gymn Digest Sat, 23 Apr 94 Volume 2 : Issue 111

Today's Topics:
(spoil) response
(spoil) Shannon Miller
(spoil) W's AA: scores, quotes, comments (2 msgs)
(spoil) Women's All-Around
(spoil) Women's top 30 (2 msgs)
A Bit About Nadia
advice
Belenky and Boginskaya
Diving (4 msgs)
Fwd: Re: Scherbo
NCAA Men's Results
NCAA Women
Nebraska sweeps men's NCAA
Phoebe Mills
spoil - Womens AA First Session (2 msgs)

This is a digest of the gymn@athena.mit.edu mailing list.

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 94 00:09:52 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: (spoil) response

>About his "Jewishness"...In the USSR anti-semitism is very high so being
Jewish is not a popular thing. At the '91 Worlds a reporter, I'm not sure
from where, asked Belenki if there were any Jews on the Soviet team. He said
"no"... though both he and Taitania Lyssenko are ethnically Jewish it is very
doubtful that they ever practiced their relgion in the state run sports
>system that was their world.

Someone on the 1992 Triplecast said a number of times that Belenki's father
was a Jewish rabbi. If that is so, it would seem unusual that such a
religious person would allow his son to be "raised" at a place such as
Kruglove. Does anyone know???

Mara

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 94 00:27:35 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: (spoil) Shannon Miller

Just had to mention that (aren't I always the one?) before everyone lofts
Shannon into a postion with Tourischeva that there is a widly enormous diff.
in winning back to back titles 4 years apart and 12 months, nearly to the
day, apart. Not a critiscm of Shannon, just of the press who makes it sound
like the same thing. Who knows how many women could have won the AA title
back to back if they had this every year worlds system to help them.
Yurchenko was World Cup & World AA Champion in '82 and '83 and still had a
great shot (until UB) to take the title in Montreal (1985). Shus was World AA
and then World Cup Champ in '85 and '86. I could go on but Maybe's and If's
are so useless...Also please consider how many gymansts may have held on "for
one more worlds" if they didn't have to wait another 2 years (a long haul in
the women's gymanstics world). I'm not belittling Shannon's accomplishment
just putting into perspective.

Still Unpopular,

Susan

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 11:04:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject: (spoil) W's AA: scores, quotes, comments

Miscellaneous from AP, UPI, and Reuters newswires:

Miller: "It meant a lot to win last year because it was my first time,
but this means even more because I had to come back from injuries."

Nunno: "I've seen this movie before. A lot of people counted Shannon
out, but I know what makes her tick and I knew she was going to give
100 percent and a valiant effort, if not a gold medal. We look at
pressure as a challenge."

Miller, re not knowing what she needed going into the vault: "I don't
look at the board. I'm focused on my routines. I just knew I had to do
the two best vaults I could and leave the rest to the judges."
[gasp-- really?]

Kelli Hill: "Dominique has struggled with this vault all week. It was
a very technical vault. She had problems with it in training and
overcompensated."

Highest score of the night: Huilan Mo of China, 9.9, on bars. (No
doubt she threw her Gaylord.)

Injured: Leticia Ishii, Brazil, dislocated both elbows falling from
the bars, and Australian Joanna Hughes suffered a badly
sprained/broken ankle in a fall during warmups on floor. (One newswire
says it was sprained, another says "possibly broken".)

Miller was in first place after beam (she started on bars), but then
took an awkward step on floor after a front somi (new pass?) to score
a 9.762 to slip to 2nd. But then in the last rotation, Milosovici
couldn't stick her landing off of bars and Miller hit her vaults,
giving Miller the title. (Another one of those runner-up watches
vaulter win the title stories.)

Another redundant Miller quote: "Last year the title meant a lot to
me, but this year it means even more. I was not aware how the score
was going when I went into the vault. I didn't look. I just tried to
stay positive."

Nunno made a comment about how the pair of Miller and Dawes would lead
the US team to gold at the Goodwill Games...? (contrary to what we
got from the USOC. O well.)

Top results:

1. Shannon Miller (U.S.) 39.274
2. Lavinia Milosovici (Romania) 39.236
3. Dina Kochetkova (Russia) 39.125
4. Gina Gogean (Romania) 39.061
5. Dominique Dawes (U.S.) 38.968
6. Lilia Podkopayeva (Ukraine) 38.942
7. Huilan Mo (China) 38.924
8. Nadia Hategan (Romania) 38.836
9. Svetlana Chorkina (Russia) 38.805
10. Yelena Piskun (Belarus) 38.767
11. Ya Qiao (China) 38.448
12. Elena Grosheva (Russia) 38.324

Other scores:
15. Virginia Karentzou (Greece) 38.068
?. Larissa Fontaine (USA) 37.887
19. Julia Stratmann (Germany) 37.805
21. Michal Schaf (Israel) 37.405



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Miller made the decision to compete in Brisbane less than a month ago
following a stomach injury.
"I had a little bit of doubt about whether I would be here," she said
afterwards. "I could not do any bar exercises for two weeks.
"I just knew that I had to do the best I could (on the vault) and then
leave the rest up to the judges. I was really focused on my routine. I was just
trying to think positively.
"Last year meant a lot to me because it was my first title," Miller added.
"But this means even more."
While Miller celebrated, team mate Dominique Dawes was left to contemplate
the single mistake which destroyed her title hopes.
For the second year in succession, the 17-year-old American led the
competition going into the final discipline.
But, in a repeat of her experience in Birmingham last year, Dawes failed
to
hold her balance on landing from the vault to fall out of contention. She
eventually finished fifth.
Nunno, the head U.S. coach, said Dawes had struggled to master her vault
during training.

