gymn Digest                 Wed, 20 Apr 94       Volume 2 : Issue 107

Today's Topics:
                     (spoil) AP report on Worlds
                        (spoil) Men's prelims
                (spoil) more complete 2nd day results
             (spoil) prelims, 2nd day, top three in each
                   (spoil) some Prelims quotes, Men
                      (spoil) So where are they?
                          (spoil) W prelims
                 (spoil) yet more Worlds... (2 msgs)
                         AA Seeding Question
                           Big Apple Circus
                    Eating Disorders & Gymnastics
                           Gymnastics GIFs
                    Henrich (This is not a spoil)
                            Oksana Knisick
                          Rhythmic (Patrick)
                         spoil: Womens Floor
                Spoil: Worlds (Mens  Pommell & Floor)
                         This is Pathetic!!!!

This is a digest of the mailing list. 


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 07:55:41 EDT
From: ***
Subject: (spoil) AP report on Worlds


Associated Press

BRISBANE, Australia -- Defending all-around champions Vitaly Scherbo and
Shannon Miller had mixed fortune on the opening day of the world gymnastic
championships Tuesday.

Scherbo, winner of six gold medals at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics, was the
leading qualifier for the final of the men's floor exercises, but was
eliminated from the pommel horse event when he slipped and fell from the

The 22-year-old from Belarus stormed angrily from the arena after making the
error and finishing 32nd.

Miller, a 17-year-old from Edmond, Okla., who won three gold medals at last
year's world championship, was the fourth qualifier for the vault, but was
only ninth in the uneven bars event in which she was defending champion.

Miller won't even be a reserve for the eight-woman final because two other
Americans qualified and a nation is only allowed two competitors in any

Scherbo was in fine form during the floor exercise, in which he scored 9.637.
He is followed by Ivan Ivanov of Bulgaria (9.587) and Igor Korobchinski of
Ukraine and Ioannis Melissandis of Greece (both 9.575).

He did not compete on the rings, one of his gold medal events in Barcelona.

Yuri Chechi of Italy, the defending champion in the rings event, headed the
qualifiers for that event with 9.712 points. Dan Burinca of Romania (9.687)
was second, followed by Andreas Wecker of Germany and Paul O'Neill of Mandan,
N.D., with 9.625 points.

Marius Urzica of Romania, Mark Sohn of Boca Raton, Fla., and Vitaly Marinich
of Ukraine were the leading qualifiers in the pommel horse, tied with 9.662

Miller unveiled a new move -- a 1 1/2 twisting three-quarter giant swing to a
handstand on the low bar -- in her uneven bars routine, but was let down by a
poor landing.

''I had a little problem with bar routine, but hopefully I'll get it fixed
for the all-around,'' Miller said. ''I had a small hop on my dismount.
Hopefully, I'll get it fixed for the all-round.''

Lu Li of China scored a 9.900 to head the qualifiers in the uneven bars,
ahead of Lavinia Milosovici of Romania (9.825) and Svetlana Chorkina of
Russia (9.812).

Amanda Borden of Cincinnati, Oh., and Dominique Dawes of Silver Spring, Md.,
qualified for the uneven bars final by finishing in fifth place with 9.725

Milosovici headed the qualifiers for the women's vault final with 9.731
points, ahead of teammate Gina Gogean (9.724) and Yelena Piskun of Belarus

Miller scored 9.706 points to clinch her final spot.

Almost 300 competitors from 53 countries are competing in the six-day
championship, which continues through Sunday.

Qualifying will continue through Wednesday, with the men's all-around
competition on Thursday and the women's all-around on Friday. Individual
finals are slated for Saturday and Sunday.

Medals are awarded for each apparatus, with a separate competition and medals
for the all-around title.


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 06:36:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: (spoil) Men's prelims

These are only the results after the first round of men (ie there are
still many more to compete), but I got a lot of replies saying people
wanted into as soon as I got it, so here's what I've got:

>From UPI, the men's prelims, 2nd day, after just one session:

   1. Dan Burinca, Romania, 9.250 points
   2. Shigery Kurihara, Japan, 9.225
   3. Dmitri Vasilenka, Russia, 9.200
   4. Humberto Perez, Mexico, 9.175
   5. Krasimir Dounev, Bulgaria, 9.150
   6. Yuri Ermakov, Ukraine, 9.125   (<-- Susan, there he is)
   7. Jonathon Sianturi, Indonesia, 9.075
   8. (tied) Marvin Campbell, Britain, and Innocent Eragbhe, Nigeria, 9. 050
   10. John Roethlisberger, U.S., 9.025
   11. Alexander Suarez, Puerto Rico, 8.975
   12. Damien Crozier, Australia, 8.950
   13. Gilberto Da Silva, Brazil, 8.725
   14. Enrique Trabanino, Spain, 8.300
   15. Martin Staudacher, Austria, 8.025

