GYMN-L Digest - 23 Jul 1995 to 24 Jul 1995
There are 17 messages totalling 724 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Fan mail
2. Nevada gymnasts to watch for in 2000 (2)
3. US Classic Placings
5. No Zmeskal at US Classic?
6. Used Equipment (3)
7. Beam Dream
8. GER Natls. EF
9. Classic Report #1
10. World University Games Trial Results?
11. German Womens Nationals EF
12. European Youth Olympics
13. GBR/ROM/FRA Junior girls
14. What are some of these moves?
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 00:37:12 -0400
Subject: Fan mail
A while back I sent fan mail to Miller and Zmeskal, but I didn't
have good address info and I think those letters were for naught. One of my
old HS teachers who runs a gym sent a request for info on Shannon down the
line and I got that autographed postcard/fact sheet that Helen Crewe
mentioned. A few months ago (this time with the right address) I sent mail
to Zmeskal and Boginskaya at Karolyi's, but I'm still waiting for a reply.
As for fan mail in general, I'd have to say that the time it takes would
probably depend on who it is and how famous they are. Pro sports people
might reply in six months, probably not personally, but they usually have
more PR help. Or something like that...
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 21:52:42 -0700
Subject: Nevada gymnasts to watch for in 2000
Nancy and everyone else,
Here is my list of NV gymnasts to watch for that are training for
the 2000 Olympics.
Stormie Soto-10 yrs old
Taeya Boyack-10 yrs old
Jodi Maxwell-10 years old
These three train at Spence Gymnastics here in town.
Gymcasts West has the following:
1.Tasha Schwikert-11 yrs old
2.Jordan " "-9 yrs old the above's sister
3.Kari Dye-13 yrs old
Las Vegas Flyers:
1.Kacey Oiness- 11 yrs old Level 10
2.Lindsay Hayes-10 yrs old Level 9-10
3.Jacqueline Coatsworth-13 yrs old Level 10
Unfortunely, Jacqueline has been off and on injured in the past year and
hasn't competed much.
Has anyone heard of this girl? Her name is Tiffany Vasquez and she is 12
and her coach said she has been to Nationals already. Help and I hope
you enjoy my coverage of NV gymnasts as they go for the gold in 2000.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 02:29:12 -0400
Subject: US Classic Placings
I attended the meet and here are the placings for Sr. International
4.Mary Beth Arnold
20.Chrissy Van Fleet
Yes,those *ARE* the correct placings!There were loads of scratches.I'll write
more about the meet tomorrow.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 03:30:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Diaz
>Olympic Festival on the West team and was training at Cypress Academy. In a
USA Gymnastics issue she said that her dad lived in Puerto Rico for his job
and they live seperatly so she could train. In different meets I have heard
that she was from Guatemala, Puerto Rico, and Peru. I was just wondering.<
If I have this straight, Eileen was born in Puerto Rico and lived there for a
few years before moving. Her father has remained in PR throughout, as far as
I know, and has been around the gymnastics scene since at least 1991 (which
was when I first met him; I believe he told me Eileen was at Dynamo back
then, but maybe I don't remember correctly). I know the idea that she might
compete for PR had been floating around since that time, but the decision was
finally made last year. I'm also under the impression that gymnastics was
not the reason they moved, although I can't say that I know for sure, and for
all I know it could be the reason they've stayed? I'll try to find out more
when I go home in a couple of weeks. The business about her being from Peru
you might have come from the Pan Am results, where the AP (I think) kept
listing everyone from Puerto Rico as being from Peru.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:06:26 -0400
Subject: No Zmeskal at US Classic?
I haven't been writing on the listserv. for a while, but lurking instead.
Sorry if this is going to the wrong place, but I have no idea what has
happened to my gymn. guide.
At any rate, I didn't see Zmeskal's name on the US Classic list. Did she
scratch? Does this mean that she can't go to Nationals now?
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 07:21:03 -0700
Subject: Re: Nevada gymnasts to watch for in 2000
> Has anyone heard of this girl? Her name is Tiffany Vasquez and she is 12
> and her coach said she has been to Nationals already. Help and I hope
> you enjoy my coverage of NV gymnasts as they go for the gold in 2000.
Tiffany Vasquez is 12 years old and trains at Desert Gymnastics,
(formally The Desert Academy of Artistic Gymnastics), in Las Vegas.