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"It is a very technical vault and when you have a bit of a problem in
training, you can just tend to overcompensate," he said.
Milosovici said she was determined to capture several individual titles in
this weekend's apparatus titles.
"It was very tough competition tonight and I tried very hard. But the
championships are not over yet and there are some more titles to be won," she
said.
REUTER

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 14:59:39 -0500 (EST)
From: <***@gateway.us.sidwell.edu>
Subject: (spoil) W's AA: scores, quotes, comments

On Fri, 22 Apr 1994, Rachele wrote:

> Kelli Hill: "Dominique has struggled with this vault all week. It was
> a very technical vault. She had problems with it in training and
> overcompensated."

What vault did Dominique do?

> Miller was in first place after beam (she started on bars), but then
> took an awkward step on floor after a front somi (new pass?) to score
> a 9.762 to slip to 2nd.

Her "awkward step" was probably on her second pass, which, last time I saw
it, was RO 3 whips double-full immediate punch front.

Lisa

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 12:18:00 -0500
From: <***@ecn.purdue.edu>
Subject: (spoil) Women's All-Around

Two questions:

1) Why did Larissa Fontaine compete all-around? I thought Amanda
Borden was supposed to. Is this one of the new coaching
changes that are now allowed?

2) What happened to Beth Wymer at the NCAA's? She had been doing
so well all season.

Thanks,
Lori

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 14:33:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject: (spoil) Women's top 30

re diving: There is a diver named Jenny Keim who is about 16, I
believe, who used to be a gymnast at Karolyi's. I have no idea what
level she reached in gymnastics; I'd never heard of her before diving.
She's supposed to be pretty good in diving, though-- at the age of 14
she made the US Olympic Trials, if I remember correctly.

Anyways, here are the top 30 women, as reported by AP:

(looks like Lyssenko is the Daniela Silivas of the current
generation...)

All-Around
1, Shannon Miller, United States, 39.274 points.
2, Lavinia Milosovici, Romania, 39.236.
3, Dina Kochetkova, Russia, 39.125.
4, Gina Gogean, Romania, 39.061.
5, Dominique Dawes, United States, 38.968.
6, Lilia Podkopayeva, Ukraine, 38.942.
7, Mo Huilan, China, 38.924.
8, Nadia Hategan, Romania, 38.836.
9, Svetlana Chorkina, Russia, 38.805.
10, Yelena Piskun, Belarus, 38.767.
11, Qiao Ya, China, 38.448.
12, Elena Grosheva, Russia, 38.324.
13, Alena Plozkova, Belarus, 38.211.
(tie), Andrea Molnar, Hungary, 38.211.
15, Virginia Karentzou, Greece, 38.068.
16, Irina Boulakhova, Ukraine, 38.006.
17, Larissa Fontaine, United States, 37.887.
18, Tatiana Lyssenko, Ukraine, 37.862.
19, Julia Stratmann, Germany, 37.805.
20, Lambrini Apostilidou, Greece, 37.636.
21, Michal Schaf, Israel, 37.405.
22, Romina Plataroti, Argentina, 37.367.
23, Anna Zaitseva, Kazakhstan, 37.336.
24, Marilou Cousineau, Canada, 37.330.
25, Olga Yurkina, Belarus, 37.318.
26, Mari Kosuge, Japan, 37.273.
27, Mercedes Pacheco, Spain, 37.193.
28, Monica Martin, Spain, 36.830.
29, Yuka Arai, Japan, 36.730.
30, Chiara Ferrazzi, Italy, 36.642.
Other North Americans
33. Jaime Hill, Canada, 36.467
36. Eve-Marie Poulin, Canada, 36.162

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 94 00:09:13 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: (spoil) Women's top 30

Does anyone have more info about what happened to Lyssenko? Also, Yulia
Yurkina?

Mara

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 23:24:00 UTC
From: ***@genie.geis.com
Subject: A Bit About Nadia

Yesterday's issue of _l'Equipe_ carried a little boxed feature about Nadia's
likes and dislikes:

I Like
------

- Chicken breast and fish
- White wine
- Alain Delon [still!]
- Foreign languages. I speak Romanian, English, French, Italian
and a little Spanish
- Riding horses
- Watching Viktor Petrenko skate
- Soccer. I'll go to Pasadena on June 26 to cheer for Romania when
they play the US team.

I Don't Like
------------

- Red meat
- Beer and red wine
- Boxing
- Diving into water. I'm very uncomfortable in the water.
- Traveling in general
- Cockroaches and other small insects
- Snakes

Not a tremendously in depth interview, but kind of interesting.

Debbie


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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 23:34:46 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: advice

Thanks for all the responses to my request for advice for Marina (she's the
gymnast, I'm her mom, using her id). The trick involved is a back
handspring, and she landed with her hand turned around, twisted her elbow,
and landed on her shoulder.

Since reading all the responses here, she seems to be less bothered and
bogged down, so thanks again!

Sharai

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 23:23:00 UTC
From: ***@genie.geis.com
Subject: Belenky and Boginskaya

On the subject of Belenky's citizenship:

The French newspaper _l'Equipe_ ran a story on Wednesday entitled "Visas for
Fame" and one of the gymnasts mentioned was Belenky. He said, "I had to
wait only a year to become a naturalized citizen [of Germany] because the 2
nations concerned came to an agreement. Otherwise, I'd have had to wait for
3 years like everyone else."

