GYMN-L Digest - 2 Oct 1995 to 3 Oct 1995 - Special issue

There are 17 messages totalling 528 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. A couple reminders
  2. Women's Gymnastics-book
  3. Worlds (3)
  4. Women's Gymnastics-book (fwd)
  5. WORLDS: men, day 2
  6. Tacoma,Washington
  7. l'Equipe Predictions
  8. WORLDS:Women's results Day 2
  9. WORLDS: women day 2
 10. British competitors (3)
 11. Gymn's FAQ
 12. WORLDS: day 2, men AA
 13. WORLDS: day 2, women, team & AA

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Date:    Mon, 2 Oct 1995 21:08:21 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: A couple reminders

1. Please do not post copyrighted stories to Gymn.  This includes AP,
Reuters, and other news wires.  Results are different because
... well, they're results, hard facts.  Their use is protected under
the fair use clause of copyright law.  Anything beyond that, just
write a short summary of the article and post the summary to Gymn.

2. Do not include results from televised meets in the subject of a msg
to Gymn.  Many Gymners want to watch the Worlds on TV without knowing
the winner until the last routine.  Use generic subjects like "WORLDS:
Event Finals" so that those wishing to avoid the "spoiler" can just
delete the msg.

Thanks,
Rachele

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Date:    Mon, 25 Sep 1995 18:24:27 PDT
From:    ***@LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: Women's Gymnastics-book

As most of you know, my dad is in San Francisco. He wants to buy me this
book, Women's Gymnastics or something. Has anyone read it? What is it like?
Thanx,
Helen.

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Date:    Mon, 25 Sep 1995 18:22:14 PDT
From:    ***@LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: Worlds

What did Amanda Borden do? Injury-wise.
I thought Sabae was the qualifying comp. for Atlanta. Does this mean if you
don't go to Sabae you can't go to the Olympics? I hope not for Dawes,
Borden, Chow, etc.
Helen.

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 05:42:07 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Women's Gymnastics-book (fwd)

|
| As most of you know, my dad is in San Francisco. He wants to buy me this
| book, Women's Gymnastics or something. Has anyone read it? What is it like?

Helen, there are lots of books that have the words "Women's
Gymnastics" in the title.  Do you have any more specifics?

Rachele

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 05:45:01 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Worlds

| Subject:      Worlds
|
| What did Amanda Borden do? Injury-wise.
| I thought Sabae was the qualifying comp. for Atlanta. Does this mean if you
| don't go to Sabae you can't go to the Olympics? I hope not for Dawes,
| Borden, Chow, etc.
| Helen.

Amanda has a broken toe.

Sabae is the qualifying competition for countries.  If a country is in
the top twelve, then they have qualified to Atlanta.  Countries ranked
13th through 18th have earned the privilege of sending individuals to
the Olympics.

As far as who is ON the teams, that is up the the selectoin procedures
of each nation.  So Dawes, Borden, and Chow are by no means shut out
of the USA Olympic team.

Rachele

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 05:59:16 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: WORLDS: men, day 2

1995 World Gymnastics Championships
Sun Dome, Sabae, Japan
3 October 1995

Men's Team standings after day 2 of compulsories
5 teams remaining to compete

  1. Japan            282.060
  2. China            282.048
  3. U.S.             280.336
  4. Romania          279.979
  5. Bulgaria         278.174
  6. South Korea      277.661
  7. France           277.225
  8. Italy            276.249
  9. Hungary          276.150
  10. Canada          274.762
  11. Switzerland     274.012
  12. Australia       270.687
  13. Czech Republic  262.700
  14. Argentina       262.350
  15. Kazakhstan      260.825
  16. Greece          259.275
  17. Puerto Rico     254.125
  18. Taiwan          199.700
  19. Ireland         190.425

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 08:02:56 -0400
From:    ***@EAGLE.LHUP.EDU
Subject: Re: Tacoma,Washington

When I lived in Seattle and had to visit Tacoma I used to stay at a place
called the Shilo Inn.  Very reasonable and very nice (something like
$59/night).  Have fun.

