gymn Digest                 Mon,  8 Aug 94       Volume 2 : Issue 163

Today's Topics:
                           '95 Amer Classic
                 A Few More Classic Thoughts (2 msgs)
                           American Classic
                           August Calendar
                             Barbie News
                         Better News on Strug
                           computer problem
                         computers are crazy!
                           GG: M EF (Day 2)
                       GG: M EF (Day 2) part ii
                            GG: Mixed Team
                        GG: Mixed Team results
                  Goodwill Medals Break Down (final)
              goodwill sportmanship and unphrey brothers
                     Gymnastics meets Robotics...
               Kerri & Classic (was Re: Hello) (2 msgs)
                        Lilia P.'s floor music
                               Mary Lou
                           Mary Lou - again
                            Music Question
                            On the Up Side
                           Sex Tape Update
                              soviet gym
                            Soviet System
                     Sports Illustrated (2 msgs)
                          Strug hospitalized
                             Strug Update
                        Texx's Chinese 'Studs'
                          USA Championships

This is a digest of the mailing list. 

Date: Sun, 07 Aug 94 20:31:52 EDT
From: ***
Subject: '95 Amer Classic

 I am a 12 year old level 5 and I was wondering if any other gymn members
were planning, or could go to the  '95 American Classic Feb. 16-18. It would
be fun to meet a gymner in person. Also if you ever get a schedule please


Date: Sun, 07 Aug 94 17:13:42 EDT
From: ***
Subject: A Few More Classic Thoughts

A couple more things occured to me ...

Some kid did a piked Jagger the wrong way on the bar in practice ... very
scary to watch. Didn't see if she did it in comp. and sorry but no idea what
club (Cypress? ...  Cinci?) or who she is.

The coaches seemed to outnumber the athletes three to one ... the useless
screaming (credentialed) child volunteers seemed to be twice as thick as the
coaches ... the completely annoying screaming childern in the crowd seemd to
reproduce and clone themselves as the meet progressed. Responsible parents
were no where to be seen.



Date: Sun, 07 Aug 94 22:37:51 EDT
From: ***
Subject: A Few More Classic Thoughts

>the useless
screaming (credentialed) child volunteers seemed to be twice as thick as the
coaches ... the completely annoying screaming childern in the crowd seemd to
reproduce and clone themselves as the meet progressed. Responsible parents
>were no where to be seen.

Is this becoming increasingly common or what?  Does anyone know if this
happens in smaller meets outside the US?



Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 15:46:58 PST
From: *** (Nancy A. Raymond)
Subject: American Classic

Hi everyone,

Now I *know* I didn't beat Susan back from P.S.  ;-)

Quick results:
(Scores factored 60% comp./40% opt.)

1. Katie Teft  (Great Lakes)              73.000
2. Theresa Kulikowski  (Colorado Aerials) 72.890
3. Mary Beth Arnold  (Flips)              72.480
4. Kristin Maloney  (Parkettes)           71.530
5. Andree Pickens  (Cypress)              70.650
6. Tara Tagliarino  (American Twisters)   70.260

1. Amanda Borden  (Cincinnati)            75.290
2. Amy Chow  (West Valley)                75.100     
3. Jaycie Phelps  (Cincinnati)            74.250
4. Summer Reid  (Flips)                   73.470
5. Kara Fry  (Parkettes)                  72.930
6. Samantha Muhleman  (Cincinnati)        72.650

This is the first meet Amanda has ever won.

Strug is okay and may get a green light for Nationals, they announced at
the end of the meet.

Dominique Dawes and Wendy Bruce (yes) competed compulsories only. Bruce has
been working out for just four months and may or may not compete nationals
(she has an invite). She's in fabulous shape. (Dawes 38.50; Bruce 36.00 -
two falls off beam, ouch)

Tami Taylor of SCATS also took a scary fall off beam in one-touch. She was
shaken, but walked away. Mild concussion, according to announcement.
Happily we didn't see any other injuries beyond a couple of ankles on ice.
Find me a meet without any of those.

Michelle Campi says she's doing fine - only wears brace sometimes and works
out a little ("easy stuff").

I'll let Susan add more, and I'll throw in some bits when I remember. In
keeping with the "re: Rudi" stuff, Deborah Mink of SCATS went for a front
handspring double-twisting front punch front, but ended up short on the
punch front.

Gotta hit the sack - Triggers don't like the desert winds and I'm wiped.
(Read: drive something streamlined and bottom-heavy out in them thar hills
at night.)



Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 22:08:01 -0500
From: ***
Subject: August Calendar

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The Gymn Calendar

Anyone that has any events to add to this calendar, please mail them
to me.  All events on this calendar are
subject to change.  -- Efton

     August 1994
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
    1  2  3  4  5  6
 7  8  9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31
4-7             U.S. Classic Nationals (W)/ Palm Springs, CA
12              Gymn's Second Anniversary
18-28           Commonwealth Games/ Victoria, B.C., Canada
        19-22   Commonwealth Games (Artistic Gymnastics)
        25-27   Commonwealth Games (Rhythmic Gymnastics)
20              Hilton Challenge Triangular Meet/ TELEVISED ON ABC
24-27           Coca-Cola USA National Championships/ Nashville, TN
24-27           USA Gymnastics National Congress/ Nashville, TN
27              Coca-Cola USA National Championships/ TELEVISED ON NBC
28              Coca-Cola USA National Championships/ TELEVISED ON NBC
29-9/3          XII Olympic Congress/ Paris, France
   September 1994
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
             1  2  3
 4  5  6  7  8  9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30
10-11           Golden Sands/ Varna, Bulgaria
20-24           Pan Am Gymnastics Cup/ Monterey, MEX
27-10/2         T.O.P. National Testing (W)/ TBA
30              Region V Mini-Congress/ Cincinatti, OH

     October 1994
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
 2  3  4  5  6  7  8
 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31

2-16            Asian Games (M/W)/ Hiroshima, Japan
6-9             Rhythmic World Championships/ Paris, France
15-16           World Championship Team Trials/ Richmond, VA
28-30           Gymnaestrada/ Palm Springs, CA
TBA             Rhythmic International Invitation (R)/ TBA

   November 1994
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
       1  2  3  4  5
 6  7  8  9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 9 30

9-12            Olympic Congress of the USA/ Nashville, TN
15-20           World Championships (Team)/ Dortmund, Germany
25-27           Swiss Cup/ Zurich, Switzerland
30              Arthur Gander Memorial/ Chiasso, Switzerland
TBA             Catania (W)/ Catania, Italy

   December 1994
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
             1  2  3
 4  5  6  7  8  9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31

2-4             DTB Cup/ Stuttgart, Germany
3               Team World Championships/ TELEVISED ON NBC
10-11           Chunichi Cup/ Nagoya City, Japan
15-21           Pacific Alliance Championships/ Auckland, New Zealand

   February 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
          1  2  3  4
 5  6  7  8  9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28

16-19           American Classic/ Pan Am Trials (W)/ Oakland, CA


   March 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
          1  2  3  4
 5  6  7  8  9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31

11-26           Pan American Games/ Mar Del Plata & Buenos Aires, Argentina
25              NCAA Regionals (M)/ TBA

   April 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
 2  3  4  5  6  7  8
 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29

11-15           USAG Collegiate Championships/ Denton, TX
15              USAIGC National Inv. Tournament/ Cape Girardeau, MO
20-22           NCAA National Champs (W)/ Athens, GA
21-22           NCAA National Champs (M)/ TBA

   May 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
    1  2  3  4  5  6
 7  8  9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31

11-13           Boys' J.O. Nationals/ Oakland, CA
11-14           Junior J.O. Nationals (W)/ West Palm Beach, FL
18-21           Senior J.O. Nationals (W)/ Lincoln, NE
29-7/2          National Gym Fest/ ?

   July 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
 2  3  4  5  6  7  8
 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31

1-9             Special Olympics Summer Games/ New Haven, CT
9-15            10th World Gymnaestrada/ Frankfurt, Germany
21-30           U.S. Olympic Festival (M/W/R)/ Boulder, Colorado Springs,
                                                and Denver, CO

   August 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
       1  2  3  4  5
 6  7  8  9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31

10-13?          Coca-Cola National Championships/ TBA (Championships
                        and Congress might be together in New Orleans)
12              Gymn's Third Anniversary
17-20           USA Gymnastics National Congress/ New Orleans, LA
24-9/8          World University Games (M/W/R)/ Fukuoka, Japan

   September 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
                1  2
 3  4  5  6  7  8  9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

19-24           Rhythmic World Championships/ Vienna, Austria

   October 1995
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
 1  2  3  4  5  6  7
 8  9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31

1-10            Artistic World Championships/ Sabae, Japan
4-7             Olympic Congress of the USA/ Atlanta, GA
4-8             Rhythmic World Champs/ Vienna, Austria

July 1996
19-8/4          Games of the XVIth Olympiad/ Atlanta, GA

August 1996
12              Gymn's Fourth Anniversary

Summer 1997
TBD             World University Games, Sicily, ITA

July 1998
25-8/9          Goodwill Games, New York, N.Y.

Summer 1999
TBD             World University Games, Palma de Mallorca, ESP

September 2000
16-10/1         Games of the XXVIIth Olympiad, Sydney, AUS


Date: Sun, 07 Aug 94 17:31:01 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Barbie News

A  purely useless story that turned up and I thought I'd share ... when will
it end?

>From the "San Jose Mercury News" celebrating Barbie's 35th birthday.  Other
bits dwelled on Ken's inadaquecy to ... ah ... assuage Barbie's needs so to
speak ... and oh-what-the-heck it made me laugh.