In the same article, it says that Boginskaya will soon be moving to the US
to be the promoter of an unnamed gym until the '96 Olympics. After that,
she says, "perhaps I'll open a school named after me in Boston."

Debbie


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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 14:59:19 -0400 (edt)
From: <***@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Diving

As a former collegiate diver that started in gymnastics I think the
possibilities of a world class gymnast making a world class diver is very
possible but moreso for a woman than a man. Men gymnasts peak at an
older age and I think it would be very difficult to reach an elite
international level after the age when many athletes are retiring. Women
gymnasts peak in their teens (mostly) and some have not burned out their
bodies physicaly. The background that the gymnast has would be VERY
benificial to a diver. Mentaly the switch to a different sport might keep
a person motivated where some of these girls get emotionaly burned out
and lose the desire to compete. Look at some of the former elite women
now doing NCAA! I think that there comes a point where an athlete has
enough. It comes at different times for different athletes but if the
motivation is there and the body is capable, a former gymnast would make
a superb diver. An elite athlete has qualities that will make them
successful in any activity they pursue.

Bruce



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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 22:04:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: <***@db.erau.edu>
Subject: Diving

Hey Gymn,
I had to add these comments about the relationship between
gymnastics and diving. From my research, there have been several top
gymnast (female) that have moved on to diving. Some were not great in
either sport, while some have done well in both. However, I have not
found anyone (yet) that has made the olympic team in both sports.
Another point, gymnast Heidi Hornbeek (U.S. team) started in
gymnastics after her diving coach suggested it might help her with her
"air sense". She has done quite well in gymnastics holding the second most
international medels. Second to Shannon Miller. :) In a "off the record
conversation" we had after the world trials, she comented that she may
return to diving for college. She has started to resume her diving
workouts. She said that she would accept scholerships in either sport,
but would perfer gymnastics, but injuries may prevent this.

Jaye
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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 94 00:08:53 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: Diving

Jaye said:

> From my research, there have been several top
gymnast (female) that have moved on to diving.

One other that was at the meet with Phoebe and Jenny Keim (I believe she
finished 15th) is former US Junior National Team member Robyn Lynn Carter.
If I recall correctly, she had trained with Phoebe and Kristie from 1985-86.

Mara

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 94 00:09:07 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: diving

Rachele wrote:

> There is a diver named Jenny Keim who is about 16, I
believe, who used to be a gymnast at Karolyi's. I have no idea what
level she reached in gymnastics; I'd never heard of her before diving.

I recall reading an article on Jenny that said she was at Karolyi's for 2 or
3 years, and had a career-ending back injury when she was 9 OR 10!!! She
then moved to diving.

Does anyone know if this is correct? The article was a few years ago.

Mara

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:37:59 PDT
From: ***@eworld.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: Scherbo


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Forwarded message:

>I'm not sure I agree with the Latin (if by that you mean Latin American, as
>opposed to Italian or something like that) part of that statement. (Also, I
>assume you're referring only to gymnasts when you say "athlete." Certainly
>this does not hold for many other sports, especially professional ones).

Yes, I do mean Latin American.

Yes, I am only referring to gymnasts. Despite my allegiances, I was disgusted
by the behavior of some of the women's speed skaters, both Chinese and
American, in Lillehammer. And certainly professional sports stars are (by and
large) pretty pompous and arrogant.

Professionally the only sport I am associated with is gymnastics. I am only
developing a lather about 'tudes because it is my fervent hope that our
magnificent sport does not go the way of so many others in international
competition: noted for the egos and personalities, not for the excellence on
the competition floor. The onus is upon us as gymnasts, coaches, and other
gymnastics professionals to insure that the sport does not follow "the dark
side."

Pretty heavy for a Friday, kids. Sorry bout that! Everyone have a nice
weekend! ;-)

David

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 94 00:13 EDT
From: <***@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: NCAA Men's Results

52nd Annual National Collegiate Men's Gymnastics Championships
University of Nebraska Lincoln, Nebraska April 22-23, 1994

Final Allaround; Preliminary team and individual results.
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ALL-AROUND
FX PH R V PB HB TOTAL
Dennis Harrison 9700 9775 9650 9500 9775 9800 58.200 1 Nebraska
Josh Stein 9775 9750 9600 9400 9525 9600 57.650 2 Stanford
Kip Simons 9450 9650 9525 9400 9750 9700 57.475 3 Ohio State
Richard Grace 9625 9450 9475 9300 9850 9700 57.400 4 Nebraska
Sumner Darling 9500 9550 9550 9300 9575 9725 57.200 5 Nebraska
Mark Booth 9650 9750 8850 9500 9725 9550 57.025 6 Stanford
Jing Wei Liang 9800 9725 9700 9250 8900 9550 56.925 7 Stanford
Tom Meadows 9400 9550 9550 9400 9450 9400 56.750 8 Oklahoma
Steve McCain 9200 9050 9450 9450 9750 9800 56.700 9 UCLA
Jay Thornton 9725 9150 9250 9150 9575 9750 56.600 10 Iowa
Blaine Wilson 9650 9650 9300 9250 9100 9550 56.500 11 Ohio State
Jeremy Killen 9550 9600 8950 9000 9600 9700 56.400 12 Oklahoma
Jason Christie 9500 9600 9550 9050 9200 9400 56.300 13 Nebraska
Chris Sey 9450 9600 9150 9150 8950 9650 55.950 14 Stanford
Drew Durbin 8900 9825 9400 9150 9550 9050 55.875 15 Ohio State
Garry Denk 9100 7950 9825 9500 9550 9825 55.750 16 Iowa
Steve Marshall 9450 9150 9350 9100 9150 9550 55.750 16 Army
Aaron Cotter 9400 8900 9400 9000 9300 9550 55.550 18 Iowa
Danny Akerman 9200 9300 9400 8900 9400 9050 55.250 19 Temple
Goncalo Macedo 8900 9600 9300 8950 9400 9100 55.250 19 Illinois
Casey Bryan 9550 8450 9300 8800 9450 9450 55.000 21 Oklahoma
Jim Foody 9400 7800 8350 9350 9650 9800 54.350 22 UCLA
Blaz Puljic 7900 9650 9200 8450 9150 8500 52.850 23 New Mexico
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TEAM TOTALS
FX PH R V PB HB TOTAL
Nebraska 47875 48250 47875 46600 48500 48225 287.325 1
Stanford 48375 48550 46850 46700 47225 47900 285.600 2
Ohio State 46350 48075 47675 46250 47925 47925 284.200 3
Oklahoma 47150 47350 46950 46600 46900 47600 282.550 4
Iowa 46725 45950 47525 45850 46925 48075 281.050 5
Penn State 45350 47125 45750 44950 46600 46600 276.375 6
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TEAM INDIVIDUALS

