GYMN-L Digest - 14 Jun 1995 to 15 Jun 1995
There
are 8 messages totalling 261 lines in this
issue.
Topics of the day:
1. _Little Girls..._ (2)
2. Training for adult gymnasts (2)
3. after
college (3)
4. 1995 Medico Cup
RSG
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 00:14:59
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From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
_Little Girls..._
So guess what?
The Chronicle (for which Joan Ryan writes) is printing three
excerpts from her book.
It looks like they'll all be about Julissa,
maybe
the last one about Christy H. too. The first one just sets up the
beginning
of Julissa's
story, and it mentions Christy in passing when it says Julissa
moved to Al Fong's gym from Karolyi's. Question: I'm almost positive Julissa
was at other gyms
besides Karolyi's and Al Fong's (I didn't even know
she'd
gone to Fong's gym [is it GAGE?]. I forget the name of the gym, but I
think
it was in Houston. Anyone know which one and when she was
there?
:-)
Adriana
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 01:06:42
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From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
Re: _Little Girls..._
Who is Julissa anyway
I have never heard of her? Was she a recent gymnast and
what
happened to her?
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 11:52:02
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From: ***@PERFIT.ZKO.DEC.COM
Subject:
Re: Training for adult gymnasts
Texx
writes:
>"Well you are outta college
so now you are outta luck!
>Now go have kids, stay in the stands, and
send us lotsa money.
>You want to compete after college
?
>Are you outta your mind ?
>Now
shut up, go away and send us more money!"
Boy, it has taken me a
real long time to compose what I want to say concerning
this. Everytime I'd
write something down, I'd reread it and delete it, and
rewrite
and delete, etc.
I have to agree that it would be nice if there was
interest on the part of the
USGF to foster a
"geriatric" gymnastics program. But, I'd be interested in
knowing how many after-college-age people would actually
participate. After
college, most people get jobs that occupy most of their
time. Some have
girlfriends or boyfriends; relationships take up a lot of
time. Sometimes they
get married, have kids, and this occupies *more* of their
time. Now I know that
this is not always the case, but once you are out of school,
your life
definitely changes.
Why should
the USGF fund a program like this, when (in my opinion) a *very*
small percentage of the after-college-age people would
actually participate?
Is there some reason why they could not participate
in a currently sanctioned
program? Like the 33 year old
woman competing at level-8 (very admirable), I'd
think
that there would be some program around where one could work out and
compete. Of
course, it would be sort of awkward competing with kids a lot
younger than yourself, but if someone *really* want to
compete, they should go
for it.
If it's
just recreational gymnastics that you want, there are lots of gyms
that would allow you to work out there. All it takes is money. There are even
master's
meets going on around the country for those adventurous types who
could actually put a routine together. When I graduated from college
(1981),
UMass had an annual alumni meet where the alumni would compete
against the
current squad. I competed a couple years after
graduation. I never worked
out,
but was able to throw a somewhat watered-down
"thing" together. Over
the years
the amount of participation of the
alumni dwindled, and now there is no alumni
meet. It's just a "show" put on by
the UMass team that alot of the alumni goes
to. There's
always one or two older guys who'll throw something together, but
that's it.
Maybe we could possibly give the USGF
some credit and say that they've already
done a
study on sponsoring a master's program, and found virtually no interest.
It
could happen. :)
Steve
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:46:06
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From: ***@ENG.SUN.COM
Subject:
after college
hmmmm,
regarding there not being interest in
participating/competing
in gymnastics after
college...
I don't
see any reason why gymnastics couldn't
end up
going the same route as say...
road racing, track
& field, swimming, softball,
body building,
volleyball.
there seems to be lots of
participation in those
sports by us geriatric
crowd with jobs, children,
and
responsibility. geez,
just recently I
read in the HOME section of the
San Fran paper
that home owners are remodeling
their existing
homes or expecting new homes with
separate rooms
or areas for exercising (along with
"great rooms"
-combo
kitchen/dining/family rooms- and
home
offices).
some of the above sports have
master's programs,
like road racing, track &
field, and swimming..
and there're probably more
that I don't know
about. But the other sports have lots of
recreational participants.
;-) Didn't you know
that's why we push our kids
to get into
sports? Sooo
we can have the time
for ourselves to workout in
our own sports. ;-)
During my daughter's 2 hour
workout, I can get
in a 4-6 mile run, 30 minutes
of weight training,
20 minutes of stationary biking, and stretching.
ok. so i
don't do that much every time, but
certainly some
portion of it. And I don't
think
I much of an exception. I know people
who walk,
do stairmaster,
aerobics, yoga, martial arts, ski -
and they're
not all "dinks" (double income no kids).
ruth.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 11:35:43
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From: ***@ENG.SUN.COM
Subject:
Re: after college
Gymnastics is an incredibly rigorous sport and our
society by contrast
is rather sedentary. It's one thing to go shoot a few baskets
or take up
running for exercise. By contrast, however, I think that the
thought of
training in gymnastics, especially by
someone over 18 that has never done
it before,
well, that's pretty rare, and would scare the bejesus out of
someone normal.