"We examined the new Gymnastics Barbie, who can be twisted into positions
that no real 35-year-old woman would try. We discussed theme Barbies we'd
like to see, politically correct types that deal with reality. We want Death
Row Barbie, Menopause Barbie and PMS Barbie. The latter would come bloated
and weepy. We're also hoping for In-recovery Barbie, who comes with a 12-step
poster, and Born-again Barbie, who comes with huge hair and a frown.
Litigious Barbie -- you buy her and she sues you. We want Homeless Barbie,
who once had a government-subsidized apartment until she voted for U.S. Sen.
Phil Gramm. Nun Barbie finally accepted Ken's inadequacy. Gay Barbie comes in
a little closet where she stays even though she should have no fear. We look
forward to Obese Barbie and Bulimic Barbie. Our personal favorite is Bobbitt
Barbie; she has Ken's missing appendage!"



Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 12:00:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: Better News on Strug

read on the USGF BBS that Kerri Strug was kept at the hospital
overnight for observation, but is due to be released today (Saturday).
Apparently, she is expected to be OK.



Date: 06 Aug 94 17:19:23 EDT
From: <***>
Subject: computer problem

      Hi everyone! My magnus account has gone berserk and will NOT let me
into my mailbox. So I can't read any of the messages on gymn [draw a sad
face here]. I might not be able to get this fixed until after the weekend,
when the computer services office is open. So if anyone has written me and
I haven't responded, that's why - I can't get to your letter. One person
had already asked me to send a tape of the GMA segment on Christy Henrich.
Unfortunately, your address is stuck in my mailbox and I can't get to it.
So please write me here at CompuServe so I can get your address again!
If there's been anything especially interesting on gymn, please send it to
me here at CompuServe. I hate missing all the comments about Goodwill
Games... Thanks everyone!



Date: Sat, 6 Aug 94 17:31:11 EDT
From: <***>
Subject: computers are crazy!

     Well, right after I sent that message saying magnus wouldn't let me into
my mailbox, I made ONE more attempt (about the 25th!!) and it did. So I have no
idea what is going on here! Since it seems to be working now, magnus is where I
prefer to get my mail. So unless it starts acting up again, disregard what I
said about writing to CompuServe. Sorry for the trouble!



Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 12:05:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: GG: M EF (Day 2)

Scores from the AP:

   Vault--1, Grigori Misyutin, Ukraine, 9.550 points. 2, Yevgeni
Shabayev, Russia, 9.512. 3, Aleksei Voropayev, Russia, 9.500. 4, Scott
Keswick, Las Vegas, 9.350. 5, Cristian Leric, Romania, 9.275. 6, Ivan
Pavlovsky, Belarus, 9.225. 7, Robert Taciulet, Romania, 9.150. 8, Wang
Dong, China, 9.100.

   Parallel bars--1 (tie), Shabayev and Dun Chjon, China, 9.725. 3,
Aleksei Nemov, Russia, 9.700. 4 (tie), Aleksandr Shostak, Belarus;
Leric; and Andrei Kan, Belarus, 9.625. 7, Yuan Chunsin, China, 9.400.
8, Misyutin, 9.000.

   Horizontal bar--1, Voropayev, 9.750. 2, Sandro Nistor, Romania,
9.575. 3, Chjen Lyan, China, 9.500. 4, Drew Durbin, Columbus, Ohio,
9.475. 5 (tie) Djovanni D'Innochenco, Italy, and Chainey Umphrey,
Albuquerque, N.M., 9.450. 7, Dan Burinca, Romania, 9.100. 8, Nemov,


Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 17:47:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: GG: M EF (Day 2) part ii

Notes from Reuters...

-Nemov fell off high bar.

-Shabayev was "the only gymnast to try a complicated second vault."

-Leric (ROM) landed "on his head" on his first vault and Taciulet
(also ROM) landed so badly that he had to do a backward roll.

Notes from UPI...

-Misutin won the vault "with a triple front and a front twisting
somersault that earned an average score of 9.550 from the judges."

-Shabayev was the only gymnast to throw two 9.8 vaults, but took steps
on the landings to finish 2nd.  He also took a step back on pbars for
his dismount, but still managed a 9.725 to tie for the gold.

Dun, re his gold on pbars: "This is my first ever medal on this
apparatus. Quite honestly, I had a lot of injuries to my hands and
feet coming into this competition and I didn't expect a medal -- I
would have been delighted just to get a bronze, let alone the gold."

-Voropayev had a 10.0 SV on high bar, no doubt due in part to this
three release moves.

Voropayev: "This is a big victory for me. I fell twice earlier in the
competition so I realized I had to concentrate better."

Saturday begins the mixed team competition...



Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 11:15:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: GG: Mixed Team

Final Results, from the AP.  Does anyone know how this is scored??