Nebraska
FX PH R V PB HB
Che Bowers 9875 9300
Jason Christie 9500 9600 9550 9050 9200 9400
Sumner Darling 9500 9550 9550 9300 9575 9725
Richard Grace 9625 9450 9475 9300 9850 9700
Dennis Harrison 9700 9775 9650 9500 9775 9800
Richard Kieffer 9400 9650 9200 9600 8900
Burkett Powell 9550 9400 9400 9700 9600
47875 48250 47875 46600 48500 48225 287325

Ohio State
FX PH R V PB HB
David Alexander 9400 9800 9200 9675
Peter Bastien 9250 9400 9600
Drew Durbin 8900 9825 9400 9150 9550 9050
David Eckert 9400
Scott Foster 8750 9150 9550 9550
Rodney Gendron 8950 9500
Nat Goodale 8800 9450 9550 9525
Kip Simons 9450 9650 9525 9400 9750 9700
Blaine Wilson 9650 9650 9300 9250 9100 9550
46350 48075 47675 46250 47925 47925 284200

Stanford
FX PH R V PB HB
Ian Bachrach 9700 9000
Mark Booth 9650 9750 8850 9500 9725 9550
Jamie Ellis 9450 8950
Aaron Kushner 9300 9300
Jing Wei Liang 9800 9725 9700 9250 8900 9550
Chris Sey 9450 9600 9150 9150 8950 9650
Josh Stein 9775 9750 9600 9400 9525 9600
Evan Wells 9725 9100 9575
Keith Wiley 9200 9400 9550
48375 48550 46850 46700 47225 47900 285600

Oklahoma
FX PH R V PB HB
Larry Johns 9300 9100 9450 8950 9350
Casey Bryan 9550 8450 9300 8800 9450 9450
Aaron Basham 9300 9450 9650
Jeremy Killen 9550 9600 8950 9000 9600 9700
Tom Meadows 9400 9550 9550 9400 9450 9400
Daniel Stover 9350 9550
Laurence Chavez 9250 9525 8850
T.J. Dortch 9450 9475 9400
Mark Seyler 9500 9200
47150 47350 46950 46600 46900 47600 282550

Iowa
FX PH R V PB HB
Aaron Cotter 9400 8900 9400 9000 9300 9550
Garry Denk 9100 7950 9825 9500 9550 9825
Carlos Herrero 9250 9400
Sean Juguilon 9350 9250 9050 8950
Hugh Lau 9150 9300
Jay Thornton 9725 9150 9250 9150 9575 9750
Mike Townsend 9250 9300
Rick Uptegraff 9800 9000 8800
Tyler Vogt 9200 9250 9150 9550 9550
46725 45950 47525 45850 46925 48075 281050

Penn State
FX PH R V PB HB
Brandy Wood 9300 9300 9550 9250 8850
Mark Cooper 8850 9100 9150 9350
Dave Riordan 9100 9450 9300 9150 9400
Lee Ricketts 9150 8750 8500 9400
Jim Delaney 9600 8800 9150 9200
Thomas Ellefson 8700 8950 9500 9450
Jean Marc Michel 9100 9200 9100 9300
Tony Pansy 9000 9625 8700 8800 9200
Joseph Roemer 8700
45350 47125 45750 44950 46600 46600 276375

