GYMN-L Digest - 16 Apr 1995 to 17 Apr 1995

There are 12 messages totalling 281 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Balance Beam & Pommel Horse
2. response to NCAA trivia
3. USA College Nationals
4. Bela as judge (2)
5. Summer Camps
6. US men's team
7. Nadia on TV (2)
8. for all you folks with the code (2)
9. USA College Nationals (Texas)

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 23:19:23 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Balance Beam & Pommel Horse

Hey gang,

I'm just finishing up my balance beam/pommel horse trivia quiz, and could use
a few more questions, especially on pommel horse. Anything at all to do with
beam or horse!

Deadline is Wednesday at 5pm. Please send all questions via private e-mail.

:-)

Mara

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 23:19:27 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: response to NCAA trivia

Adrienne suggested:

>3) this is a forum to discuss things-do we really need to fill our boxes
with pointless trivia that only 2-3 people reply to anyway!

For our newer subscribers, IMHO, the lack of interest has come from our
recent topics.

I felt obligated, due to the interest of some individuals, to include the
NCAA trivia quizzes. Unfortunately, there seems to be extremely minimal
interest among the overall Gymn membership in these.

As we head back into 'elite' gymnastics topics for trivia, I expect we'll see
the higher level of participation that we're used to. I'd also love to hear
suggestions for trivia topics.

One I've been thinking of, since we'll soon be on Trivia Quiz #30 is 'Older
Competitors.' Any opinion?

Mara

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 08:32:58 -0400
From: ***@MHC.MTHOLYOKE.EDU
Subject: Re: USA College Nationals

I know there was a big story about TWU in the Dallas Morning News
today. One of their gymnasts, Becky Faulkner, won floor with a 9.775.
Apparently the local ABC station did a piece on their program just a few
weeks ago - how it's really taken off this year.
- You can thank my mother for these bits of information, as I
don't really follow college gymn that much.

-Emily

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:42:58 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Bela as judge

I dont know if anyone saw the rock and roll iceskating championship on Fox on
Sunday. Bela Karyoli was one of the celebrity judges. When showing
highlights from the prelims, Scott Hamiton yelled "Hey Bela" then he did his
back ariel on the ice. It was pretty funny. It was also the first time I've
seen him in a suit and tie.

Anne

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:05:39 EDT
From: ***@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Summer Camps

Lake Owen is a great summer camp. I spent two summers there as
a junior counselor when I was in high school. There were top level
coaches from all over the country and great equipment. The thing that
makes Lake Owen stand out is the other things it has besides gymnastics.
It is located in the woods on a nice lake with a beach. They had a
boat for water-skiing, boat for intertubing, canoeing, and wind-surfing.
They had all the things of a "normal" summer camp in addition to
great gynastics.

Chris

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:47:24 EDT
From: ***@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: US men's team

Billy wrote
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What was this about the women getting more respect than the men.The US
women
are at a much higher level internationally than the men are.Almost all
the
women from the US team have routines that start in the 9.8-10.00
range.There
aren't many from the men's that start that high.Why doesn't someone
tally the
medals that the men have won since '84 and compare them to the
women's.There's your answer right there!
------

You can't use scores to compare the men's and women's teams
the scoreing systems are too diffrent. Women's scoreing is higher
than men's. In the '94 world championships Ivan Ivankov won with a
57.012, Shannon Miller won with a 39.274. Ivan averaged a 9.5 and
Shannon a 9.8. In women's the 16th place person had a 9.5 average.

The US women's team is at a higher level internationally, not because
they have higher scores than the men, but because they are placing
higher.

Chris

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:23:16 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Nadia on TV

Did anyone else see the ABC special, "A Passion to Play," yesterday? It was
about Nadia and Katerina Witt, but most of the Nadia info was taken from the
Nadia special from last month. Next week's special is called "The
African-American Experience," and I THINK Dominique Dawes will be on--they
show her picture in the promo.

Ann Marie

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 13:39:00 PDT
From: ***@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: for all you folks with the code

Heya.. is the Zuchold (?) still in the code for Uneven Bars. I think
thats what it was called. Dagmar Kersten did one in Seoul. Its like
a straddle back to the low bar but its piked and rotates back instead
of forwards? I havent seen one in a while but I think they're cool.
Does anyone do one now?