 Mixed Team
 Final Standings
   1. Belarus-Ukraine (Aleksandr Shostak, Belarus; Grigori Misyutin,
Ukraine; Yelena Piskun, Belarus; Liliya Podkopyeva, Ukraine), 96.137
   2. Russia-1 (Dmitri Vasilenko, Aleksei Nemov, Oksana Fabrichnova,
Svetlana Khorkina), 95.712.
   3. Russia-Uzbekistan (Aleksei Voropayev, Russia; Yevgeni Shabayev,
Russia; Yelena Grosheva, Russia; Oksana Chusovitina, Uzbekistan),
   4. United States-1 (Chainey Umphrey, Albuquerque, N.M.; Scott
Keswick, Las Vegas; Jennie Thompson, Wichita Falls, Texas; Shannon
Miller, Edmond, Okla.), 94.012.
   5. Ukraine-Belarus (Andrei Kan, Belarus; Vitali Rudnitsky, Belarus;
Irina Bulakhova, Ukraine; Oksana Knizhnik, Ukraine), 93.987.
   6. Romania (Sandro Nistor, Cristian Leric, Ionela Loaies, Ana
Mariya Bikan), 92.250.
   7. China (Van Dun, Chjen Lyan, Chjan Li, Din Yui), 92.100.
   8. Japan-Kazakhstan-Belgium (Akihiro Hiramatsu, Japan; Takashi
Chinen, Japan; Vanessa van de Plas, Belgium; Irina Evdokimova,
Kazakhstan), 89.975.
   9. United States-2 (Drew Durbin, Columbus, Ohio; Blaine Wilson, Columbus,
Ohio; Marianna Webster, Joplin, Mo.; Soni Meduna, Colon, Mo.), 88.562.


Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 15:21:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: GG: Mixed Team results

Fairly interesting that the US's B team beat the A team...

>From the AP wire...

   1. Belarus-Ukraine (Grigori Misyutin, Ukraine; Aleksandr Shostak, Belarus;
Yelena Piskun, Belarus), 48.737.
   2. Russia-1 (Dmitri Vasilenko, Aleksei Nemov, Svetlana Khorkina), 48.537.
   3. Ukraine-Belarus (Vitali Rudnitsky, Belarus; Andrei Kan, Belarus; Oksana
Knizhnik, Ukraine; Irina Bulakhova, Ukraine), 47.637.
   4. United States-2 (Blaine Wilson, Columbus, Ohio; Drew Durbin, Columbus,
Ohio; Soni Meduna, Colon, Mo.; Marianna Webster, Joplin, Mo.), 47.312.
   5. United States-1 (Chainey Umphrey, Albuquerque, N.M.; Scott Keswick, Las
Vegas; Shannon Miller, Edmond, Okla.; Jennie Thompson, Wichita Falls, Texas),
   6. Russia-2 (Yevgeni Shabayev; Aleksei Voropayev; Oksana Chusovitina,
Uzbekistan; Yelena Grosheva), 47.037.
   7. Romania (Sandro Nistor, Cristian Leric, Romania, Ana Mariya Bikan, Ionela
Loaies), 46.100.
   8. Japan-Kazakhstan (Takashi Chinen, Japan; Akihiro Hiramatsu, Japan; Irina
Evdokimova, Kazakhstan), 45.800.
   9. China (Van Dun, Chjan Li), 45.350.


Date: Sun, 07 Aug 94 17:26:44 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Goodwill Medals Break Down (final)

>From the PR Newswire (CNN) ...

RUSSIA         68      50      53     171
UNITED STATES  37      39      43   119
CHINA          12       9       6      27
SOUTH KOREA    10   5       1      16
CUBA            9      10       5      24
UKRAINE  8       4      13      25
NORWAY          4       0       0       4
BELARUS         3       6      14      23
BRITAIN         3       5    3      11
CANADA          3       4       5      12
FRANCE          3 3       6      12
GERMANY         2       7      12      21
ITALY  2       1       4       7
SPAIN           2       1       4     7
KENYA           2       1       3       6
POLAND          1       3  2       6
ROMANIA         1       3       0       4
JAPAN           1    2       4       7
TURKEY          1       2       3       6
SWEDEN          1 2       2       5
DENMARK         1       1      1       3
COSTA RICA      1       1       0       2
IRELAND         1   1       0       2
BELGIUM         1       0       4       5
SLOVAKIA 1       0       2       3
PUERTO RICO     1       0       1       2
MOROCCO         1       0       0       1
ALGERIA         1       0    0       1
MOZAMBIQUE      1       0       0       1
MEXICO          1 0       0       1
GEORGIA         1       0       0       1
NEW ZEALAND 1       0       0       1
VIRGIN ISLANDS  1       0       0  1
ARMENIA         0       3       0       3
NIGERIA         0       2    0       2
LATVIA          0       2       0       2
AUSTRALIA    0       1       3       4
FINLAND         0       1       2       3
AUSTRIA 0       1       0       1
PORTUGAL        0       1      0       1
ZAMBIA          0       1       0       1
BRAZIL          0   1       0       1
ESTONIA         0       1       0       1
SOMALIA  0       1       0       1
NAMBIA          0       1       0       1
IRAN            0       1       0       1
UZBEKISTAN      0       0    4       4
HUNGARY         0       0       2       2
NETHERLANDS     0 0       2       2
JAMAICA         0       0       2       2
BULGARIA    0       0       2       2
MOLDOVA         0       0      2       2
SYRIA           0       0       1       1
EYGPT           0   0       1       1
KAZAKHSTAN      0       0       1       1


posted by Susan


Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 15:14:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: ***
Subject: goodwill sportmanship and unphrey brothers

> As I referred to briefly in another post, he was downright rude to the fans in
> Australia, even children. He absolutely refused to let anyone take his photo
> outside the arena and would not sign autographs, while his teammates were more
> than happy to do so. Shabayev and Voropayev were very gracious and seemed to
> enjoy posing for photos, especially with the kids on the IG tour. But Nemov
> just yelled at everyone. I'd never seen an athlete behave that way before
> (except Shcherbo when he's in a bad mood). So he didn't exactly charm me with
> his personality, though his gymnastics is stunning.

