GYMN-L Digest - 3 Apr 1996 to 4 Apr 1996
There are 12 messages totalling 606 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. GYMN-L Digest - 3 Apr 1996 to 4 Apr 1996
2. Nordic Champ
3. Woodward Camp
4. Plea for help! (2)
5. Hi There!
6. Kim Zmeskal (3)
7. Job Posting Director/Head Coach Position (s)
8. Kim Zmeskal (fwd)
9. Soviet replacements
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 06:48:13 -0500
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 3 Apr 1996 to 4 Apr 1996
Why do people criticise Dominic? In all pictures she is smiley. I wold die
if I could meet her in person.
Your BIG Fan,
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 07:08:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Nordic Champ
Triple off rings... COOL!!! Paul O'neil did those!!!
Piked Triple of Hbar... man... not that I wanna see!!! Gotta love this
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:00:18 -0500
Subject: Woodward Camp
Our gym is going to go to Woodward Gymnastics Camp. I was wondering has
anyone been there and what is it like.
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:37:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Plea for help!
>I am also interested in conversing with other gymn-enthusiasts who are more
>involved with the Level 5-10 kids. My daughter is a 10-year old Level 5
>(almost 6), and although I find most of the information discussed on this
>interesting, I would love more discussion of booster club issues, parent
>issues, how-to's for young girls (or boys) who are trying to "level-up",
>don't have the technical expertise to set up and/or run another list for
>kinds of discussions, and I haven't brought up these issues on this list
>because I have gotten the impression that most of the people on the list are
>beyond this stuff, but I'd love to see another list get started!! Count me
I have found that there are quite a few GYMN'ers who are parents of level 5 -
10 gymnasts. I think that these issues would make great GYMN topics, and
that some of the coaches online might also have some experiences to
relate...the challenge would be to keep the parental frustrations with
individual club situations out of GYMN-wide posts. I have a pre-comp boy and
two girls, level five and level six (the girls are Rhythmics, so travel costs
are a bit more than artistic at the same levels due to meet locations). Our
club is just going through the growing pains of getting our booster program
incorporated as a not-for-profit entity. We are working to find/develop fund
raisers that attract consistant parental involvement and generate reliable
fundraising return for the time investment. I too, would like to hear if
other GYMNers would find this topic interesting/profitable, or if there
should be a different forum for this type of discussion.//Don Speare
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:09:11 -0500
Subject: Hi There!
I just wanted to take the time to introduce myself. I am a senior at
Ohio University with a major in Sports Industry and a minor in Business
Administration. I am graduating in June (yea!!). My background with
gymnastics includes competing and coaching in a very successful YMCA
program in Ohio. I recently completed an internship with this YMCA
gymnastics department and had the best time with it!!
Currently, I am hunting for a job. (so if you are from the Ohio area and
know of an opening that would be great!) I have enjoyed this listserve
so far and look forward to reading more!
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:23:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Plea for help!
I agree that any discussions of gymn issues concerning the younger competitors
should not degenerate into venting of problems with individual gyms/programs,
etc. I tend to be a positive thinker and don't like to air gripes in any public
forum, especially discussion lists because of the tendancy for such things to
spiral out of control.
I would assume that we would follow the rules of the list regarding etiquette
when discussing any topic.
I am the co-president of our team's booster club, and we are experiencing the
agony of setting up practice and procedure so that the organization can run
efficiently (the team changed gyms 18 months ago, and the booster club was born
at that time). It's been a tough road, with people disagreeing on mission,
types of fundraisers, etc. I do see light at the end of the tunnel, however.
Our competition season is wrapping up next next month and we'll have the summer
to continue the building process. The fundraising issue is always tough, but
I've found "surfing the web" has given us a number of good ideas (searching
I was very interested in the discussion regarding aerobic training versus
anaerobic. My 10 year old is trying to get ready for Level 6 and has been
working with the Level 6 coach once a week to polish her skills, etc. She's
been told that she needs to increase body strength, particularly in her legs
and has asked me to take her to the local track so she can begin running. My
question is, in light of the conversation about aerobic training, is running
NOT the appropriate step for her to take at this point? I applaud her
initiative, but if she needs to increase strength in her legs, should she just
If these are not appropriate topics for this gymn list, could someone say so
(nicely) so that we can work on creating another list? Thanks!
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:58:03 -0500
Subject: Kim Zmeskal
I just thought that I would right in and tell everyone that I talked to
someone in the Karolyi last night and asked about Kim Zmeskal, The man told
me that she is not training at all and she had not been training for at least
2 months. Althought she did come in every once in a while she didn't do much
the unidentified man told me. He told me offically they had to say that it's
her injuries, but he told me that after that she really had not had the same
excitement as when the 92 Olympics was going on and she had told Bela that
she wasn't interested in another olympics. She told Bela she wanted to get on
with her life (college, friends, and a normal everyday life).
So as much as I respected her in the 92 olympics, I lost a great deal
of respect for her when I talked to this man last night. I always had the
best thought towards her, not that they are gone now they've just changed.
I think the theory of the burnout and the presure of the media is the
reason that she did stop the comeback, I mean who wants to go through all
that 2 times?
She is still my favorite gymnast and always will be, and I wish her the
best in the rest of her life.
ps please reply and
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:07:08 -0500
Subject: Job Posting Director/Head Coach Position (s)
Head Coach/Director for a comprehensive recreational and competitive program.