Julie

> My daughter has a meet in January in Tacoma,Washington.  Can anyone recommend
> any lodging there or things to do? Thanks, Ramon Garcia,MD
>

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 09:24:16 -0400
From:    ***@PHARM.MED.UPENN.EDU
Subject: Re: Worlds

Sabae is the qualifier for the team -- all of the countries that have a
team make it in the top 12 will be able to send a team to represent them at
the olympics -- After that you have to be in the top 35 individuals and not
have your team (country) make it, then you (the individual) may represent
your country in the olympics.

hope that helps

Mayland

>What did Amanda Borden do? Injury-wise.
>I thought Sabae was the qualifying comp. for Atlanta. Does this mean if you
>don't go to Sabae you can't go to the Olympics? I hope not for Dawes,
>Borden, Chow, etc.
>Helen.
>
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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 09:25:39 -0400
From:    ***@PANIX.COM
Subject: l'Equipe Predictions

From a short article in Monday's _l'Equipe_:

The author (Richard Montaignac) really likes the Chinese teams and thinks
that both the men and women will win a team medal.  For the men, RUS and
CHN will battle for the gold, while the ROM women have a slight advantage
over CHN and others.  He thinks that Amanar will win the AA, followed by
Khorkina, Mo Huilan, and Gogean.  "Miller, the current world champion,
seems today to be on the way out."  His predictions for the top 6 men are
-- in no particular order -- Misutin, Shabaev, Li Xiaoshuang,
Korobchinsky, and Nemov.  "The top 6 doesn't include Scherbo, who is too
fat to make it into the top group."

TV note:  France 2 TV will broadcast from Sabae at 3:40 PM on Saturday,
and France 3 TV will have coverage on Sunday at 2 PM...

Debbie

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 09:34:19 -0400
From:    ***@PHARM.MED.UPENN.EDU
Subject: WORLDS:Women's results Day 2

 WWW: Team Competition for Women

          Rank          Country                  Points

                  1st            ROMANIA                       192.570
                  2nd            USA                              191.722
                  3rd            CHINA                           190.819
                  4th            UKRAINE                        189.033 PEN2
                  5th            FRANCE                         187.483
                  6th            BELARUS                       185.893
                  7th            HUNGARY                      184.745
                  8th            JAPAN                          183.430
                  9th            GREECE                         182.857 PEN1
                10th            CANADA                       181.907
                11th            BULGARIA                     180.196
                12th            BRAZIL                          178.807
                13th            UZBEKISTAN                  177.695
                14th            KOREA                           177.419
                15th            ISRAEL                          176.621
                16th            CZECH REPUBLI C           168.357

Countries yet to compete


          Portugal , Denmark , Lithuania , Puerto Rico , Norway
          Morocco , Guatemala , Germany , Kazakhstan , Switzerland
          Netherlands , Poland , Thailand , Great Britain , Mexico
          Spain , Australia , Argentine , South Africa , Belgium ,
          Russia , Italy

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 09:56:55 -0400
From:    ***@PANIX.COM
Subject: WORLDS: women day 2

From the AP, the ROM women scored 192.570, which puts them in front of
the USA.  CHN (190.819) is currently in 3rd.

Gogean's comp. total is 38.799 (including 9.875 on FX) to lead at this
point.  Milosovici (38.65) is in 4th.  Boginskaya (!!) has 38.012 and is
in 11th now.  Meng Fei (CHN) fell on UB and again on her B mount.

Debbie

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:36:13 GMT
From:    ***@M4-ARTS.BHAM.AC.UK
Subject: British competitors

Hi!

Thanks Rachele for all your hard work in providing the results
from Sabae.  Just one question - where are the Brits?! Have they not
competed yet, or are they just doing so badly that no-one's
mentioning them?!