Sounds to me like a spoilt child.  Needs a trip to Singapore for an attitude
adjustment with a rattan cane!

>      This is mainly for Susan's amusement, although I'm sure the Russians were
> also amused. You know how the Russian announcer pronounced "Scott" as "Skote"?
> Well, the word "skot" (which is pronounced "skote") means "cattle" or
> "livestock" in Russian. I bet the Russians are wondering why anyone would name
> their son after cows!

I keep hearing people from europe saying "OH ! You crazy americans !
Well this just goes to prove it.  We now know that we've totally gone over
the edge !
"Cow Keswick"  has a nice ring to it donchathink ?


>      Speaking of Scott, he seemed to be wearing the shorts Voropayev was
> supposed to have on, and vice versa (Aleksei's shorts looked a lot like
> Chainey's).

2 thought here... 1st one I dont dare utter in public, its  about that shorts
thing and too kinky.

Second, we always talk about Chainey Umphreys.  He has a brother and both
were on the UCLA team together.  His brother is still there.
His brother really should get more recognition.
Its sad.  I have to admit that even *I* cant remember his brother's name.
(Greg ?)  but anyway, at least I know he has a talented brother in gymn
too.  Hopefully the rest of you will think of his brother at the same time you
think of Chainey.


Date: Sun, 7 Aug 94 23:09:30 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Gymnastics meets Robotics...

Hi all,

Received this Thesis Defense notice, and figured some of you might
be interested.  The thesis will be published in the form of an AI
tech report in a few months time -- if anyone is interested I can
get you the information on how to get a copy.


>                  T H E S I S   D E F E N S E   
>                      "Passive Dynamics
>            in the Control of Gymnastic Maneuvers"
>                       Robert Playter
>           The Leg Lab, Artificial Intelligence Lab
>                       &
>        The Dept. of Aeronautics and Astronautics
>                 Date:  Wednesday August 10
>                 Time:  1:00 - 2:00 pm
>                 Place: MIT Bldg. 33-206
>                         Abstract:
> The control of aerial gymnastic maneuvers is challenging
> because these maneuvers frequently involve complex
> rotational motion and because the performer has limited
> control of the maneuver during flight.  While a performer
> can execute a sequence of limb movements during
> flight to produce a desired maneuver, the same sequence may
> not produce reliable performances in the presence of
> off-nominal conditions.  How do people compensate for
> variations in performance conditions to reliably produce
> aerial maneuvers?  It is possible that people sense errors
> in performance and actively compute appropriate responses
> to them to produce reliable maneuvers.  However, it is also
> possible that the maneuver is inherently stable, that
> the body naturally compensates for variations, and that
> the athlete does little active computation. 
> In this presentation I explore the role that passive dynamic
> stability may play in making the performance of aerial
> maneuvers simple and reliable.  I consider the control of
> the tucked somersault, the layout somersault, and the
> 1 1/2 twisting front somersault.  I present a control
> strategy comprised of active and passive components
> for performing robot front somersaults in the laboratory.
> I show that  passive dynamics can neutrally stabilize the
> layout somersault which involves an ``inherently unstable''
> rotation about the intermediate principal axis.  And
> I show that a strategy that uses open loop joint torques
> plus passive dynamics leads to more reliable 1 1/2 twisting
> front somersaults in simulation than a strategy that uses
> prescribed limb motion.  Results are presented from
> laboratory experiments on gymnastic robots, from dynamic
> simulation of humans and robots, and from linear stability
> analyses of these systems.
> Thesis Committee:  Marc Raibert
>               Andy Von Flotow
>               Chris Atkeson


Date: Fri, 05 Aug 94 22:33:57 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Hello!

>I realize that Kerri is a valuable member of our National Team, etc. BUT
doesn't this raise some serious questions about affiliation of the National
staff with a single gymnast

I think, considering Kerri's health problems, the coaching situation now is a
good one.  IMHO, Muriel in particular will be able to shield Kerri from less
positive influences.

Susan made a fascinating (and accurate) comment a while back, saying that
Kerri became a Kim clone at Bela's and a Shannon clone at Dynamo.  I, for
one, am looking forward to seeing the real Kerri step forward.



Date: Sun, 07 Aug 94 03:20:10 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Kerri & Classic (was Re: Hello)

>I think, considering Kerri's health problems, the coaching situation now is
a good one.  IMHO, Muriel in particular will be able to shield Kerri from
less positive influences.<

Well that was simply a one time deal (Grosfield's coaching Kerri0 anyway so
not to worry .