She has been to Nationals twice and is currently training at the
international Elite level.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:25:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Used Equipment
I just thought that I would let everyone know that I am also in
the market for used equipment. We are expanding our gym and
moving into the Elkton, Md. area in September. I am mainly
interested in matting (there is no such thing as too many mats)
but will not overlook a good deal on apparatus (men's or
women's). I can be reached at 302-292-1444.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:15:00 -0700
Subject: Beam Dream
It seems there are quite a few parents of gymnasts out there. I wrote this
poem last year to capture the drama from not only up on the Beam, but also
out in the crowd.....
THE BEAM DREAM
High above the matted floor,
And balanced on the narrow beam.
Stands a young and graceful girl,
Determined to live her dream.
Crowds clap and cheer from the stands,
Floor routine music is loudly playing.
The young girl stares straight ahead,
She hears nothing of what others are saying.
The mother watches from her seat,
Hands held tight against her chin.
The daughter takes a courageous leap,
One she had to make to win.
Mom tries to divert her anxieties,
And admires her daughter's bow.
The gymnast stares forward,
And dances ahead on toe.
Dad holds his head against the camera,
He's his daughter's biggest fan.
She concentrates intensely,
And stands upon her hands.
Her little brother doesn't notice much,
Except the Snickers bar he gobbles.
She lands her forward tumbling series,
Without even a bobble.
Dad is shaking nervously,
Later on the video you'll see.
But close examination of the gymnast,
Reveals she's as poised as one can be.
The mother's eyes are watering,
She finds a tissue in her sack.
The daughter holds her chin up high,
and begins her tumble back.
"She made it!....She made it!",
Her little brother would scream,
The gymnast flashes a smile,
She's living out her dream.
Mom and Dad's eyes meet,
As the warning bell rings out.
She appears almost hypnotic,
Preparing to dis-mount.
Little brother intensely watching now,
Hands inside the popcorn bucket.
Mom and Dad are hugging now,
"She stuck it!....She stuck it!"
A proud salute to the judges,
Followed by hugs from her team.
This beautiful young girl,
Has fulfilled one small dream.
Copyright 1994 Mark Anderson
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:31:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Used Equipment
First off apologies, to anyone not interested. This is not an
advertisement, just a personal endorsement. I would have responded
by E-Mail to the two requests, but I thought there may be more
people interested then those two.
Earlier this year I had to outfit our gym with both some new
and used equipment. I found an excellent, but relatively unknown
supplier in Ben Edkins. Ben owns a gym in Cary, N.C. and also
runs a gymnastics supply company, called Carolina Gym Supply
Corp. It's a very small company (3 or 4 employees) but he deals
with a lot of used equipment, designs and manufacturers his own
mats. Depending on what is available at the time, used equipment,
mats and such can be had for very reasonable prices. I don't have
the address with me, but the phone # is
Their catalog only lists new equipment, so you have to ask specifically
about pre-owned items.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:11:44 -0400
Subject: GER Natls. EF
Some very brief results from the event finals at the GER Nationals...
Yvonne Pioch (SC Berlin) won all 4 event finals. The last gymnast to win
5 golds at the GER Natls. was Uta Schorn in 1973. Pioch is coached by
Steffen Godicke and Angelika Hellmann.
Kathleen Stark, the oldest competitor at age 20, finished 2nd on V and FX
and 3rd on UB and B.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:21:34 -0400
Subject: Classic Report #1
Sr. International Optionals
Jaycie Phelps (FX)-Great leaps and choreography.She stood up the double front
easily along with her double twisting front and two and a half twist punch
front(instead of her usual triple full.)9.8
Heidi Harriman(UB)-Shushunova and a floating Tkachev.9.35
Dominique Dawes(V)-1 and 1\2 twisting yurchenko.Stuck the first one(10.00)
and took a hop on the second.
Kristy Lichey(FX)-Floor music-"The Devil Went Down to Georgia".Stuck both her
double layout and full in but was low on her layout front punch front tuck(I
think it was supposed to be another layout or possibly a full.)9.075
Liz Reid(V)-Sat down first yurchenko half and took a step on her second.Nice
position in the air. 9.65
Monica Flammer(UB)-Went the wrong way on an uprise and fell on her
shushunova.Stuck double layout.She nailed everything in warmups,so it's
unfortunate she didn't hit it in competition.She competed beam in the next
round,but ended up scratching floor and vault. 8.5
Amy Chow(V)-She cranked two double twisting yurchenkos(loose in the legs and
piked_ with steps on both. 9.75(too high)
Jessica Rieland(FX)-Double lay mount and full in dismount. 9.3
Mary Beth Arnold(UB)-Big markelov(better than Khorkina's) and tight double
Andrea Pickens(UB)-Lightning fast toe on front with 1 and 1\2 twist
Jamie Martini(BB)-fell on layout mount. 8.775
Dominique Dawes(UB)-Caught Hindorff nicely.Went for the 1 and 1\2 pirouette
but it ended up a giant full so she went for it again and made it(and got an
extra D.) 9.825
Liz Reid(UB)-My favorite routine of the competition.Stalder reverse
hect(smooth) and neato combination of Stalder hop endo,immediate jam
dislocate,two inverts,double front dismount(small hop.)Awesome.Just a
*little* loose in the knees throughout the routine. 9.7
Amy Chow(UB)-usual routine(cool stalder shaposhnikova).She is beginning to
tighten her legs up so that's good to see.Step back on her double double.