Also, does anyone over here know whether BBC or ITV are planning to
screen ANY of it, even in highlights? Or even the satellite channels?
It seems really stupid to me that despite Neil Thomas' previous
successes, and the women's team making steady progress, not to
mention the good ratings that gym on TV always gets, no-one seems to
be screening it .. I hope someone can prove me wrong!

Bex

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:02:50 -0400
From:    ***@PANIX.COM
Subject: Gymn's FAQ

Rachele and I have finally finished the draft of the FAQ for Gymn. :-)
We'd appreciate any comments, corrections, suggestions, etc. from
interested Gymners.  You can ftp a copy from either PSU or Netcom:

ftp://ftp.cac.psu.edu/pub/gymn/Other/faq.txt
ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ta/talloo/faq.txt

Please send all correspondence to me (talloo@panix.com) with the subject
line "FAQ".  When making a correction/suggestion, please quote the section
you are correcting -- the document is quite large and I'll have a hard
time finding the section otherwise.

Thanks,
Debbie

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 09:05:49 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: WORLDS: day 2, men AA

(Women in a few minutes)

From USAG:

1995 World Gymnastics Championships
Sun Dome, Sabae, Japan
3 October 1995

Men's Individual standings after day 2 of compulsories
5 teams remaining to compete

Compulsory exercises              AA

  1. Li Xiaoshuang, CHN        56.987
  2. Hikaru Tanaka, JPN        56.800
  3. Daisuke Nishikawa, JPN    56.661
  4. Yoshiaki Hatakeda, JPN    56.512
  5. John Roethlisberger, USA  56.500
  6. Jordan Jovtchev, BUL      56.412
  7. Nistor Sandro, ROM        56.337
  8. Lee Joo-Hyung, KOR        56.287
  9. Zoltan Supola, HUN        56.275
10=. Zhang Jinjing, CHN        56.237
10=. Yuri Chechi, ITA          56.237
 12. Toshiharu Sato, JPN       56.125
 13. Krasimir Dounev, BUL      55.987
 14. Jin-Soo Jung, KOR         55.975
 15. Huang Liping, CHN         55.962
 16. Li Donghua, SUI           55.962
 17. Patrice Casimir, FRA      55.876
 18. Adrian Ianculsecu, ROM    55.850
 19. Jair Lynch, USA           55.800
 20. Boris Preti, ITA          55.800
 21. Nicu Stroia, ROM          55.787
 22. Yoon-Soo Han, KOR         55.487
 23. Blaine Wilson, USA        55.425
 24. Andrei Kratsov, AUS       55.312
 25. Jesus Carballo, ESP       55.250
 26. Szilvester Csollany, HUN  55.225
 27. Dimitar Lunchev, BUL      55.175
 27. Cristian Leric, ROM       55.175
 29. Kristen Burley, CAN       55.150
 30. Michael Engeler, SUI      55.092
 31. Jiri Firt, CZE            54.825
 32. Travis Romagnoli, CAN     54.775
 33. Sebastian Tayac, FRA      54.450
 34. Peter Schmid, CAN         54.375

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 09:24:27 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: WORLDS: day 2, women, team & AA

1995 World Gymnastics Championships
Sun Dome, Sabae, Japan
3 October 1995

Women's Team standings after day 2 of compulsories

Compulsory exercises
   1 Romania                         192.570
   2 United States                   191.722
   3 China                           190.819
   4 Ukraine                         189.033
   5 France                          187.483
   6 Belarus                         185.893
   7 Hungary                         184.745
   8 Japan                           183.430
   9 Greece                          182.857
  10 Canada                          181.907
  11 Bulgaria                        180.196
  12 Brazil                          178.807
  13 Uzbekistan                      177.695
  14 South Korea                     177.419
  15 Israel                          176.621
  16 Czech Republic                  168.357

Women's Individual standings after day 2 of compulsories
(After six of nine groups)
Compulsory exercises