Well I talked to Geza and Kerri is fine after her nasty fall off compo bars
at Classic.  It looked far worse then it was and though the local TV news
(Palm Springs local that is) also reported it as "serious" it never was from
what I understand ...  they were just playing it safe. She has nothing wrong
with her according to Poszar (who's coaching her now). He said that if she's
ready mentally there's nothing physically wrong to keep her out of Nationals
if she wants to go (she could be petioned in).  From what I saw she missed
her hand on a half piraquette and therefore didn't get enough push for the
straddle over and peeled off between the bars.

I also spoke briefly with Michelle after the fall and she said that she had
fallen while working on a back uprise in her optional set *not* the
compulsory bar slip-grip  that we'd heard. She wears a brace occasionaly but
is really in no pain and is all set to move to Oklahoma and resume mild
training (she's already doing some stuff). Her coach, Rick Newman, is already
there (at Dynamo that is).

We had another doozy of a crash today when a Scats Sr. (Taylor?) missed her
foot on beam and landed on her neck. She was unconciousess for a bit (they
later announced she had a "mild concussion") but seemed to recover. She, like
Kerri, was taken to the hospital just to be on the safe side.

Amy Chow, who was last on BB in the final rotation,  was delayed over 15
minutes watching Taylor being carried off via ambulance but not even a
strecher could shake her cconfidence and she hit cold scoring the silver
behind Borden (scores figured 60% compos and 40% optionals). Amy also had a
clean double double (a la Fabrichnova) off unevens.

Highlights that I remember ...

Dawes won compos and didn't compete optionals.

Larissa Fontaine was there and training but didn't compete at all.

Wendy is in great shape (she also was compos only) and says she will go to
Nationals (she's peitioned in) but  isn't sure if she'll compete optionals
there either (she said she'd probably decide the "day before"). She's only
been back in the gym about 2 1/2 months and says that her optionals "aren't
ready yet ... the new code is a lot different and  I wanted to see what the
girls here were doing ... I'm not the kind of gymnast who watches it on TV
all the time ... I really didn't know what was going on"

[About her performance] "I just started learning compulsories a few weeks ago
... I didn't expect to do well on beam" (she fell twice). She said she came
back simply because she "missed the sport" and has no set goals. "I'm just
working on putting no pressure on myself and doing what feels right ... after
the Olympics I wanted to get away from all the training and pressure but
after working for a while [what she termed a "dead end job"] I'd come and
miss not having something to worry about." She was also working part-time at
Brown's and said "it was hard to be in the gym and not want to work out and

[About getting back in shape] "I shouldn't say this but it was really easy
for me ... especially since I haven't been in the gym for 2 years now"

Her team-mate Jenni Beathard (Brown's) has a killer bars set and won that
event. Cincinati seemed to have the best group with almost all of them
performing the double front off bars and Jaycee Phelps taking the bronze AA
behind Borden (9.775 on FX)  and Amy Chow.

Summer Reid had cool beam (she also had great compos from what  I saw - only
the 3rd and 4th rotations) mounting layout, immed layout, FF, layout and also
having a Gainer LO, FF (we're arguing about the second FF but John swears he
saw it), FF, layout series. We also saw a full twisting fish jump on beam by
Becca' (?) Amelkovich. 

The third girl from Dynamo (not Brink or Martini but her name escapes me ...
Reiland maybe?) has a *great* handspring front pike. It's high, clean, and
superbly rotated (so fast it's almost a blur). Her toes are pointed until she
hits the mat.

Overall the girls from CATS (Sr. and Jr.s) had the best choreography  and
presence not to mention great leos (and lots of errors). Samenthea Muhleman
(Cinci) or Rachele Rochelli (Cyprus) would be my picks to watch for in
Nationals ... both decent all arounders. They finshed 5th and 6th
respectively after compos (no clue about their final standings).

As for Juniors ... Katie Teft (Great Lakes Gymnastics) won easily (even with
a fall on her first pass of tuck full-in on FX) and Tracy Kulikowski
(Colorado Ariels) was 2nd (nice beam).  Tracy was pretty good but Kristen
Maloney of Parkettes and Kristie Powell of Colorado were my favorite Jr's.
 The Olympus girls (Apgood and Grahem) were also quite promising as were all
the girls (Sr. and Jr.) from Capitol (great hands).

Katie (all the Jr's seemed to be named Katie so I hope that's right) Dyson
out of  Cyprus was the tinest thing I've ever seen. She made teammate Monica
Flammer (4'2" tops) look like a giantess. Katie missed her hands on vault and
took a bad spill. She was allowed to re-do the vault and executed a harder
vault then before to raise her average (she fell on the first one and scored
a 6.6 something) ... bonus points for guts on that one.

Onnie (?) Willis out of Puget Sound Gymnastics gets huge credit for imporving
a billion percent over the last time I saw her in '93 Jr. Int'l. It took me
hours and a couple hints to even recognize her (she's gotten a lot taller
too). Form, execution, and overall stance are light years ahead of where she
was a year or so ago. Kudos well deserved.