Looking at the profile of the
members at the UC Gymnastics club, very few
people
that stick with it come in off the street that haven't done gymnastics
before, most for a high school or college team. They pretty much know what
they're doing and don't need much instruction, just a place
to work out. For
those that do need instruction there is an experienced coach
two nights a week.
Aside from that there's usually somebody around that's
been on a team that
can help you out or spot you.
The club is embarrassingly cheap and easily
accessible
to a large community (SF North Bay Area).
At most we have about
30 members a semester,
probably half being regular.
For a while it bummed
me out that the club
was so small, but in retrospect this is probably steady
state
and I doubt if the club will ever get much bigger than this.
The
members that have been on high school or college teams have pretty much
competed as much as they care to compete and just come in
for the fun of
doing gymnastics, although there
are meets available. I think
they're fun
because I've never competed
before. If I'd competed in college,
though, I
don't know how exciting they would
be. There are other novices like
myself
that train and go to meets, but it takes a
lot of work, and most people,
unlike myself I
guess, already have a life!
-George
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 12:46:50
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From: ***@HARRIER.SASKNET.SK.CA
Subject:
1995 Medico Cup RSG
Hi,
These results are a bit ancient (did
someone post them awhile back? I don't
recall.)
1995
MEDICO CUP RSG
APRIL 22-23, 1995
FELDKIRCH, AUSTRIA
AA - 1. Lukyankenko 39.500
2. Serebrianskaya
39.325
3. Zaripova
39.150
4. Ogrizko
39.075
5. Vitrichenko 38.825
6. Batyrchina 38.775
Rope - 1. Serebrianskaya
9.900
Ball - 1t Zaripova 9.900
2. Ogrizko
9.875
1t Serebrianskaya 9.900
3. Lukyanenko 9.850
3. Lukyanenko 9.775
4. Vitrichenko 9.800
4. Gateva
9.750
5. Gateva
9.725 5.
Stadnik
9.725
6. Zaripova 9.700
6. Gontar
9.750 (9.650?)
7.
Frater
9.575
7. Batyrchina 9.650
8. Batyrchina 9.550
8. Frater
9.500
9. Schielin 9.400
9. Schielin 9.300
Clubs - 1. Ogrizko
9.900
Ribbon - 1. Vitrichenko 9.850
2. Lipovksaya 9.825
2t Lukyanenko 9.800
3. Serebrianskaya 9.775
2t Salapatiska 9.800
4. Salapatiska 9.750
4. Lipovskaya 9.775
5. Gateva
9.725
5. Batyrchina 9.700
6. Vitrichenko 9.725
6. Serebrianskaya 9.675
7. Zaripova 9.675
7. Gontar
9.600
8. Lukyanenko 9.650
8. Frater
9.550
9. Schielin 9.250
9. Schielin 9.300
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DORY
--- the guy from Canada
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:55:36
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From: ***@PERFIT.ZKO.DEC.COM
Subject:
Re: after college
Ruth writes:
>I don't see any reason why
gymnastics couldn't
>end up going the same
route as say...
>road racing, track &
field, swimming, softball,
>body building,
volleyball.
First of all, there's a "cost" factor to
consider. It doesn't take much
money
to do road racing, track & field,
swimming, softball, body building, volleyball,
etc. Gym equipment, insurance, instructors,
etc. are very expensive.
Second of all, there's a "danger"
factor. Although I am probably
in
better *physical* shape (not including
flexibility; that's gone! :) ) than I
was when I
was competing, there's no way you could get me to go out and throw
a double back now (trampoline maybe - but not on the
floor). Again, there's not
much danger in any of the sports that you mentioned.
I'm
not saying that "older" people don't or shouldn't exercise. I'm just
saying
that there's alot more to consider with gymnastics
when it comes to
sponsorship than there is with
other sports. Alot
more.
Steve
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 15:58:22
-0500
From: ***@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject:
Re: Training for adult gymnasts
>I have to agree that it would be
nice if there was interest on the part of the
>USGF to foster a
"geriatric" gymnastics program.
But, I'd be interested in
>knowing how
many after-college-age people would actually participate.
I'd probably
give it a whirl _if_ competing all around were not required.
I'd love to
work up a beam routine for competition.
In fact, I'd guess
that, with a lot of
practice, I could perform a better, if less difficult,
routine now than I did when I stopped competing
in '81. _But_ I wouldn't
want to try to put together an uneven bars routine with my
weak wrists, and
I don't know whether my back could handle floor or
vault.
Didn't the USGF sponser a masters
program years ago?
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