GYMN-L Digest - 6 May 1995 to 7 May 1995

There are 8 messages totalling 348 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Atlanta Tickets
  2. New Topic.
  3. Spanish translation opportunity
  4. Cottbus Grand Prix (Day Two)
  5. Supersport
  6. Olympic time schedule
  7. Li's Vault?
  8. dream team


Date:    Sat, 6 May 1995 23:09:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Atlanta Tickets

> When ordering tickets in the ticket brochure for compulsories and team
> optionals there are two sessions.....i guess you have no idea what
> team or athletes you will get to this correct...i.e. do the
> best teams perform in the second session for optionals...i know for
> compulsories all team members dont compete in the same
> least that is how it was in Barcelona...

The highest-placing teams from compulsories compete in the last session
of optionals.  I don't know how compulsories will be scheduled, since
they switched back to teams competing together in Dortmund (IMHO a
mistake -- now entire teams will be stuck with lousy early-session scores,
instead of spreading the lousy scores around to all the teams).



Date:    Sun, 7 May 1995 00:38:15 EDT
From:    ***@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: New Topic.

moves named after people

Tong Fei(3)  Floor: butterfly with full twist
                  :double side flip straddled
           Pommel Hores: loop 1/2 across the full length
                        of the horse

Yamawaki(3)  Pommle horse: circle hop full length of horse
           Rings: double front with out letting go of the rings
           P-bars:  back uprise 5/4 front to upper arms

Li Ning(4) Pommel Horse:  flair half turn  between pommels
                        : Scissor to handstand
           Rings:  the move that I know as a german uprise
                 :  from support, fall back, german uprise


Date:    Sun, 7 May 1995 09:01:23 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Spanish translation opportunity

This is from the forum on USAGO!:

Hola amigos! !Requiero ayuda!

USA Gymnastics is going to offer a version of _Technique_ magazine in
the Spanish language. The current plan is to offer this publication on
a quarterly basis.

This will be provided to Spanish speaking countries as well as made
available to USAG Spanish speaking members in the U.S.

USAG will provide space in the publication for "official" information
and notices from the Pan American Gymnastics Union (PAGU).

I need to find someone willing to work on this project who is fluent in
Spanish and fully familiar with gymnastics terminology who can:
>  assist in translating previously published _Technique_
>  assist in the preparation of PAGU information (this will
   already be in Spanish, but will need to be typed into MSW),
>  proof-read final layouts before we take each issue to print.

I am seeking someone fluent in Spanish and fully familiar with
gymnastics terminology. This person can work from home, but the
following considerations are important:

1. Access to a fax machine
2. Ability to provide fully formatted text files in Microsoft
   Word including all appropriate accents that can be "placed"
   directly into Pagemaker for layout. (These can be sent on
   diskette or uploaded on Delphi.)
3. Willingness to work on this project in a timely manner to
   meet publication deadlines.

USAG will pay for this assistance.

If YOU are interested (or know someone who might be qualified) please
fax (371-237-5069), email (Delphi address: USGF; Internet address:, or snail-mail (USGF, Pan American Plaza, Suite 300,
201 S.  Capitol, Indianapolis, IN 46225) the requested information to
Steve Whitlock.

You can address telephone inquires to Steve Whitlock, 317-237-5050 x 236.

Please include the following information:
1. Resume
2. Proposed translation fees for:
   > Translating various articles
     (English->Spanish and Spanish->English)
   > Inputting (typing) Spanish documents into Microsoft Word
   > Proofreading
3.  Other considerations...

NOTE: For those who make my final selection list, I will ask that you
provide a sample translation of an article that I provide.


Steve Whitlock


Date:    Sun, 7 May 1995 19:16:31 BST
From:    ***@IC.AC.UK
Subject: Cottbus Grand Prix (Day Two)

Cottbus Grand Prix 1995, 29/30 April   (Part Two)


Mens Vault

 1. Grigori Misutin             (UKR)   9.593
 2. Alexei Nemov                (RUS)   9.545
 3. Vitaly Scherbo              (BLR)   9.537
 4. Ralf Buchner                (GER)   9.518
 5. Ivan Ivankov                (BLR)   9.506
 6. Jorden Jovtchev             (BUL)   9.450
 7. Valeri Belenky              (GER)   9.362
 8. Evgeni Chabaev              (RUS)   9.187


 1. Grigori Misutin             (UKR)   9.581
 2. Alexei Nemov                (RUS)   9.574

Womens Beam

 1. Svetlana Khorkina           (RUS)   9.800
 2. Dina Kochetkova             (RUS)   9.737
 3. Oksana Fabrichnova          (RUS)   9.637
 4. Yelena Piskoun              (BLR)   9.437
 5. Oksana Chusovitina          (UZB)   9.250
 6. Pavla Kinclova              (CZE)   9.162
 7. Liliya Podkopayeva          (UKR)   9.112
 8. Rufina Kreibich             (GER)   8.500


 1. Svetlana Khorkina           (RUS)   9.637
 2. Dina Kochetkova             (RUS)   9.350

Mens Parallel Bars

 1. Rustam Charipov             (UKR)   9.637
 2. Valeri Belenky              (GER)   9.575
 3. Igor Korobchinsky           (UKR)   9.550
 4. Uwe Billerbeck              (GER)   9.450
 5. Sergei Kharkov              (RUS)   9.425
 6. Alexei Nemov                (RUS)   9.350
 7. Evgeni Podgorni             (RUS)   9.275
 8. Vitaly Scherbo              (BLR)   8.600


