GYMN-L Digest - 10 Mar 1995 to 11 Mar 1995

There are 13 messages totalling 326 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. San Diego Events this weekend?
  2. Pan Am Compulsories Question
  3. calendar update for March only
  4. gymnast defense
  5. Pan Am: more Q&N
  6. Cuba
  7. Pan Am Games:  Men's Team Opt Results
  8. Nadia special
  9. Figure Skating
 10. Pro-Meet
 11. Pan Am: Men's Ind. rankings
 12. Reese's Cup
 13. H-front w/full turn


Date:    Fri, 10 Mar 1995 20:21:47 +0100
From:    ***@MAIL.CTS.COM
Subject: San Diego Events this weekend?

If anyone knows of, or has a schedule regarding a gymnastics event in San
Diego this weekend- Please email to: ***

Thanks in advance...

(We'll send a report if we can find it.)



Date:    Fri, 10 Mar 1995 23:24:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Pan Am Compulsories Question

> At Santiago '91, they used watered-down compulsories.  Are they doing that
> here also?
> Mara

I assume so because a watered-down version does exist.



Date:    Fri, 10 Mar 1995 23:40:10 +0600
From:    ***@SCOTER.CDEV.COM
Subject: calendar update for March only

Here is an update to the gymn calendar for March only. It contains
a few Canadian events that I just learned about via e-mail.

   March 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
          1  2  3  4
 5  6  7  8  9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31

4-19            Pan American Games/ Mar Del Plata & Buenos Aires, Argentina
8-11            Messe Cup/ Hannover, Germany
11              BROADCAST Reese's Int'l Gymn. Cup/ ABC, 4:30-6:00PM EST
TBA             BROADCAST U.S. Winter Cup Challenge (M)/ TBA
17-18           CIAU University National Championships (M/W)/ Calgary, Alberta
18              BROADCAST International Mixed Pairs/ NBC, 2:30-4:00PM EST
18-19           British Sports Acrobatics Championships/ King's Lynn
24-26           Perfogym Invitational (M)/ Montreal, Quebec
25-26           British Rhythmic Championships/ Bletchley
25-26           Peter Vidmar Int'l Invit'l/ Westwood, CA
31-4/2          Gymnix International (W)/ Montreal, Quebec


Date:    Sat, 11 Mar 1995 02:50:50 -0700
From:    ***@ASU.EDU
Subject: Re: gymnast defense

> Perhaps Gene and Ann Marie should see a copy of the Mogilny?

Rah rah the Mogilny is cool


Date:    Sat, 11 Mar 1995 09:14:24 -0700
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Pan Am: more Q&N

More Quotes and Notes, from UPI

-- Today, March 11th, is the first official day of the 12th Pan Am
Games.  Opening ceremonies are 4 hours after the conclusion of the
men's team final.

-- Seems like Romina Plataroni's birthday is actually the same day's
as Miller's (March 10), not the day before.

-- Men's team finals were listed with three different starting times,
depending on the schedule that you read: 10am and 1pm, 11a and 2p, or
10a and 3:30p.  The first set is right.  (EST)

-- Miller's "I just did." (when asked how she'd celebrate her birthday
after team prelims) was nameed Quote of the Day by UPI.

Amanda Borden: "Our goal was to build the scores as we went along. We
want the scores to keep going up."

-- UPI reports that "Kristen Risen" (Kristy Powell) is in 6th.  There
was also a reference to Katie Teft as "Katie Neft" a couple days ago
-- not sure which press wire that was, though.

-- AP says that no US gymnast finished below sixth, which I am
confused about.  What about either Doni Thompson or Mary Beth Arnold?
My only guess is that Doni was supposed to compete and MBA be the
alternate, but for some reason Doni couldn't compete and it was too
late to sub in Arnold?  (Btw, for those interested, Mary Beth Arnold
replaced Dominique Moceanu because it was junior-replace-junior,
senior-replace-senior with regards to the rankings from the American
Classic.  Jaycie Phelps, despite being ranked 8th, was passed over
because Dominique was a junior and so they selected a junior to
replace her, and Arnold was next in line -- 9th overall, but 4th for
the juniors.)

-- AP also says that Miller lead every event in compulsories.

Miller: "Everybody kept building on it. Everyone was really pulling
for each other out there." ; "Even now I still have little errors to
work on. I definitely have room to improve." ; "We're trying to come
together as a team. It's harder than, say, basketball, to be an actual
team, but we're trying."

Nunno: "This is the start of forming team unity, which is something we
haven't done before. This gold will be carried on to Japan for the
world championships in the fall and then to Atlanta for the Olympics."



Date:    Sat, 11 Mar 1995 12:14:00 PST
From:    ***@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Cuba

Cuba is without a doubt my favorite mens team.  They never play it safe.
They have enough originality and style for 3 teams, and their performance
in Montreal was just the greatest.  It was 6 guys throwing outrageous
stuff and hitting mostly.  They truly understand that the sport is
artistic gymnastics and that sometimes presentation is appreciated
and rewarded.

Even just in the area of floor exercise scales, Cuba shows originality
and style.  In 1985 Israel Sanchez did a scale that belongs in the
Museum of Modern Art and Felix Aguilera (who has stunning handstands
but no toepoint, oh well) used to do a y-scale, then let go of his leg
and lean all the way forward, his leg never dropping.  Jesus Rivera did
something similar and if you've ever seen Raul Menendez's Y-scale, just
sheer beauty.