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INDIVIDUAL EVENTS

STANDINGS Floor
Jing Wei Liang 980 980 9800 1 Stanford
Josh Stein 975 980 9775 2 Stanford
Greg Umphrey 970 980 9750 3 UCLA
Jay Thornton 970 975 9725 4 Iowa
Ian Bachrach 970 970 9700 5 Stanford
Dennis Harrison 970 970 9700 5 Nebraska
Blaine Wilson 960 970 9650 7 Ohio State
Mark Booth 960 970 9650 7 Stanford
Spencer Slaton 960 970 9650 7 UCLA
Richard Grace 965 960 9625 10 Nebraska
Casey Bryan 960 950 9550 11 Oklahoma
Jeremy Killen 950 960 9550 11 Oklahoma
Burkett Powell 950 960 9550 11 Nebraska
Sumner Darling 950 950 9500 14 Nebraska
Jason Christie 950 950 9500 14 Nebraska
Kip Simons 950 940 9450 16 Ohio State
Chris Sey 950 940 9450 16 Stanford
Steve Marshall 940 950 9450 16 Army
David Alexander 940 940 9400 19 Ohio State
Tom Meadows 930 950 9400 19 Oklahoma
Aaron Cotter 950 930 9400 19 Iowa
Richard Kieffer 940 940 9400 19 Nebraska
Jim Foody 930 950 9400 19 UCLA
Raul Molina 940 930 9350 24 Michigan
Daniel Stover 940 930 9350 24 Oklahoma
Larry Johns 930 930 9300 26 Oklahoma
Aaron Basham 930 930 9300 26 Oklahoma
Brandy Wood 930 930 9300 26 Penn State
Mike Townsend 920 930 9250 29 Iowa
Trent Wells 930 920 9250 29 California
Keith Wiley 910 930 9200 31 Stanford
Danny Akerman 920 920 9200 31 Temple
Tyler Vogt 920 920 9200 31 Iowa
Steve McCain 910 930 9200 31 UCLA
Hugh Lau 910 920 9150 35 Iowa
Shannon Welker 900 920 9100 36 Illinois-Chicago
James Lewis 900 920 9100 36 Army
Garry Denk 900 920 9100 36 Iowa
Jean Marc Michel 910 910 9100 36 Penn State
Dave Riordan 900 920 9100 36 Penn State
Tony Pansy 910 890 9000 41 Penn State
Rodney Gendron 880 910 8950 42 Ohio State
Drew Durbin 890 890 8900 43 Ohio State
Goncalo Macedo 890 890 8900 43 Illinois
Mark Cooper 890 880 8850 45 Penn State
Nat Goodale 890 870 8800 46 Ohio State
Joseph Roemer 870 870 8700 47 Penn State
Blaz Puljic 780 800 7900 48 New Mexico
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STANDINGS Pommel Horse
Che Bowers 985 990 9875 1 Nebraska
Drew Durbin 980 985 9825 2 Ohio State
Jason Bertram 980 980 9800 3 California
Dennis Harrison 975 980 9775 4 Nebraska
Ritchie Ellis 980 970 9750 5 BYU
Josh Stein 970 980 9750 5 Stanford
Mark Booth 975 975 9750 5 Stanford
Brian Yee 970 980 9750 5 Minnesota
Evan Wells 975 970 9725 9 Stanford
Jing Wei Liang 970 975 9725 9 Stanford
Mike Sivulka 970 965 9675 11 Army
Blaz Puljic 965 965 9650 12 New Mexico
Blaine Wilson 970 960 9650 12 Ohio State
Kip Simons 960 970 9650 12 Ohio State
Tony Pansy 960 965 9625 15 Penn State
Jason Christie 960 960 9600 16 Nebraska
Chris Sey 960 960 9600 16 Stanford
Goncalo Macedo 960 960 9600 16 Illinois
Jeremy Killen 960 960 9600 16 Oklahoma
Jim Delaney 960 960 9600 16 Penn State
Sumner Darling 960 950 9550 21 Nebraska
Tom Meadows 960 950 9550 21 Oklahoma
Rodney Gendron 950 950 9500 23 Ohio State
Mark Seyler 950 950 9500 23 Oklahoma
Richard Grace 940 950 9450 25 Nebraska
Nat Goodale 950 940 9450 25 Ohio State
Jeff Kraft 950 940 9450 25 Western Michigan
T.J. Dortch 940 950 9450 25 Oklahoma
Dave Riordan 950 940 9450 25 Penn State
Burkett Powell 930 950 9400 30 Nebraska
Sean Juguilon 940 930 9350 31 Iowa
Aaron Kushner 940 920 9300 32 Stanford
Danny Akerman 930 930 9300 32 Temple
Hugh Lau 920 940 9300 32 Iowa
Brandy Wood 920 940 9300 32 Penn State
Laurence Chavez 930 920 9250 36 Oklahoma
Carlos Herrero 930 920 9250 36 Iowa
Steve Marshall 920 910 9150 38 Army
Jay Thornton 920 910 9150 38 Iowa
Lee Ricketts 910 920 9150 38 Penn State
Steve Diem 900 920 9100 41 UCLA
Steve McCain 900 910 9050 42 UCLA
Aaron Cotter 890 890 8900 43 Iowa
Scott Foster 860 890 8750 44 Ohio State
Thomas Ellefson 880 860 8700 45 Penn State
Casey Bryan 840 850 8450 46 Oklahoma
Garry Denk 800 790 7950 47 Iowa
Jim Foody 760 800 7800 48 UCLA
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STANDINGS Still Rings