Andrea Pickens(BB)-two flighty layouts,front(tiny wobble),and two back
handsprings to cowboyed double back. 9.25
Monica Flammer(BB)-double pike dismount. 9.4
Jamie Martini(FX)-fell on full in mount. 8.675
Mary Beth Arnold(BB)-fell on her layout mount and later on her punch
front.Needs to tighten up her legs and have more extension on her leaps.Toes
pointed double tuck. 8.225
Jaycie Phelps(V)-peformed two different vaults.Layout tsuk with 1\2 twist and
handspring front with 1\2 twist.In warmups was *attempting*(and I stress that
word)a handspring front with a full twist. 9.9
Liz Reid(BB)-Layout mount(instead of her usual layout-layout-back pike) and
an omelianchik,pirouette to reverse planche(the crowd loved this).Fell on her
arabian back handspring stepout(Onodi) and got off the beam with two power
flip flops to 2 1\2 twist. 8.95
Andrea Pickens(FX)-double twisting front for second pass.Clean landings on
every pass. 9.575
Mary Beth Arnold(FX)-Fab dance.Groovy whip thru to full in(step out)mount but
almost put a hand down on her closing triple full.
Jaycie Phelps(UB)-Caught both of her releases.Minor leg breaks and an ugly
double front(cowboyed and feet flexed.) 9.775(too high)
Dominique Dawes(BB)-Wobbled on her double turn which she nails about as often
as Keswick catches his Kovacs(which is hardly ever!)She needs to take it
out.Keen switch leg immediate switch side.Much to the crowds
disappointment(and I'm sure Dom's) she didn't get enough rotation on her full
in dismount and ended up on all fours. 9.2
Amy Yound(UB)-*HUGE* yaeger from inverts.Female equivalent to Charles Lake's.
Deidre Grahm(BB)-Cartwheel swing thru layout immediate half turn. 9.1
Amy Shelton(UB)-Two hop fulls to Tkatchev(she warmed up a piked but straddled
it in competition) along with a Nadia flip(zero amplitude although its higher
than *ANY* of Gogean's releases) 9.025
Kristy Lichey(BB)-fell on a front flip.Nice COMPLETED popa.step on double
Mary Beth ARnold(V)-Hristakieva(small hops on both) 9.675
Chrissy Van Fleet(FX)-Crisp dance,great choreography,and wicked cool leotard.
Jaycie Phelps(BB)-Nailed her three layouts.wobbled and touched the beam on
her new split jump immediate front. 9.5
Marissa Medal(UB)-Clean yaeger and reverse hect.Double lay dismount. 9.5
Dominique Dawes(FX)-usual floor set. 9.85
Liz Reid(FX)-Original handspring,front full,bounder,rudi.Fell on her closing
front full punch front.I liked her old choreography better. 9.075
PS.Kim Z. and Dominique were no-shows.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:10:55 -0700
Subject: World University Games Trial Results?
I think someone said that the World University Games trials were being
held at the same place/time (well, days anyway) as the Classic. Does
anyone have results and/or observations? I'd appreciate anything you
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 00:42:45 BST
Subject: German Womens Nationals EF
German Womens Nationals 1995 Event Finals
1. Yvonne Pioch 9.575
2. Kathleen Stark 9.475
3. Rufina Kreibich 9.350
=4. Gabi Weller 9.275
=4. Kim Buhlow 9.275
6. Angelika Schatton 9.075
1. Yvonne Pioch 9.700
2. Stefanie Pimpert 9.125
=3. Angelica Schatton 9.100
=3. Kathleen Stark 9.100
=5. Rufina Kreibich 9.000
=5. Cindy Klemrath 9.000
1. Yvonne Pioch 9.700
2. Nadja Ziehfreund 9.450
3. Kathleen Stark 9.100
4. Cornelia Trost 8.900
5. Rufina Kreibich 8.750
6. Kim Buhlow 8.700
1. Yvonne Pioch 9.575
2. Kathleen Stark 9.500
3. Nadja Ziehfreund 9.200
4. Kathrin Kuhnert 9.100
5. Rufina Kreibich 9.050
6. Angelika Schatton 8.225
- Yvonne Pioch, the young 15 year old, made it five gold medals out of five
as she won all four apparatus to add to her All-Around title. She is a
very powerful girl for her age. She was so much better than the others
that it will be a major blow to Germany's hopes if she couldn't make the
team to Sabae (see Debbie's post regarding Germany's age restrictions)
- 19/20 year old Kathleen Stark was second most successful. She really does
look like an athlete in the athletics field...
