's
T 9 8.800 Jason Moresi TGC
T 9 8.800 Brett Covey Cypress Acad.
T 9 8.800 Adam Greenspan Sun Country

Parallel Bars
1 7.450 Nick Brooks Cypress Acad.
2 7.350 Duke VanFleet Apollo School
T 3 7.300 Shannon Carrion TGC
T 3 7.300 Joseph Goodmok SunCoast
5 7.250 Raj Bahvsar Cypress Acad.
6 7.050 Dustin Greenhill Octaviano's
7 7.000 Bradley Golden Brown's Metro
8 6.850 David Livingston TGC
T 9 6.750 Orrin Donley Culbertson's
T 9 6.750 Robert Wallace Apollo School

High Bar
1 8.350 Shannon Carrion TGC
2 8.000 Duke VanFleet Apollo School
3 7.550 Raj Bahvsar Cypress Acad.
T 4 7.150 Jason Moresi TGC
T 4 7.150 Joseph Goodmok SunCoast
6 6.950 David Livingston TGC
7 6.850 Bradley Golden Brown's Metro
8 6.700 Brett Covey Cypress Acad.
9 6.250 Orrin Donley Culbertson's
10 6.100 Robert Wallace Apollo School

All-Around
1 47.725 Duke VanFleet Apollo School
2 47.425 Raj Bahvsar Cypress Acad.
3 46.250 Shannon Carrion TGC
4 45.450 Jason Moresi TGC
5 45.175 Bradley Golden Brown's Metro
6 44.025 David Livingston TGC
7 42.775 Orrin Donley Culbertson's
8 41.325 Joseph Goodmok SunCoast
9 40.875 Dustin Greenhill Octaviano's
10 39.700 Brett Covey Cypress Acad.


1996 Central Florida Invitational - Class 1 16-18 Results

Floor
1 9.150 SanJuan Jones TGC
2 9.050 Greg Weller Culbertson's
3 8.750 Marcus Powell Cypress Acad.
4 8.550 Ben Oblander SunCoast
5 8.400 David Ruiz Brown's Metro
T 6 8.350 Andrew Fisher Octaviano's
T 6 8.350 Shayne Walker TGC
8 8.250 Devin Ryan Apollo School
9 8.150 Justin Joyce Olympic
T 10 8.100 Mark Scheidegg Brown's Metro
T 10 8.100 Brad Ziche Cypress Acad.

Pommel Horse
1 8.900 SanJuan Jones TGC
2 8.550 Gregory Gipson Apollo School
3 8.000 Justin Joyce Olympic
4 7.950 Andrew Fisher Octaviano's
5 7.700 Greg Weller Culbertson's
6 7.250 Harris Newman Olympic
7 6.950 Ben Oblander SunCoast
8 6.850 Scott Miller Brown's Metro
9 6.600 Brian Kovaleski Panastics
10 6.500 Zachary Barber TGC

Rings
1 9.500 SanJuan Jones TGC
2 8.500 Andrew Fisher Octaviano's
3 8.250 Justin Joyce Olympic
4 8.150 Zachary Barber TGC
5 8.100 Scott Wellikoff Champion
6 8.000 Mark Tisius Cypress Acad.
7 7.750 Greg Weller Culbertson's
8 7.650 Mark Scheidegg Brown's Metro
T 9 7.250 Shayne Walker TGC
T 9 7.250 Adam Scoggins Brown's Metro

Vault
1 9.550 SanJuan Jones TGC
2 9.450 Greg Weller Culbertson's
3 9.400 Scott Rudoff Octaviano's
4 9.350 Devin Ryan Apollo School
T 5 9.325 Andrew Fisher Octaviano's
T 5 9.325 Mark Scheidegg Brown's Metro
7 9.275 Shayne Walker TGC
8 9.125 Scott Wellikoff Champion
9 9.050 Ben Oblander SunCoast
10 9.025 Zachary Barber TGC

Parallel Bars
1 8.650 Andrew Fisher Octaviano's
2 8.550 Ben Oblander SunCoast
3 8.450 SanJuan Jones TGC
4 8.250 Mark Tisius Cypress Acad.
5 8.150 Scott Miller Brown's Metro
6 8.050 Greg Weller Culbertson's
7 7.950 Zachary Barber TGC
8 7.900 Harris Newman Olympic
9 7.700 Mark Scheidegg Brown's Metro
10 7.300 Adam Scoggins Brown's Metro

High Bar
1 9.350 SanJuan Jones TGC
2 8.850 David Ruiz Brown's Metro
3 8.700 Shayne Walker TGC
4 8.250 Andrew Fisher Octaviano's
5 7.950 Justin Joyce Olympic
6 7.800 Zachary Barber TGC
7 7.650 Greg Weller Culbertson's
8 7.400 Harris Newman Olympic
9 7.250 Ben Oblander SunCoast
10 7.200 Mark Tisius Cypress Acad.


All-Around
1 54.900 SanJuan Jones TGC
2 51.025 Andrew Fisher Octaviano's
3 49.650 Greg Weller Culbertson's
4 48.175 Justin Joyce Olympic
5 47.125 Shayne Walker TGC
6 46.700 Ben Oblander SunCoast
7 45.625 Harris Newman Olympic
8 44.475 Mark Scheidegg Brown's Metro
9 43.875 David Ruiz Brown's Metro
10 43.850 Mark Tisius Cypress Acad.

STEEL

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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:12:35 -0500
From: ***@CORNELL.EDU
Subject: Re: NBC and Live coverage

At 09:24 PM 3/5/96 -0500, you wrote:
>I think people need to remember that this was a live coverage. Because of
>that, things don't go perfectly. They don't get the privilege of editting.
> NBC must have felt that it would look smoother to show people after their
>routines for a while than jump around showing parts of routines. Although I
>just can't justify them spending so much time on Dominique. Does anyone care
>what she thought of the competition more than seeing routines? I doubt it.

NBC did try something along the lines of showing two routines at
once during the 1988 Olympics, IIRC...they had two teeny windows showing
what was happening simultaneously on two different events. I can't remember
if that was distracting or not...

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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:48:03 +1000
From: ***@OZEMAIL.COM.AU
Subject: regarding IG complaint

Jennifer, why don't you just submit an article anyway? What have you got to
lose? Even if you don't get paid or your article in the magazine at least
you get the experience.

BTW, I think IG has a balanced coverage of NCAA events. Within the last
year, they had a two page article on one of the college gym clubs. I can't
remember which one, but Joanna Davis was one of the gymnasts on the team.
And you really can't complain about their coverage of the nationals,
especially when compared to the crappy coverage devoted to the 95 Worlds
(see my previous whinge).

But I certainly agree with the person who commented on the find-a-words. I
would like to see less of these in favour of more info, pictures.

I'm getting to the stage where I buy IG only for the pictures, because I
certainly get more information and critical comment on this forum.


Simone.

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