Dave Frank 985 990 9875 1 Temple
Chris LaMorte 985 985 9850 2 New Mexico
Garry Denk 980 985 9825 3 Iowa
David Alexander 980 980 9800 4 Ohio State
Rick Uptegraff 980 980 9800 4 Iowa
Jing Wei Liang 965 975 9700 6 Stanford
Imad Haque 965 975 9700 6 Army
Richard Kieffer 960 970 9650 8 Nebraska
Dennis Harrison 960 970 9650 8 Nebraska
Craig Holt 970 960 9650 8 Syracuse
Josh Stein 960 960 9600 11 Stanford
Brandy Wood 950 960 9550 12 Penn State
Sumner Darling 960 950 9550 12 Nebraska
Jason Christie 960 950 9550 12 Nebraska
Nat Goodale 950 960 9550 12 Ohio State
Tom Meadows 950 960 9550 12 Oklahoma
Kip Simons 955 950 9525 17 Ohio State
Laurence Chavez 955 950 9525 17 Oklahoma
Richard Grace 940 955 9475 19 Nebraska
T.J. Dortch 940 955 9475 19 Oklahoma
Steve McCain 940 950 9450 21 UCLA
Burkett Powell 930 950 9400 22 Nebraska
Drew Durbin 940 940 9400 22 Ohio State
David Eckert 940 940 9400 22 Ohio State
Danny Akerman 940 940 9400 22 Temple
Aaron Cotter 930 950 9400 22 Iowa
Steve Marshall 930 940 9350 27 Army
Dave Riordan 930 930 9300 28 Penn State
Victor Prisk 940 920 9300 28 Iowa State
Blaine Wilson 940 920 9300 28 Ohio State
Aaron Kushner 940 920 9300 28 Stanford
Goncalo Macedo 930 930 9300 28 Illinois
Casey Bryan 930 930 9300 28 Oklahoma
Sean Juguilon 920 930 9250 34 Iowa
Tyler Vogt 930 920 9250 34 Iowa
Jay Thornton 930 920 9250 34 Iowa
Jean Marc Michel 930 910 9200 37 Penn State
Blaz Puljic 920 920 9200 37 New Mexico
Shane Evangelist 910 930 9200 37 New Mexico
Chris Sey 910 920 9150 40 Stanford
Evan Wells 900 920 9100 41 Stanford
Larry Johns 900 920 9100 41 Oklahoma
Thomas Ellefson 910 880 8950 43 Penn State
Jeremy Killen 910 880 8950 43 Oklahoma
Mark Booth 880 890 8850 45 Stanford
Lee Ricketts 860 890 8750 46 Penn State
Tony Pansy 870 870 8700 47 Penn State
Jim Foody 820 850 8350 48 UCLA
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STANDINGS Vault
Doug Macey 965 965 9650 1 UCLA
Daniel Stover 955 955 9550 2 Oklahoma
Garry Denk 950 950 9500 3 Iowa
Dennis Harrison 950 950 9500 3 Nebraska
Mark Booth 950 950 9500 3 Stanford
Steve McCain 950 940 9450 6 UCLA
Larry Johns 950 940 9450 6 Oklahoma
Kip Simons 940 940 9400 8 Ohio State
Josh Stein 950 930 9400 8 Stanford
Keith Wiley 940 940 9400 8 Stanford
Tom Meadows 940 940 9400 8 Oklahoma
Jim Foody 940 930 9350 12 UCLA
Sebronzik Wright 930 940 9350 12 William and Mary
Sumner Darling 940 920 9300 14 Nebraska
Che Bowers 930 930 9300 14 Nebraska
Richard Grace 930 930 9300 14 Nebraska
Peter Bastien 920 930 9250 17 Ohio State
Blaine Wilson 930 920 9250 17 Ohio State
Jing Wei Liang 930 920 9250 17 Stanford
Richard Kieffer 920 920 9200 20 Nebraska
David Alexander 920 920 9200 20 Ohio State
Mark Seyler 930 910 9200 20 Oklahoma
Jay Thornton 910 920 9150 23 Iowa
Tyler Vogt 910 920 9150 23 Iowa
Dave Riordan 920 910 9150 23 Penn State
Scott Foster 920 910 9150 23 Ohio State
Drew Durbin 910 920 9150 23 Ohio State
Chris Sey 910 920 9150 23 Stanford
Rick Simonski 920 910 9150 23 Illinois-Chicago
Jean Marc Michel 910 910 9100 30 Penn State
Mark Cooper 900 920 9100 30 Penn State
Steve Marshall 910 910 9100 30 Army
Sean Juguilon 910 900 9050 33 Iowa
Jason Christie 900 910 9050 33 Nebraska
Rick Uptegraff 890 910 9000 35 Iowa
Aaron Cotter 900 900 9000 35 Iowa
David Kruse 900 900 9000 35 California
Ian Bachrach 890 910 9000 35 Stanford
Linc Myers 900 900 9000 35 Western Michigan
Jeremy Killen 900 900 9000 35 Oklahoma
Goncalo Macedo 900 890 8950 41 Illinois
Jeb Brandon 900 880 8900 42 UC Santa Barbara
Danny Akerman 880 900 8900 42 Temple
Jim Delaney 880 880 8800 44 Penn State
Tony Pansy 880 880 8800 44 Penn State
Casey Bryan 880 880 8800 44 Oklahoma
Lee Ricketts 840 860 8500 47 Penn State
Blaz Puljic 830 860 8450 48 New Mexico
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STANDINGS Parallel Bar
