GYMN-L Digest - 1 Apr 1996


There are 9 messages totalling 668 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

1. TV COVERAGE
2. PRO COMPETITION, ZMESKAL, BOGI
3. Big Ten's Event Finals (m)
4. Amy Chow's bars mount? (2)
5. Undelivered mail
6. April Gymn Calendar
7. Amy Chow's bar mount, SHERWIN HELP!
8. Reese's International

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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:14:31 -0600
From: ***@SCOTT.NET
Subject: Re: TV COVERAGE

My TV didn't have it on...I was very disappointed!

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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:18:40 -0500
From: ***@ZEUS.TOWSON.EDU
Subject: Re: PRO COMPETITION, ZMESKAL, BOGI

I want to comment on the professional competitions. If they want
to be a success, they have to worry more about gymnastics and less about
entertainment. I went to the International Gymnastics Cup in Baltimore
in 1994, and last year in Portland. After watching this year, I think
they need to change. This entertainment gymnastics should be in
exhibitions, not the competitions. Gymnastics should follow skating's
lead by making professional gymnasts strive for grace and a mature look.

Just my thoughts,
Mikester Bee

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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:23:36 -0500
From: ***@PHARM.MED.UPENN.EDU
Subject: Big Ten's Event Finals (m)

1996 Big Ten Men's Gymnastics Championships
Columbus, OH
March 30 - 31, 1996

Event Final's

Floor Exercise
Jay Thornton (Iowa) 9.90
Joseph Roemer (PSU) 9.65
J-M Michel (PSU) 9.625
Chris Harrington (Minn) 9.60
Neil Niemi (OSU) 9.60
Frank Ansevin (OSU) 9.60
Ron Roeder (PSU) 9.40
Steve McSparren (PSU) 9.30
Roy Malka (PSU) 9.25

Pommel Horse
Drew Durbin (OSU) 9.90
Blaine Wilson (OSU) 9.80
Greg Gebhardt (Iowa) 9.70
Michael Finn (OSU) 9.70
Ethan Sterk (MSU) 9.65
Jason Krob (Minn) 9.575
Michael Morgan (OSU) 9.25
Aaron Cotter (Iowa) 8.85
Tim Elsner (OSU) 8.60
Doug Stibel (OSU) 7.55

Rings
David Eckert (OSU) 9.925
Blaine Wilson (OSU) 9.90
Chad Finefrock (OSU) 9.65
Aaron Cotter (Iowa) 9.65
Yuval Ayalon (Ill) 9.625
Jay Thornton (Iowa) 9.55
Heath Wall (Minn) 9.55

Vault
Jay Thornton (Iowa) 9.60
Travis Rosen (Iowa) 9.45
Jonathan Becker (MSU) 9.40
Tim Lauring (Mich) 9.35
Steve McSparren (PSU) 9.35
Tim Elsner (OSU) 9.30
Neil Niemi (OSU) 9.30
Chris Harrington (Minn) 9.20
Michael Morgan (OSU) 9.20

Parallel Bars
Jay Thornton (Iowa) 9.80
Drew Durbin (OSU) 9.75
Blaine Wilson (OSU) 9.725
Michael Morgan (OSU) 9.60
Joe Duda (MSU) 9.60
Roy Malka (PSU) 9.55
Hugh Lau (Iowa) 9.55
George Beatty (Minn) 9.30
Ryan Carns (Minn.) 9.05

High Bar
Blaine Wilson (OSU) 9.95
Aaron Cotter (Iowa) 9.875
Jay Thornton (Iowa) 9.80
Chad Finefrock (OSU) 9.80
Greg McGlaun (Ill) 9.775
Roy Malka (PSU) 9.70
Tim Elsner (OSU) 9.625
Ethan Sterk (MSU) 9.525

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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:44:04 -0700
From: ***@ASU.EDU
Subject: Amy Chow's bars mount?