They truly understand that gymnastics is more than hitting moves.


Date:    Sat, 11 Mar 1995 16:00:05 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Pan Am Games:  Men's Team Opt Results

Here are the final team results from Men's Pan Ams from the AP



1, United States (Mihai Bagiu, Albuquerque; Steve McClain, Missouri City,
Texas; John Roethlisberger, Minneapolis; Bill Roth, Philadelphia; Kip Simons,
Columbus, Ohio; Chainey Umphrey, Albuquerque; Chris Waller, Albuquerque),
551.150 points. 2, Cuba (Erick Lopez, Lazaro Lamelas, Damian Merino, Felix
Aguilera, Yoel Gutierrez, Francisco Diaz, Abel Driggs), 550.900. 3, Canada
(Travis Romagnoli, Alan Nolet, Kristan Burley, Peter Schmid, Jason Hardabura,
Richard Ikeda, Jason Papp), 546.100. 4, Argentina, 524.550. 6, Mexico,
521.600. 7, Puerto Rico, 512.100. 8, Brazil, 507.150.


Date:    Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:45:51 -0500
From:    ***@WINNIE.FIT.EDU
Subject: Nadia special

The TV special about Nadia's return home to Romania will be on ABC at
4:30 PM EST next Saturday (April 18th).



Date:    Sat, 11 Mar 1995 18:12:47 -0500
From:    ***@TIGER.HSC.EDU
Subject: Figure Skating

I know this is not gymnastics related, but does anyone know if they showed
skating this weekend?  If they did, does anyone have a tape of it?
I got the Reeses stuff (comments later), but I thought skaing was on, too.



Date:    Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:31:52 -0600
Subject: Pro-Meet

Hi everyone,

My ABC station had NCAA b-ball so I missed the first segment of the meet.
(Or was that nation-wide?)  Did I miss anything?

I hate pro meets ... that wasn't gymnastics, I'm sorry.

Bogie can still REALLY move ... wow.

Not much else to say (unless I get really nasty...)




Date:    Sat, 11 Mar 1995 16:51:11 -0700
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Pan Am: Men's Ind. rankings

(I forgot that gymansts are competing with the 7-6-5 rule -- which
must be why neither Arnold nor Thompson showed up on the women's
prelim list.)

1995 Pan American Games
Mar Del Plata, ARG
March 11, 1995

Individual results -- after the team competition

1, John Roethlisberger, U.S., 112.450
2, Erick Lopez, Cuba, 112.100
3, Lazaro Lamellas, Cuba, 109.650
4, Kristan Burley, Canada, 109.000
5 (tie), Travis Lawrence Pomagnoli, Canada and Mihai Bagiu, U.S., 108.500
7, Damian Merino, Cuba, 108.350
8, Stephen McCain, U.S., 107.750
9, Peter Schmid, U.S., 107.550
10, Victor Colon Ortiz, Puerto Rico, 107.250
11, Alan Nolet, Canada, 107.000
12, Isidro Ibarrondo, Argentina, 106.750
13, Albert Umphrey, U.S., 106.050
14, Felix Aguilera, Cuba, 105.600
15, Diego Lisandro, Puerto Rico, 105.500
16, Marcelo Palacio, Argentina, 104.300
17, Eduardo Haro, Mexico, 104.100
18, Andres Sanchez, Mexico, 103.650
19, Gabriel Chevere, Puerto Rico, 102.900
20 (tie) Sebastien Alvarez, Argentina, and Jose Solano, Mexico, 102.550
22, Marco Montiero, Brazil, 101.050
23, Gustavo Pisos, Argentina, 100.200
24, Fabricio Olsson, Brazil, 100.050
25, Jose Mario Marzagao, Brazil, 99.750.
26, Carlos Latorre, Puerto Rico, 97.450
27, Milciades Santiago, Dominican Republic, 97.300
28, Alexander Rangel Pineda, Colombia, 96.900
29, Manuel Bejarano, Venezuela, 96.750
30, Leonardo Gonzalez, Colombia, 96.400
31, Eric Saavedra, Chile, 96.00
32 (tie), Victor Solorzano, Venezuela, and Juan Carlos Colon Robles, Puerto
 Rico, 92.650
34, Enrique Trabanino, El Salvador, 91.300
35, Sean Grosvenor, Barbados, 81.050


Date:    Sat, 11 Mar 1995 19:23:36 EST
From:    ***@MIT.EDU
Subject: Reese's Cup

Oh man, was I disappointed to realize that the Reeses Cup was
"professional" gymnastics.  But as it turned out, it wasn't so
bad (read, not as bad as the first time I saw pro gymn).

But what does it mean to be a professional, and how does Dom M.
fit in?



Date:    Sat, 11 Mar 1995 21:58:26 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: H-front w/full turn

To All:
    I need help from all of you. At the University of Florida women's
collegiate gymnastics meet against Alabama and Kentucky Friday, there was a
spectactular vault.
    Kentucky's Jenny Hansen through a handspring-front tuck with a
full-twist. She nailed it and earned a 10.
    Afterwards, the coaches were saying she is only the second gymnast in
history to throw that vault (the other being the originator of the vault). In
my story that I'm going to write, I'm going to say that Hansen is "believed
to be" only the second in history to throw it.
     Tell me, does anyone know of anybody else throwing this vault? And a
question to the judges on Gymn: who originated this vault?
     Thanks, everyone.
--- Ronald


End of GYMN-L Digest - 10 Mar 1995 to 11 Mar 1995