Richard Grace 980 990 9850 1 Nebraska
Dennis Harrison 975 980 9775 2 Nebraska
Steve McCain 970 980 9750 3 UCLA
Kip Simons 975 975 9750 3 Ohio State
Barry McDonald 975 975 9750 3 Illinois-Chicago
Mark Booth 970 975 9725 6 Stanford
Burkett Powell 970 970 9700 7 Nebraska
David Alexander 970 965 9675 8 Ohio State
Jim Foody 970 960 9650 9 UCLA
Jeremy Killen 965 955 9600 10 Oklahoma
Richard Kieffer 960 960 9600 10 Nebraska
Ben Auzenne 960 960 9600 10 William and Mary
Jay Thornton 955 960 9575 13 Iowa
Sumner Darling 955 960 9575 13 Nebraska
Evan Wells 955 960 9575 13 Stanford
Tyler Vogt 960 950 9550 16 Iowa
Garry Denk 950 960 9550 16 Iowa
Scott Foster 950 960 9550 16 Ohio State
Drew Durbin 950 960 9550 16 Ohio State
Dave Frank 960 950 9550 16 Temple
Josh Stein 950 955 9525 21 Stanford
Thomas Ellefson 950 950 9500 22 Penn State
Casey Bryan 950 940 9450 23 Oklahoma
Aaron Basham 940 950 9450 23 Oklahoma
Tom Meadows 950 940 9450 23 Oklahoma
Jamie Ellis 940 950 9450 23 Stanford
Dave Riordan 940 940 9400 27 Penn State
Peter Bastien 930 950 9400 27 Ohio State
Danny Akerman 930 950 9400 27 Temple
Goncalo Macedo 940 940 9400 27 Illinois
Aaron Cotter 920 940 9300 31 Iowa
Jean Marc Michel 940 920 9300 31 Penn State
Brandy Wood 930 920 9250 33 Penn State
Jason Christie 920 920 9200 34 Nebraska
Jim Delaney 920 910 9150 35 Penn State
Mark Cooper 920 910 9150 35 Penn State
Blaz Puljic 920 910 9150 35 New Mexico
Steve Marshall 920 910 9150 35 Army
Blaine Wilson 920 900 9100 39 Ohio State
Trent Wells 900 910 9050 40 California
Larry Johns 890 900 8950 41 Oklahoma
Sean Juguilon 900 890 8950 41 Iowa
Chris Sey 900 890 8950 41 Stanford
Jing Wei Liang 900 880 8900 44 Stanford
Laurence Chavez 890 880 8850 45 Oklahoma
Rick Uptegraff 880 880 8800 46 Iowa
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STANDINGS High Bar
Garry Denk 985 980 9825 1 Iowa
Dennis Harrison 985 975 9800 2 Nebraska
Steve McCain 980 980 9800 2 UCLA
Jim Foody 985 975 9800 2 UCLA
Jay Thornton 975 975 9750 5 Iowa
Sumner Darling 970 975 9725 6 Nebraska
Jeremy Killen 975 965 9700 7 Oklahoma
Richard Grace 965 975 9700 7 Nebraska
Kip Simons 965 975 9700 7 Ohio State
Chris Sey 960 970 9650 10 Stanford
Aaron Basham 960 970 9650 10 Oklahoma
Greg McGlaun 965 960 9625 12 Illinois
Josh Stein 960 960 9600 13 Stanford
Burkett Powell 960 960 9600 13 Nebraska
Peter Bastien 960 960 9600 13 Ohio State
Keith Wiley 950 960 9550 16 Stanford
Mark Booth 960 950 9550 16 Stanford
Jing Wei Liang 950 960 9550 16 Stanford
Steve Marshall 960 950 9550 16 Army
Rich Dopp 960 950 9550 16 Michigan
Tyler Vogt 960 950 9550 16 Iowa
Aaron Cotter 950 960 9550 16 Iowa
Scott Foster 960 950 9550 16 Ohio State
Blaine Wilson 950 960 9550 16 Ohio State
Nat Goodale 955 950 9525 25 Ohio State
Brian Ottenhoff 950 950 9500 26 Minnesota
Ritchie Ellis 950 950 9500 26 BYU
Casey Bryan 950 940 9450 28 Oklahoma
Thomas Ellefson 940 950 9450 28 Penn State
T.J. Dortch 930 950 9400 30 Oklahoma
Tom Meadows 940 940 9400 30 Oklahoma
Carlos Herrero 940 940 9400 30 Iowa
Lee Ricketts 940 940 9400 30 Penn State
Jason Christie 940 940 9400 30 Nebraska
Larry Johns 930 940 9350 35 Oklahoma
Mark Cooper 940 930 9350 35 Penn State
Mike Cline 940 930 9350 35 Air Force
Mike Townsend 930 930 9300 38 Iowa
Andrew Mason 940 920 9300 38 California
Tony Pansy 930 910 9200 40 Penn State
Jim Delaney 930 910 9200 40 Penn State
Goncalo Macedo 900 920 9100 42 Illinois
Danny Akerman 900 910 9050 43 Temple
Drew Durbin 910 900 9050 43 Ohio State
Jamie Ellis 890 900 8950 45 Stanford
Richard Kieffer 880 900 8900 46 Nebraska
Brandy Wood 880 890 8850 47 Penn State
Blaz Puljic 850 850 8500 48 New Mexico
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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 16:55:00 -0600
From: <***@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: NCAA Women