Must have coaching experience with women's USAG level 5-10 gymnasts as well
as the ability to oversee progressive classes. Must be able to manage and
train people effectively, be positive, professional and hardworking.
Opportunity for career advancement based on job performance. Salary
commensurate with experience. Please send application, resume, and 3
references with phone numbers to Board President, Dale Anderson, 1602 32nd
Ave. S, Grand Forks, N.D. 58201, (701)746-2797 or to Shelby Harken, Secretary
The facility is a modern gymnastics facility of 25,000 sq.ft. with a peak
height of 40 ft. Five teams train at our facility: 2 High School, Artistic
Girls, Boys and Rhythmic (prominent at the national level), and a
Recreational base of over 400 kids. Two ground tramps, huge foam pit and an
in-ground tumble tramp/track, along with another Resi-Pit. Recreational
floor, Spring foor and Rhythmic floor, plus separate apparatus areas
including rings, multiple High Bars, UB Brs and a host of Beams. Full
boys/mens training appratus, and both boys and girls locker rooms. The gym
was built with a community coalition effort that raised over a $Million for
this and several other community projects. The gym is attached (but separate
entrances) to a (Park-board run) indoor sports complex hosting a year-around
tennis/racketball facility, healthclub, aerobics programs, ample parking and
more. Gymn has a coaches/staff office suite and small pro shop resides below
a glass flanked spectator mezzanine that doubles as a preschool training
area. Mezzanine also includes an enclosed consession area/board room with
viewing window. The gym location is on the primary corridor linking the major
residential and Middle school areas with the major shopping mall areas.
The Grand Forks regional area has a population of over 60,000, and is one of
several cities under consideration (no promises) as a US training site for
the 1988 Pan Am Games to be held In Winnipeg, Canada. Grand Forks has been
rated in the top ten cities to live by Money Magazine, rating at or near the
top of the nation in employment, education, lack of crime,, commerce and
facilities. Two miles from the Gymn facility is a NCAA Division II University
(division I--Hockey) with 12,000+ students and post graduate programs in Phys
Ed, Sports Medicine, Occ and Phys Therapy, Sports Psychology, Medicine and
perhaps the top Aviation/Aerospace University program internationally.
Culturally, the region is host to a prominent USAF facility, and is in the
planning stages of an indoor events center sheduled to be completed in 1988
which will handle major conventions, indoor football/soccer and major
concerts. Interstate 29 connects Fargo/Moorhead area 80 miles south (Pop:
120,000+) and Winnipeg, Canada (Pop: 600,000+) just 2.5 hours North.
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:04:43 EST
Subject: Kim Zmeskal (fwd)
>I just thought that I would right in and tell everyone that I talked to
>someone in the Karolyi last night and asked about Kim Zmeskal, The man told
>me that she is not training at all and she had not been training for at least
>2 months. Althought she did come in every once in a while she didn't do much
>the unidentified man told me. He told me offically they had to say that it's
>her injuries, but he told me that after that she really had not had the same
>excitement as when the 92 Olympics was going on and she had told Bela that
>she wasn't interested in another olympics. She told Bela she wanted to get on
>with her life (college, friends, and a normal everyday life).
> So as much as I respected her in the 92 olympics, I lost a great deal
>of respect for her when I talked to this man last night. I always had the
>best thought towards her, not that they are gone now they've just changed.
Just curious as to why her decision to forego trying out for the l996
Olympics would cause you to lose a great deal of respect for her? I've
always based my respect on what a person has done in the past or is
doing in the present and not on what I hope they do in the future.
IMO Kim Zmeskal has earned my respect for her past accomplishments and
I only wish her the best in her future endeavors -- either in or out
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:27:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Kim Zmeskal
How could you lose respect for someone who is trying to move on with her
life. If she were truly your favorite gymnast, then you would respect
her wishes and be happy for her.
She is my favorite gymnast ever. I wish her the best of luck in College
and with her boyfriend, and I know she will always be America's first
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:35:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Kim Zmeskal
>She told Bela she wanted to get on with her life (college, friends,
>and a normal everyday life).
>So as much as I respected her in the 92 olympics, I lost a great
>deal of respect for her when I talked to this man last night.
>I always had the best thought towards her, not that they are gone
>now they've just changed.
I'm really confused. I honestly don't know why you would lose respect
for Kim since she doesn't want to do gymnastics any more. If it's not
what she wants to do, she's better off not doing it. Let her live. She
can't keep doing it forever, and I'm sure she wants to enjoy a normal
life and do things she's never been able to do (like date!). Lighten up!
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:21:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Soviet replacements
In response to Jeffery Ruell's post asking when Soviets (don't know specific
ethnicities/citizenships:( ) replaced other Soviets in meets, two biggies stand
out in my mind:
1. 1985 Worlds - (USSR replaced Irina Baraksonava and another (don't
remember who, sorry...fill the gap in my aging memory?) with Omelianchik and
Shushunova, and you all know who won--Omelianchik and Shushunova!
2. 1992 Olympics - This one broke my Stars 'n Strips heart--Gutsu falls
off beam, drops out of AA qualifying standings on her team, but the now infamous
'knee injury' keeps Roza Galieva out of AA and Gutsu gets back into AA, and you
all know who won--Gutsu!
I knew deep down in '92 that Galieva wasn't really injured, and was amazed (and
at peace with my instincts) when it was confirmed by Alexandrov on the 1995
Atlanta Invitational broadcast. Broke my heart for Galieva AND Miller...
Ciao, for now,
End of GYMN-L Digest - 4 Apr 1996 - Special issue