The latest issue of IG says Chow's added "a mind-blowing new uneven bars
mount which she debuted in January." What is this skill? Is it
mind-blowing, or is that description just hype? The only mount I
can think of that was mind-blowing was by a Russian in '89 event
finals (memory fading, so please bear with me if this description
is not accurate) who did something like a roundoff, arabian flip
over the low, catch the high bar. Or maybe I just imagined it.:)
Actually, come to think of it, very few gymnasts have a bars mount that I
think of as exciting (like Kim Kelly's roundoff, back dive catch the low
bar skill) or even just unusual (Henrietta Onodi's full twist before the kip.)
so I don't even care if the description is hype. Anything that isn't a kip or
a straddle over the low is something to talk about. Hope to see it soon.

Leslie

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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:28:13 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Undelivered mail

In a message dated 96-03-31 23:13:58 EST, you write:

>In a message dated 96-03-31 22:57:22 EST, you write:
>
>>The only mount I
>>can think of that was mind-blowing was by a Russian in '89 event
>>finals (memory fading, so please bear with me if this description
>>is not accurate) who did something like a roundoff, arabian flip
>>over the low, catch the high bar. Or maybe I just imagined it.:)
>
>I believe that this would be Natalia Laschenova. I think that it was her
who
>beat Christie Henrich with a 9.975 to a 9.95. I have a pretty good memory,
>but this could be a mistake.
>
>

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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:42:57 -0500
From: ***@YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: Amy Chow's bars mount?

On Sun, 31 Mar 1996, creepygirl wrote:

> The latest issue of IG says Chow's added "a mind-blowing new uneven bars
> mount which she debuted in January." What is this skill? Is it
> mind-blowing, or is that description just hype? The only mount I
> can think of that was mind-blowing was by a Russian in '89 event
> finals (memory fading, so please bear with me if this description
> is not accurate) who did something like a roundoff, arabian flip
> over the low, catch the high bar. Or maybe I just imagined it.:)

No, you didn't imagine it; it's been done. For the record, the skill was
done at least as early as about 1982 (an American by the name of
Brumbaugh--I forget her first name [Julianne, maybe? Anyone know who
I'm talking about?]--was doing it back then. Unless my memory's getting
creative on me :). Anyway, one of my favorites is Gurova's RO,
full-twisting ff to handstand on low.

:)
Adriana

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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:56:44 -0700
From: ***@PRIMENET.COM
Subject: April Gymn Calendar

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Featuring 105 events and 376 days of gymnastics!

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R - Rhythmic gymnastics O - Other
T - Trampoline & Tumbling G - General gymnastics
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April 1996

Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30

5-7 Wild Rose Invitational (W)/ MacEwan College, Edmonton, Alberta
6 Budget Rent-A-Car Invitational (MW)/ Miami, FL
NOTE: USA v. France
6-7 Team University Champs. of France (MWR)/ Nantes, France
12-14 NAIGC Championships (MW)/ Oxford, OH
12 NCAA Regionals (W)/ Penn State (Northeast)
12-14 USAG Region VII Championships (M)/ Int'l Gymnastics School,
Stroudsburg, PA
NOTE: email igs111@postoffice.ptd.net, (717) 629-2767
13-14 French Rhythmic International (R)/ Thiais, France
13 NCAA Regionals (W)/ UCLA (West), Florida (Southeast), Baton
Rouge (Central), Utah (Midwest)
13 NCAA Regionals (M)/ Iowa City, IA (East); Lincoln, NB (West)
13-14 Portugese Rhythmic International (R)/ Portimao, Portugal
15-21 Artistic Apparatus World Championships (MW)/ San Juan, Puerto
Rico
18-20 USAG Collegiate Championships (MW)/ Seattle, WA (Seattle Pacific
University)
20 BROADCAST: 1996 World Champs. Event Finals (W)/ ABC, 4:30 PM EDT
20-21 JO Championships (R)/ Maryland
21 BROADCAST: Budget Rent-A-Car Invit. (MW)/ 1:00 PM EDT, CBS
21 USAG Collegiate Nat'l Invit. Tournament (MW)/ Cape Girardeau, MO
25-27 NCAA Nationals (W)/ Tuscaloosa, AL
25-28 Western Canadian Championships (MW)/ Vancouver, B.C.
26-27 NCAA Nationals (M)/ Palo Alto, CA
27 BROADCAST: 1996 World Champs. Event Finals (M)/ ABC, 4:30 PM EDT
27-28 Federal Champs. of France (MW)/ Dunkerque-Grand Synthe, France
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May 1996

Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31

2-5 Junior Olympic Nationals (Jr & Sr) (W)/ Duluth, GA
3-5 Romanian International (MW)/ Poliesti, Romania
4-5 Eastern Open (R)/ Macon, GA
7-11 Canadian Natl. Trampoline & Tumbling Champs. (T)/ Calgary,
Alberta
9-12 Men's European Championships (M)/ Broendby, Copenhagen, Denmark
10-12 JO Championships (M)/ Tulsa, OK
10-12 Team University Championships of France (MW)/ Rodez, France
11-12 Corbiel-Essonnes International (R)/ Corbeil, France
11-12 Western Open (R)/ Seattle, WA
16-19 European Championships (W)/ Birmingham, England
16-19 U.S. Classic (W)/ TBA
18-25 European Sport School Games (MWR)
18-19 Federal Testing Championships (MW)/ Rodez, France
18-19 French International Group (R)/ Lievin, France
25-26 U.S. Gymnastics Festival (W)/ TBA
26-28 Rhythmic DTB Pokal (R)/ Karlsruhe, Germany
28-6/1 Canadian National Championships (MW)/ Sault St. Marie, Ontario
29-6/2 Rhythmic European Champs. (R)/ Oslo, Norway
31-6/2 U.S. Rhythmic National Championships (R)/ Athens, GA
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June 1996

Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30

1-2 Team Championships of France (MW)
5-10 Canadian National Championships (R)/ Montreal, Quebec, Canada
5-8 Coca-Cola U.S. National Championships (MW)/ Knoxville, TN
7-9 French Rhythmic Championships (R)/ Thiais, France
8 BROADCAST: U.S. Nat'l Champs. (MW)/ 4:00 PM EDT, NBC
9 BROADCAST: U.S. Nat'l Champs. (MW)/ 3:00 PM EDT, NBC
15 BROADCAST: 1996 Women's European Champs. AA (W)/ ABC, 4:30 PM EDT
15-16 French Cup Finals (MW)/ Nantes, France
15-16 French Cup Finals (R)/ Lille-Lomme, France
15-16 Yorkshire Gymnastics Spectacular (G)/ Halifax, England
NOTE: For info, email to M.Greenwood@lmu.ac.uk
18-19 Elite Qualifiers (M)/ Various Sites
21-23 Rhythmic World Championships (R)/ Budapest, Hungary
22 BROADCAST: 1996 Women's European Champs. EF (W)/ ABC, 4:30 PM EDT
22-23 Grand Prix of Gymnastics (G)/ Epernay, France
25-26 U.S. Olympic Team Trials (R)/ Wang Center, Boston, MA
NOTE: Contact: Bob Colarossi, phone 617-443-4909
URL: http://rainbow.rmii.com/~rachele/files/1/
pr1_us_olympic_trials.txt
26-30 YMCA National Women's Championship (W)/ Toledo, OH
27-30 U.S. Olympic Team Trials (MW)/ Fleet Center, Boston, MA
NOTE: Contact: Bob Colarossi, phone 617-443-4909
URL: http://rainbow.rmii.com/~rachele/files/1/
pr1_us_olympic_trials.txt
29-7/1 Men's National Clubs Competition (M)/ Canberra, ACT, Australia
29 BROADCAST: U.S. Olympic Trials (M)/ 4:00 PM EDT, NBC
29-7/1 USAG Congress (O)/ Boston, MA
30 BROADCAST: U.S. Olympic Trials (W)/ 2:00 PM, 7:00 PM EDT, NBC
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July 1996

Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31

9-13 Rhythmic Classic Clubs Competition (R)/ Brisbane, QLD, Australia
13 Pre-Olympic Exhibition (M)/ Greensboro, NC
15-29 Olympics Artistic Competition (MW)/ Georgia Dome, Atlanta, GA
URL: http://www.atlanta.olympic.org
15-18 Podium Training
20 Men's Compulsories (M)
21 Women's Compulsories (W)
22 Men's Optionals (M)
23 Women's Optionals (W)
24 Men's All-Around (M)
25 Women's All-Around (W)
28 Event Finals: Men's FX, PH, SR, Women's V, UB
29 Event Finals: Men's V, PB, HB, Women's BB, FX
27-28 70th FIG Congress (O)/ Atlanta, GA
28-8/3 USSAF National Champs. (A)/ La Sierra, California
NOTE: Contact Roger McFarland 909-785-2293
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August 1996

Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31

1-4 Olympics Rhythmic Competition (R)/ U. of GA, Athens, GA
URL: http://www.atlanta.olympic.org
1 Individual Preliminaries, Group Preliminaries
2 Individual Preliminaries, Group Finals
3 Individual Semifinals
4 Individual Finals
12 Gymn's Fourth Anniversary (O)/ n/a
URL: http://rainbow.rmii.com/~rachele/gymnhome.html
15-17 Women's National Clubs Champs. (W)/ Adelaide, SA, Australia
16-27 Xth Paralympic Games (MWR)/ Atlanta, Ga.
TBA Post Olympic Tour (USA) (MWR)/ TBA
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September 1996

Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30

5-8 Commonwealth Bank Aussie Gymfest (?)/ Taree, Australia
25-28 National Levels Champs. (?)/ Brisbane, QLD, Australia
30-10/7 IFSA World Champs. (A)/ Riesa, Germany
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October 1996

Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31

9-13 UEG Congress (O)/ Tel Aviv, Israel
11-12 International Tournament of Gymnastics (MWR)/ Orleans, France
17-20 World Aerobic Championships (O)/ La Haye, France
19-20 Octoberfest Invit. (W)/ Apollo School of Gym., Clearwater, FL
TBA National TOP Testing (W)/ TBA
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November 1996

Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

4-11 FIG Intercontinental Judge's Course (W)/ Athens, GA
12-17 Pacific Alliance Championships (?)/ Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
15-17 French Championships (?)/ TBA
22-27 FFG Congress (O)/ Paris, France
22-24 Swiss Cup (MW)/ Saalsporthalle Zuerich, Zurich, Switzerland
23-30 FIG Intercontinental Judge's Course (MW)/ Lahti, FIN
29-12/1 DTB Cup (MW)/ Schleyer-Halle Stuttgart, Stuttgart, Germany
30 International Jr. Match GBR/GER/SUI/FRA (?)/ TBA
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December 1996

Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31

3-9 PAGU Jr. Champ. and Congress (MWR)/ Guatemala City, GUA
7-8 French Federal Championships (R)/ TBA
8-15 FIG Intercontinental Judge's Course (M)/ Seattle, WA
14-15 French Interzone Cup (?)/ Clermond Ferrand, France
TBA National TOP Team Training Camp (W)/ TBA
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January 1997

Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31

4-7 Pacific Gymfest (G)/ Hamilton, New Zealand
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August 1997

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3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31

13-16 USA National Championships (MW)/ TBA
14-17 USAG Congress (O)/ TBA
31-9/7 World Championships (MW)/ Lausanne, Switzerland
31-9/12 World University Games (MWR)/ Sicily, ITA
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September 1997

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1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30

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Fall 1997


TBA World Championships (R)/ Munich or Berlin, Germany
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July 1998

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5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31

25-8/9 Goodwill Games (MWR)/ New York, N.Y.
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August 1998