Many of the juniors were doing the 9.9 rated Yurchenko 1 1/2 tucked to get a
big score.

Video re-hasing of a routine by the judges when there's a protest takes

The meet ended with a moment of silience for Christy Henrich (though they
pronounced her name incorrectly I think the sentiment was there).

I didn't stick around to get scores (It would have been at least a half hour
and I had to drive home yet) so if there are errors here please forgive me. I
also forgot my name sheets with my notes printed neatly upon them and only
brought home the list of standing for Sr's after compos ... my mind has grown
feeble in my old age.  Everything is kind of a blur (I was there for 12 hours
striaght today and 2 1/2 yesterday) so I except there are some errors
praticularly since most of these girls I've never seen before this weekend.



Date: Sun, 07 Aug 94 22:30:11 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Kerri & Classic (was Re: Hello)

>Does this mean she won't be at Nationals.  Seems there have been a couple of
conflicting reports about her accident.<

The only "conflicts" came via dorks who had never seen gym before and said.
"Wow she fell she must be dead." No-one, probably not even Kerri, knows if
she will go to Championships and if she does will she be 100%? What could
have happened if she hadn't fallen here had a good meet and went into the
Nationals with some confidence we'll never know.



Date: Sun, 7 Aug 94 13:58:23 EDT
From: <***>
Subject: Kochetkova

     This might be an unnecessary question, snce I was out last night and had
to tape TBS's coverage of the mixed team, and haven't watched it yet. Maybe
there was an explanation on the show. Anyway - why wasn't Kochetkova in the
mixed team event? I didn't see her name in the results posted on gymn.



Date: Sun, 07 Aug 94 23:39:24 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Lilia P.'s floor music

Does anyone know the name of Lilia's floor music?Thanks!  Melanie


Date: Fri, 5 Aug 94 22:54:54 18000
From: <***>
Subject: Mary Lou

I just saw Mary Lou hosting some comedy show on A&E.Hope this gets
through in time.




Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 20:32:22 -0400
From: ***
Subject: Mary Lou - again

Just back from being away for the weekend - in a hotel that doesn't get
TBS, so no chance to catch even final half-hours of the Goodwill Games.
:-(  Here's hoping the VCR behaved...

However, I did get home in time to catch ABC's "World News Sunday."
Tonight's sports feature, reported by Dick Schaap, was about Mary Lou
Retton on the 10th anniversary of her AA gold medal winning performance.
The story featured bits from the actual ABC coverage, Bud Greenspan's "16
Days Of Glory' (in which I think I detected Nunno next to Bela),
"Baywatch," and Wheaties commercial.  The piece also showed her in
"current" action - beiong made up for photo or video shoots, giving one of
her motivational talks. 

Funniest part of the interview (IMHO) was Schaap's first question:  "When
was the last time you frowned?"  Only one or two other questions - this was
not a long piece.  Nevertheless, I found it interesting that the interview
was conducted in Ohio - I wonder what the circumstances were; since Schaap
is usually based on New York (though he wasn't doing his usual report this
weekend) and Mary Lou lives in Houston (as I recall).

Upon reflection, it appeared that Schaap's main point in doing the piece
was not only to commemorate the anniversary of Retton's feat, but also to
point out that there are some athletes today still upholding a "role model"
image in this age where so many seem to be heading "downhill."  Interesting
piece, though.

Just thought I'd share...


Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 01:34:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: <***>
Subject: Music Question

Hi everyone!

This is one that's been bugging me for a long time until I joined this
forum. I was wondering if anyone could please tell me the artist(s) and
song title of the musical piece Tatiana Gutsu performed to on her floor
exercise during the '92 Barcelona Olympics. BTW, I love the traffic in
this forum!




Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 22:38:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: On the Up Side

So, tonight I was watching the local news, sorta tuning out, but then
all of a sudden my attention was caught by "and now, 'On the Up Side'
with Mary Lou Retton."

And on the screen appears Ms. Retton herself, her hair all pouffy and
her straight teeth smile and a pretty smart pantsuit on, walking and
talking toward the camera in front of this modern-ish set backdrop
that consisted of huge white block letters (same size as MLR) that
said "On the Up Side".  She talks about how one should capitalize on
their strengths instead of trying to fit the mold.  For example, she
says, in her gymnastics career the athletes were expected to be very
graceful, balletic, etc.  "But that's *not* me," she laughs, with her
straight smile and then talks about how she built her routines around
her power.  By now she's sitting on a stool in the middle of the set.
After she finishes her little feel-good blurb, the lights go out on
her and the "On the Up Side" blocks are shadowed by a back (side?)

Then they cut back to the regular sports section.  The local guy says,
not missing a beat, "And speaking about capitalizing on your
strengths... <smooth transition into some local sports team>."

So anyways, my impression is that MLR has a weekly spot on the local
news giving motivational blurbs.  I don't really know, though, as I'm
just now joining the real world, since I've been sans TV for over a



Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 14:41:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: ***
Subject: Rudi

> > >
> > {...}
> > > I have never heard of a name for a front with four and one half twists.
> >
> >
> > Its called "WHOA ! AWSOME !"
> >
> I think we should call it a Rufus.