   1 Gina Gogean                  ROM         38.799
   2 Shannon Miller               USA         38.699
   3 Mo Huilan                    CHN         38.687
   4 Lavinia Milosovici           ROM         38.650
   5 Lilia Popkopayeva            UKR         38.562
   6 Dominique Moceanu            USA         38.536
   7 Alexandra Marinescu          ROM         38.374
   8 Jaycie Phelps                USA         38.337
   9 Andrea Cacovean              ROM         38.299
  10 Simona Amanar                ROM         38.298
 11= Svetlana Bouguinskaia        BLR         38.012
 11= Kerri Strug                  USA         38.012
  13 Laetitia Begue               FRA         37.987
  14 Oxana Chousovitina           UZB         37.862
  15 Qiao Ya                      CHN         37.824
  16 Claudia Presecan             ROM         37.786
  17 Irina Boulakhova             UKR         37.550
 18= Elvire Teza                  FRA         37.549
 18= Anna Nirgorodskaia           UKR         37.549
  20 Ludivine Furnon              FRA         37.537
  21 Adrienn Nyeste               HUN         37.536
  22 Vasiliki Tsavdaridou         GRE         37.461
  23 Svetlana Zelepoukina         UKR         37.374
  24 Yelena Piskun                BLR         37.361
  25 Isabelle Severino            FRA         37.324
  26 Risa Sugawara                JPN         37.251
  27 Soraya Carvalho              BRA         37.199
  28 Meng Fei                     CHN         37.074
  29 Yanling Mao                  CHN         37.049
  30 Lambrini Apostolidou         GRE         36.949
  31 Miho Apostolidou             JPN         36.874
  32 Eszter Ovary                 HUN         36.824
  33 Olga Yurkina                 BLR         36.649
  34 Jennifer Exaltacion          CAN         36.574

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 09:40:20 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: British competitors

| Subject:      British competitors
|
| Thanks Rachele for all your hard work in providing the results
| from Sabae.  Just one question - where are the Brits?! Have they not
| competed yet, or are they just doing so badly that no-one's
| mentioning them?!

Thanks for the thanks, Bex!  Thanks to USAG for sending them to me!

Brits: Both teams are competing on day 3.

I will provide as much detail as I have about the American, British,
Canadian, and Australian teams for men and women, since there are a
significant number of Gymn subscribers in those countries. Also I will
provide details of the top teams (naturally)

If anyone wants info on a particular competitor or country that are
not one of the above, then please let me know via direct email about
your interest.  If it's not too overwhelming for me, I will
"spotlight" additional teams/people.  But remember, I do have a
full-time job so I may not be able to answer every email.

Rachele

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Date:    Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:17:22 BST
From:    ***@IC.AC.UK
Subject: Re: British competitors

> Just one question - where are the Brits?!

The Brits, along with a few others such as Russia and Australia,
are competing today.

> Also, does anyone over here know whether BBC or ITV are planning
> to screen ANY of it, even in highlights? Or even the satellite
> channels?

As far as I know, the BBC aren't showing any. ITV hadn't shown
any gym for years. The reason I 've been was because the FIG
had raised the price for gymnastics TV coverages and they don't
think it's worth it anymore. But who knows, if our British team
do really well, you may still yet see some highlights on
Grandstand or something.

The German satellite channel DSF *are* showing it, in fact,
they're showing it live and have devoted over * 32 hours *
of airtime broadcasting the event. This includes live broadcast
in early mornings plus evening highlight programmes. you will
find DSF on channel 21 on the "normal" satellite receivers, or
to be more exact on frequency 11523 H.

Here is the DSF schedule for the Sabae Worlds coverage as listed
in "TV and Satellite Weekly" magazine:

Fri 6th October:
08:30 to 13:30
22:00 to 23:00

Sat 7th October:
00:55 to 01:55
07:25 to 13:30
20:00 to 22:00

Sun 8th October:
06:00 to 09:00
20:00 to 22:00

Mon 9th October:
07:00 to 10:00
20:00 to 21:15

Tue 10th October:
06:30 to 09:30
16:00 to 17:00
23:00 to 00:00

There are additional broadcasts after the 10th October, but I guess
they are just repeated showings.

Happy viewing.

Sherwin


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