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2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31

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TBA 1998


TBA FIG Congress (O)/ Lisbon, Portugal
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Summer 1999


TBA World University Games (MWR)/ Palma de Mallorca, ESP
TBA XIIIth Pan American Games (MWR)/ Winnipeg, Manitoba, CAN
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TBA 1999


TBA World Gymnaestrada (G)/ Goteborg, Sweden
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September 2000

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3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

16-10/1 Games of the XXVIIth Olympiad (MWR)/ Sydney, AUS
URL: http://www.sydney.olympic.org/
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October 2000

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8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31

21-11/1 XIth Paralympic Games (MWR)/ Sydney, AUS
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November 2000

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5 6 7 8 9 10 11
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19 20 21 22 23 24 25
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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:59:26 -0600
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: Amy Chow's bar mount, SHERWIN HELP!

1) A good description of Amy Chow's bar mount can be found in the March
IG issue, in the article about the Reno Challenge. If this is as whacked
as it sounds, I want to see it!

2) Sherwin, please email me, I need to talk to you. Thanks

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:07:16 -0500
From: ***@UKY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET
Subject: Re: Reese's International

>The Reese's International was shown here in Denver, CO at the appropriate
>time on CBS. Although, I don't know his name, the man who won first
all-around was a Russian guy who coaches in
>Florida. (I think)

Dimitri Bilozerchev. I agree with Peter Vidmar's comment. Dimitri is my
candidate for greatest male gymnast ever. With all due respect to Vitaly
Scherbo, Dimitri's career was over a much longer period and being able toi
come back from that car wreck and dominate again is simply incredible.

>He pretended to be baby on the rings. Chris Waller did a
>great high bar routine while dressed up as the "Riddler" from the movie
>Batman Forever. He got a 10.00 for it. Rothlisberger (sp?) did the tango
>with a dummy strapped to his chest for floor pretending to be the "Mask".

Roethlisberger. He did a similar routine last year, and I liked it then too.


>I think it was Scott Keswick who did the Rings dressed up as Mickey Mouse. His
>ears fell off, though. Ouch!

This was Scott's first "competition" after his recovery from the back
surgery. He looked great considering that. I had hoped they would show
Chris Waller's FX so we could see Scott steal Cindy Waller away! How about
that Cindy?

>Another man from CO, I can't remember his
>name, put on a skull mask type thing and took off his shirt for the rings.
> He did amazing strength moves. He went into a left iron cross, the a right,
>then a straight all in a row!

Paul O'Neill. Paul is a specialist - he does nothing except SR. Again I
find myself agreeing with Peter Vidmar's comment. For his size, Paul has to
be one of the strongest men on the planet! He certainly showed that on one
of the longest, strongest routines I've ever watched. When he crossed his
leg during the cross, I laughed at Peter's comment - "Yeah, he's just
rubbing it in for those of us who can't do that!" Right Pete! I noticed
your crosses were always so poor!

While in a straight iron cross (I'm not sure
>if that's what it's called, that trick is very far in the future for me) he
>crossed his legs and tapped his foot in the air impatiently to give the
>impression that it was very easy to do and he was bored. He held it for a
>substantial amount of time. It was really amazing! Another man was dressed
>as Superman for the raised bar and it was pretty cool.

Bill Roth. It's nice to see Bill completely well and uninjured!

>But it was a great competition! I wish there were more like it!

I agree. It's great for these "old" athletes to have a forum to show
they've still got it! It's also nice to see them having so much fun with
their sport. I think you'll see some more of these exhibitions.

Comments from other posts talked about the scores being too high. I think
Cindy Waller was right - it's entertainment. Also, I don't think the judges
had many guidelines, so it was probably pretty difficult for them to score.
You know, the old "apples and oranges" thing.

I love to watch major competitions and watch those hard tricks being thrown;
but, I think there's room for this type of competition too. From TV, it
looked like a good sized crowd.

Chris

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