And if you do it fast enough to make noise as you fly through the air, we can
call it a "Whistling Rufus" !

Actually I should explain this bad pun.  Whistling Rufus is tha name of a
Famous ragtime tune


Date: Sun, 07 Aug 94 06:43:31 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Sex Tape Update

To All:
   Well, there are two updates in the University of Minnesota gymnastics
coaches' sex tapes.
   First of all, the coaches lost their lawsuit against the university and
remain fired.
   But in a far more reaching decision, a district court has ruled that the
tapes are public record and can be viewed. The student newspaper had filed a
lawsuit against the university, asking for a copy of the tape -- a tape which
could be viewed under the state's public records law.
   But the university illegally said 'no,' saying that it would be "absurd"
to release the tape. But the courts scolded the university.
   "Newspapers are free to examine the reasons for a government agency's
actions and criticize the government agency even though the agency's conduct
is upheld in the courts," the district court said, according to "The
Pubisher's Auxiliary."
   I, for one, am happy with the court's decision. Yes, there really is no
reason to view the tapes other than for curiosity. But you really can't allow
a univerisity to start arbitrarily start deciding what they will and will not
release regarding an employees' firing.
   When that happens, it enables the institution to shroud itself in secrecy.
   It's better to err on the side of free speech, ensuring that the
institution operates under the watchful eye of the public.
--- Ronald Dupont, Jr. in Fla.


Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 15:48:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: <***>
Subject: soviet gym


I was on the road during the GG, but I did catch some TBS coverage in my hotel room.  does anyone have any comments on the report on the soviet system, which they claimed included impregnating girls and terminating the pregnancies near competition time in order to take advantage of the body's ability to absorb nutrients during pregnancy?  I have a very hard time believing this story.  What about the trauma caused during pregnancy, the illness in the first trimester?  Wouldn't that interfere with training in ways which would offset the advantages?  Is this story legit or is it another "evil empire" tale?  does anyone out there know?



Date: Sun, 07 Aug 94 03:20:16 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Soviet System

The Sovs getting em' preggers then abort thing has been tossed about quite a
bit and was featured in the BBC series "More Then a Game" (shown here on A&E)
during it's women in sports episode. Though that episode  talked extensively
about gymnastics this practice was supposed to increase endurace and was put
to use for such things as distance running, biking, or long distance swimming
(so they said). As for it's veracity ...  well I'm sure there's some truth to
all the horror stories but I wouldn't  swallow everything you hear (including
from me) whole.



Date: Fri,  5 Aug 94 23:07:00 UTC
From: ***
Subject: Sports Illustrated

>(Am I mistaken, or did they totally ignore the Brisbane Worlds?)
They ignored Brisbane and Birmingham, as well, I think.  Any bets on GG gym
coverage? :)


Date: Fri, 05 Aug 94 23:50:09 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Sports Illustrated

>They ignored Brisbane and Birmingham, as well, I think.  Any bets on GG gym
coverage? :)

Sports Illustrated's coverage of GG will be limited to the pool and ice
difficulties, I'm sure.



Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 07:16:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: Strug hospitalized

The blurb from the AP, in its entirety:

   PALM SPRINGS, Calif. (AP) -- Kerri Strug, a 1992 Olympic gymnast,
was hospitalized in serious condition Friday night after falling off
the parallel bars during a meet.
   Strug, 17, of Tucson, Ariz., was in serious condition at Desert
Hospital, a hospital spokeswoman said.
   Strug fell off the bars and hit her chest and chin. She lay
motionless for a few minutes before moving her arms to indicate pain.
   Paramedics carried Strug from the Palm Springs Convention Center on
a stretcher wearing a neck brace.
   Strug had completed two of four events in the U.S. Classic
Nationals, a qualifying meet for the world team trials, and was second
behind Dominique Dawes when she fell.



Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 12:54:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: Strug Update

The AP reports that Kerri was in fair condition on Saturday night
(still in the hospital) with a back sprain, and was expected to be
released on Sunday.

Kathy Kelly, Women's Program Administrator: "The fall did look bad,
but she's a very strong, very flexible girl and was able to withstand
that with minor damage. She was walking around and laughing today
[Saturday].  Her coaches are still optimistic that this is a minor
injury and that she'll be able to train at the end of the week."



Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:53:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: ***
Subject: Texx's Chinese 'Studs'

> >Sooner or later their studs were gonna age out of the sport leaving them
> with a "greenhorn" team.  It happens and not only in sports.
> >I cant believe the Russians couldnt see this and breathe a sigh of relief
> that they will have a year or 2 before the chinese become a problem forthem
> again.
> I was under the impression that the Chinese 'studs' were home preparing for
> the Asian Games...
> Mara
Nevertheless, the Russians should have been grateful for the easy winnings...


Date: Sun, 7 Aug 94 23:23:11 18000
From: <***>
Subject: USA Championships

Does anyone have any info(tickets,sessions,where it's held in
Nashville) on USA Champs.I'm thinking about going and any help at all
would be appreciated.





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