Lori asks:

What happened to Beth Wymer at the NCAA's? She had been doing
so well all season.

Beth had some trouble on floor and therefore got bumped from AA
contention. I don't have her score handy, but I will post it
tonight when I get back from today's meet. I believe she
overrotated and touched her hands down. I can be more specific
tonight.

I spoke to Beth during the press conference. We're from the
same town (Toledo, Ohio). She is a very nice person (but, then
again, who from Toledo isn't? ;^) She was a little disappointed
by her floor trouble, but this happens time and again, so in
gymnastics I guess you have to get used to random problems happening
during big meets. Hope Spivey fell off beam, so she's out of beam
finals. Charri Knight of OSU was a contender for AA and scraped her
feet on the mat during her low bar work. Whoops! Minus 0.3...

It would be interesting to do a study on a meet by meet basis to
see how many people that were serious contenders for AA or an
apparatus championship didn't even make finals or the top 6.
Gosh, it only takes a split second, then two hours later you're
trying to hold back the tears while answering the inevitable
question:

"What was the first thing that went through your mind after you
(fell, stepped out, whacked your foot, fainted) during your
xxxxxx routine..."

:^)

-George

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 23:50:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***@owlnet.rice.edu>
Subject: Nebraska sweeps men's NCAA

>From AP:

Nebraska won both the team prelims and the AA title!:

All-Around Finals

1, Dennis Harrison, Nebraska, 58.20 points. 2, Josh Stein,
Stanford, 57.65. 3, Kip Simons, Ohio State, 57.475. 4, Richard Grace,
Nebraska, 57.40. 5, Sumner Darling, Nebraska, 57.20. 6, Mark Booth,
Stanford, 57.025.

1, Nebraska, 287.325 points. 2, Stanford, 285.60. 3, Ohio State,
284.20. 4, Oklahoma, 282.55. 5, Iowa, 281.05. 6, Penn State, 276.375.

Qualifiers to Individual event:

Floor Exercise--1, Jing Wei Liang, Stanford, 9.80 points. 2, Josh
Stein, Stanford, 9.775. 3, Greg Umphrey, UCLA, 9.75. 4, Jay Thornton,
Iowa, 9.725. 5, (tie) Ian Bachrach, Stanford; Dennis Harrison,
Nebraska, 9.70. 7, (tie) Blaine Wilson, Ohio State; Mark Booth,
Stanford; Spencer Slaton, UCLA,9.65

Pommel Horse--1, Che Bowers, Nebraska, 9.875. 2, Drew Durbin, Ohio
State, 9.825. 3, Jason Bertram, California, 9.80. 4, Dennis Harrison,
Nebraska, 9.775. 5, (tie) Ritchie Ellis, BYU; Josh Stein, Stanford;
Mark Booth, Stanford; Brian Yee, Minnesota, 9.750.

Still Rings--1, Dave Frank, Temple, 9.875. 2, Chris LaMorte, New
Mexico, 9.85. 3, Garry Denk, Iowa, 9.825. 4, (tie) David Alexander,
Ohio State; Rick Uptegraff, Iowa, 9.80. 6, (tie) Jing Wei Liang,
Stanford; Imad Haque, Army, 9.70. 8, (tie) Richard Kieffer, Nebraska;
Dennis Harrison, Nebraska;Craig Holt, Syracuse, 9.65.

Vault--1, Doug Macey, UCLA, 9.65. 2, Daniel Stover, Oklahoma, 9.55.
3, (tie) Garry Denk, Iowa; Dennis Harrison, Nebraska; Mark Booth,
Stanford, 9.50. 6, (tie) Steve McCain, UCLA; Larry Johns, Oklahoma,
9.45. 8, (tie) Kip Simons, Ohio State; Josh Stein, Stanford; Keith
Wiley, Stanford; Tom Meadows, Oklahoma, 9.40.

Parallel Bars--1, Richard Grace, Nebraska, 9.85. 2, Dennis
Harrison, Nebraska, 9.775. 3, (tie) Steve McCain, UCLA; Kip Simons,
Ohio State; Barry McDonald, Illinois-Chicago, 9.75. 6, Mark Booth,
Stanford, 9.725. 7, Burkett Powell, Nebraska, 9.70. 8, David
Alexander, Ohio State, 9.675.

High Bar--1, Garry Denk,Iowa, 9.825. 2, (tie) Dennis Harrison,
Nebraska; Steve McCain, UCLA; Jim Foody, UCLA, 9.80. 5, Jay Thornton,
Iowa, 9.75. 6, Sumner Darling, Nebraska, 9.725. 7, (tie) Jeremy
Killen, Oklahoma; Richard Grace, Nebraska; Kip Simons, Ohio State,
9.70

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 13:02:51 EDT
From: <***@BBN.COM>
Subject: Phoebe Mills

Those who are interested might want to check out CBS's coverage
of the US Indoor Swimming and Diving competition
2-3:30 p.m. Sunday (Eastern time, but like other weekend sports
programs, it may be on at a different time where you are).

I know Phoebe competes in the 10 meter platform diving. I don't
know if she competes on 1 meter or 3 meter springboard.

I'm no diving expert, but she has improved by a couple of spots
from last year. If she keeps on the way she has, she ought to
be in contention for an Olympic spot come 1996. And you can last
a relatively long time at diving: Mary Ellen Clark, who I think
medalled for us in the platform at Barcelona, is about 30.

A number of the Soviet and Chinese divers started out
as gymnasts, but became too tall. Was this true of other
US divers before Phoebe?

>>Kathy

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 12:36:28 -0500 (EST)
From: <***@gateway.us.sidwell.edu>
Subject: spoil - Womens AA First Session

On Fri, 22 Apr 1994 ***@education.canberra.edu.au wrote (part):

> Elodie from France had a great stack on beam during warm up (missed her
> dismount) and ended up with a fractured cheek bone. (Lots of blood and
> guts when there have been stacks she said).

Um, this may be a stupid question, but what's a "stack?"

Lisa

P.S. Thanks to everyone who has been contributing to Worlds and NCAA
Championship coverage! I go to the gym every night saying, "Hey, Miller
didn't qualify for bars finals," or, "Guess who's the new men's AA world
champion? Ever heard of Ivan Ivankov??"

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 94 00:09:31 EDT
From: ***@aol.com
Subject: spoil - Womens AA First Session

>Just spoke to Nancy Raymond and she said first session was not really
impressive only gymnasts of interest were Hategan (Rom) who looked really
good and Groshova (???) who fell on beam.

Could this be Tatiana Groshkova. The fall on beam sounds like it, but Groshy
being there sounds like too much to ask.

Mara

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