- Last year's champion Rufina Kreibich was very disappointing with mistakes
- Julia Stratmann, one of the current leading German gymnasts, had broken
her foot a while back in training and is doubtful for the Sabae Worlds.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 19:56:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Used Equipmen
> First off apologies, to anyone not interested. This is not an
> advertisement, just a personal endorsement. I would have responded
> by E-Mail to the two requests, but I thought there may be more
> people interested then those two.
> Earlier this year I had to outfit our gym with both some new
> and used equipment. I found an excellent, but relatively unknown
> supplier in Ben Edkins. Ben owns a gym in Cary, N.C. and also
> runs a gymnastics supply company, called Carolina Gym Supply
> Corp. It's a very small company (3 or 4 employees) but he deals
> with a lot of used equipment, designs and manufacturers his own
> mats. Depending on what is available at the time, used equipment,
> mats and such can be had for very reasonable prices. I don't have
> the address with me, but the phone # is
> FAX 919-932-1548
> Their catalog only lists new equipment, so you have to ask specifically
> about pre-owned items.
Just a hearty hear! hear! for Ben Edkins with Carolina Gym
outfitted quite a bit of my gym in Virginia with help from Ben.
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 02:38:18 BST
Subject: European Youth Olympics
European Youth Olympic Days Bath, England July, 1995
Bits of results have already been posted but here is a more
complete version. This meet is a Juniors Olympics for the
European nations and it included competition for girls only.
1. Russia 78.061
2. Ukraine 77.187
3. Romania 76.635
4. France 75.336
5. Great Britain 74.785
6. Italy 74.661
7. Spain 74.336
(There were 31 teams altogether, 3 gymnasts on each apparatus
with 2 scores to count)
1. Eugenia Kusnezsova (RUS) 39.049
2. Mirela Tugurlan (ROM) 38.811
3. Ljubov Sheremeta (UKR) 38.762
4. Svetlana Bachtina (RUS) 38.687
5. Oksana Liapina (RUS) 38.686
6. Camelia Andronic (ROM) 38.462
(Sonia Lawrence of Great Britain was 11th out of 36)
Kusnezsova took golds on vault and bars, Tugurlan took gold on
beam and Andronic won the floor.
- Information provided by Sarah Baldwin of _Gym Stars_ magazine
posted by Sherwin, with thanks to Sarah
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 02:39:04 BST
Subject: GBR/ROM/FRA Junior girls
Britain v Romania v France Juniors Women 1995
This meet took place a while ago in early July in Ashford, England.
1. Romania 187.950
2. Great Britain 185.800
3. France 185.575
1. Alina Lautaru (ROM) 37.825
2. Jenny Cox (GBR) 37.800
3. Aurelia Gheba (ROM) 37.750
4. Nicoleta Onel (ROM) 37.575
=5. Sonia Lawrence (GBR) 37.325
=5. Orelie Troscompt (FRA) 37.325
Great Britian actually beat Romania on beam (!!) and floor, although
the general feeling was that the British girls were overscored on
beam. Britain were easily weakest on bars.
- Information provided by Sarah Baldwin at _Gym Stars_ magazine
posted by Sherwin, with thanks to Sarah
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:28:08 -0400
Subject: What are some of these moves?
As a recent subscriber and a parent of a new gymnast (7 yrs old, < 1 year in
gymnastics). She competed level five and will compete level six in the fall.
I was wondering if anyone here is willing to explain or point me to an
explanation of some of these moves. I want to know more about what they are
teaching my daughter to do...She is firm in her level six skills and is now
learning progressions to more advanced skills for level eight optionals...but
I do not know what the final product is.
I have seen many names of different moves but would not know the name by the
move and a descriptive list would be great as well as what move usually goes
Thanks in Advance
End of GYMN-L Digest - 23 Jul 1995 to 24 Jul 1995