 1. Rustam Charipov             (UKR)   9.700
 2. Valeri Belenky              (GER)   9.587

Womens Floor

 1. Liliya Podkopayeva          (UKR)   9.800
 2. Yelena Piskoun              (BLR)   9.687
 3. Svetlana Khorkina           (RUS)   9.650
 4. Oksana Fabrichnova          (RUS)   9.587
 5. Oksana Chusovitina          (UZB)   9.512
 6. Irina Evdokimova            (KAZ)   9.350
 7. Dina Kochetkova             (RUS)   9.287
 8. Adrienn Nyeste              (HUN)   8.975


 1. Liliya Podkopayeva          (UKR)   9.825
 2. Yelena Piskoun              (BLR)   9.700

Mens High Bar

 1. Ivan Ivankov                (BLR)   9.700
 2. Aljaz Pegan                 (SLO)   9.650
 3. Vitaly Scherbo              (BLR)   9.575
 4. Oliver Walther              (GER)   9.487
 5. Evgeni Chabaev              (RUS)   9.200
 6. Ralf Buchner                (GER)   8.975
 7. Zoltan Supola               (HUN)   8.900
 8. Karsten Oelsch              (GER)   8.775


 1. Ivan Ivankov                (BLR)   9.762
 2. Aljaz Pegan                 (SLO)   9.712


- I thought overall the scorings were quite harsh, especially since the
  scores have been escalating in recent meets. But anyway the placings
  were about right.

- The young Russian Evgeni Podgorni had an interesting dismount off the
  parallel bars: a double front salto with half-twist. He only got 9.275
  for his efforts though.

- Vitaly Schebo was visibly struggling throughout the meet, a few steps
  off the dismount on the parallel bars today, although he did quite well
  on the high bar.

- Sergei Kharkov was unexpectedly here, but only on the parallel bars.

- When Rustam Charipov was on the parallel bars, his coach was there
  actually holding one end of the bars for him WHILE HE IS PERFORMING.
  I thought that is not allowed? (Or at least a deduction?) He won the
  event in the end.

- Evgeni Chabaev continued his poor meet, finishing last on the vault when
  he saw down on his second attempt. He was fifth in the high bar though.

- Dina Kochetkova still had her right ankle bandaged and she again landed
  on her knees in her final tumble on floor (full-in back-out). Dina is a
  redhead this time and Oksana Fabrichnova was a blonde with long curly
  hair. Oksana seems to be in much better form than in recent times, she
  was actually smiling in the middle of her floor routine.

- Liliya Podkopayeva looked much fitter than last month and duly won the
  floor event, although there was still not much choreography in it IMHO.
  She fell off the beam in her "Korbut" though (I know there are
  discussions that Olga wasn't actually the first one who did that but you
  know which move I mean!).

Ta-ra folks!


Date:    Sun, 7 May 1995 16:07:01 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Supersport

If anyone is interested, Mary Lou Retton is featured in this Sunday's Mini
Page (a children's insert in many newspapers).  They frequently have
gymnasts--I can recall Dominique Dawes and Michelle Campi as two who have
been in it.

Ann Marie


Date:    Sun, 7 May 1995 16:07:08 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Olympic time schedule

I know this is early, but does anyone know if NBC will broadcast the Atlanta
Olympics live?  I guess this depends on what time competitions will take
place, but I just wanted to know whether I'm going to have to avoid other
networks who release results before events are televised.

Ann Marie


Date:    Sun, 7 May 1995 13:36:30 -0700
From:    ***@MHS.MENDOCINO.K12.CA.US
Subject: Li's Vault?

I wondered it anyone knew what Li Xiaoshuang's first vault was at the '94
worlds in the event final. His second vault was so beautiful (handspring
full twist front pike) but under-rotated and I know he got a 9.7 for his
first so I was curious what it was. They chose to only show the vault he
struggled with on TV in the U.S.

Also, perhaps Sherwin can answer something for me since he just saw Scherbo
perform. Do you know it he did his new release move on HB that he's talked
about? In an interview last fall he mentioned some spectacular move that
nobody had ever done before and he had mastered it. I have no idea what it
is and perhaps someone can shed some light on the subject.



Date:    Sun, 7 May 1995 20:45:14 -0400
Subject: dream team

Now that tickets are available for Atlanta, I thought it might be
fun to start speculating on who we each think would make the best
U.S. team (I think about this many nights when I'm having insomnia  :-))

 So *my* dream team, as of now, would be made up of be following gymnasts:
Shannon Miller
Kim Zmeskal
Dominique Dawes
Amanda Borden
Dominique Moceanu
Jennie Thompson
Doni Thompson

 So  what do y' all think?
-- Kiki

P.S. I just found this list a few weeks ago and I'm *thrilled*!  I had no
clue there were so many of us  hard-core  gym fans!  BTW, does anyone know
when tickets for the Olympic trials will be available?  I live in the
Boston area and can't wait...


End of GYMN-L Digest - 6 May 1995 to 7 May 1995