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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:08:34 -0400
From: ***@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: Nadia on TV

> Did anyone else see the ABC special, "A Passion to Play," yesterday? It was
> about Nadia and Katerina Witt, but most of the Nadia info was taken from the
> Nadia special from last month. Next week's special is called "The
> African-American Experience," and I THINK Dominique Dawes will be on--they
> show her picture in the promo.
>
> Ann Marie
>

Yeah, I saw it. I thought it was pretty interesting. They did have some
additional footage that wasn't in the Nadia special last time. What I
thought was cool was that they use the same belts we do to teach skaters
their jumps. I always sort of wondered how they taught them.

:)
Adriana

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:11:45 -0400
From: ***@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: Bela as judge

I didn't see that, but on Saturday (I think), I saw the exhibition
performances from some pro skating meet, and Usova and Zhulin did theirs
to the same music Mitova used. Does anyone know the name and/or
composer? I thought Mitova's interpretation was better.

:)
Adriana

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:03:16 -0400
From: ***@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: for all you folks with the code

On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, Brett wrote:

> Heya.. is the Zuchold (?) still in the code for Uneven Bars. I think
> thats what it was called. Dagmar Kersten did one in Seoul. Its like
> a straddle back to the low bar but its piked and rotates back instead
> of forwards? I havent seen one in a while but I think they're cool.
> Does anyone do one now?

Yes, it's still in there. There are several varieties of this skill that
depend on how you start and whether or not you end in a handstand (or
even let go of the bar at all). They are all "Schleurden"s because that
refers to the dislocate part of it. The one you're thinking of that ends
in a handstand is a Zuchold-Schleurden and a D. Haven't seen anyone do
it since '88 (Maria Ines Flores of Guatemala did it too, but I don't
think she quite hit a handstand). The bars are so wide now that it might
actually be worth the D it's rated.

:)
Adriana

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 21:16:30 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: USA College Nationals (Texas)

Hi
Here are the scores as promissed straight from the score sheet:

Team (colleges) Club
1 William And Mary 220.275 1 UCLA 224.8
2 USAF 216.95 2 Arziona 220.15
3 Springfield 203.6 3 Washington 206.3
4 South. CT 194.4 4 Miami Dad 191.95
5 Vermont 183.35
6 MIT 178.4

All-Around Colleges Club
1 Neal Beau USAF 53.8 1 Steve Mccain UCLA 57.175
2 Jeff Hittner W&M 53.2 2 Marty Larsen Airzona 55.7
3 Ben Smith USAF 52.1 3 Jim Foody UCLA 55.57
4 Scott Mccall W&M 52.0 4 Sinaisky Nunez Miami 55.3
5 Mike Comeau Spfg 51.85 5 Rob Kjar Arizona 54.5
6 Josh Brady SPFG 51.65 6 Mike Denucci UCLA 54.1

EVENT FINALS
FLOOR PH
1 Neil Furuno UCLA 9.575 1 Rob Kjar ASU 9.6
2 Kyle Johnson ASU 9.55 2 Barry Jeung UCLA 9.55
3 Brian Rizzoli USAF 9.5 3 Sebronzik Wright W&M 9.55
4 Doug Macy UCLA 9.45 4 Mike Denucci UCLA 9.4
5 Glenn Mauri Spfg 9.4 5 Shane Roy W&M 9.4
6 Steve Mccain UCLA 9.375 6 Nate Quinn ASU 9.35

RINGS Vault
1 Scott Mccall W&M 9.7 1 Sebronzik Wright W&M 9.6
2 Sinaisty Nuez Miami 9.675 1 Steve Mccain UCLA 9.6
3 Paul Davee W&M 9.575 3 Kyle Johnson ASU 9.45
4 Jim Foody UCLA 9.45 4 Sinaisty Nunez Miami 9.35
5 Steve Mccain UCLA 9.45 5 Doug Macey UCLA 9.25
6 Ben Auzenne W&M 9.45 6 Marty Larsen ASU 9.2

Parallel Bars HB
1 Jim Foody UCLA 9.6 1 Jim Foody UCLA 9.6
2 Marty Larsen ASU 9.35 2 Beau Neal USAF 9.45
2 Ben Auzenne W&M 9.35 2 Chad Silva USAF 9.45
4 Greg Umphrey UCLA 9.3 4 David Cobb USAF 9.3
5 Earl Campbell Soth 9.1 5 Kirk Johnson ASU 9.25
6 Sinaisty Nunez Miami 9.05 5 Rob Kjar Asu 9.25

Peace - Enjoy
Carl - :o)

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