 Parallel Bars
   1. Alexi Nemov, Russia, 9.537
   2. Huang Huangdong, China, 9.462
   3. Andreas Wecker, Germany, 9.325
   4. Andrea Massucci, Italy, 9.225
   5. Krasimir Dounev, Bulgaria, 9.100
   6. Nicu Stroia, Romania, 9.075
   7. (tied) Martin Campbell, Britain, and Yuri Ermakov, Ukraine, 9.050
   9. John Roethlisberger, U.S., 9.025
   10. Daisuke Nishikawa, Japan, 8.950
   11. Alexander Suarez, Puerto Rico, 8.825
   12. Dejan Locnikar, Slovenia, 8.800
   13. Carlos Garcia, Mexico, 8.650
   14. Peter Novak, Czech Ropublic, 8.625
   15. Dimosthenis, Greece, 8.475
   16. Cheng Kun Chieh, Chinese Taipei, 8.400
   17. Damien Crozier, Australia, 7.875
   18. Patrice Casimir, France, 7.825
   19. Kingsley Eragbhe, Nigeria, 7.475
   20. Jose Maria Barbuto, Brazil, 6.925
 High Bar
   1. Alexei Nemov, Russia, 9.375
   2. (tied) Jan-Peter Nikiferow, Germany, and Marvin Campbell, Britain, 9.325
   4. Vladimir Shamenko, Ukraine, 9.225
   5. Csollany, Szilvester, Hungary, 9.125
   6. Martin Riesner, Czech Republic, 9.050
   7. Andrea Massucci, Italy, 9.000
   8. Daisuke Nishikawa, Japan, 8.900
   9. Blaz Puljic, Slovenia, 8.875  (<-- Hey, this guy trains at AZ State!)
   10. Martin Staudacher, Austria, 8.825
   11. Mihai Bagiu, U.S., 8.750
   12. (tied) Tor Einar Refsnes, Norway, and Marius Urzica, Romania, 8. 675
   14. Jose Mario Barbuto, Brazil, 8.400
   15. Li Jing, China, 8.300
   16. Dimosthenis, Greece, 8.125
   17. Brenden Mand, Australia, 8.075
   18. Humberto Perez, Mexico, 8.000
   19. (tied) Enrique Trabanino, El Salvador, and Carlos Latorre, Puerto Rico,
   21. Patrice Casimir, France, 7.125


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 11:57:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: (spoil) more complete 2nd day results

Here's a press release from USAG.  For some reason, they don't have
one concerning the first day of events... o well.


USA's Dominique Dawes and Shannon Miller dominated the second day of
preliminary competition at the 1994 World Gymnastics Championships in
Brisbane, Australia, both qualifying for event finals in balance beam
and floor exercise.

Dawes (Silver Spring, Md.) captured first place on balance beam with a
9.837 and second place on floor exercise with a 9.825.  Miller
(Edmond, Okla.) took second place on balance beam with a 9.825 and
third place on floor exercise with 9.787.  Dawes was very pleased with
her performance saying, "I was thinking positive and trying my best."
When asked why she didn't seem excited she replied, "Because there are
still three more days of competition."

Miller wanted to hit her routines during the second day of competition
in order to make up for her first-day performance. "I didn't do as
well as I would have liked yesterday, so I wanted to go out and hit
solid routines. The last two days have been a warm- up for the
all-around competition."

For the U.S. men, Chainey Umphrey (Albuquerque, N.M.) qualified to the
horizontal bar finals with a 9.50 which put him in a tie for fifth
place after the preliminaries. Excited about his performance, Umphrey
exclaimed, "The crowd was going wild when I caught my release moves. I
heard them and I got pumped! I took a step on my dismount, but overall
I felt good about it."

Results for other American gymnasts are as follows:
>       Amanda Borden from Cincinnati, Ohio, finished 11th (9.550)
on balance beam and 29th (9.075) on floor exercise.
>       Umphrey also placed 20th (9.275) on parallel bars.
>       Scott Keswick from Las Vegas, Nev., finished in 13th
(9.450) on vault.
>       Mihai Bagiu from Albuquerque, N.M., had a disappointing
fall on his triple dismount from high bar, scoring an 8.75.
>       John Roethlisberger from Afton, Minn., scored a 9.025 on
both vault and parallel bars.

Qualifiers to the Finals

1  Dominique Dawes, USA/9.837
2  Shannon Miller, USA/9.825
3  Lavinia Milosovici, ROM/9.762
4  Qiao Ya, CHN/9.725
4  Nadia Hategan, ROM/9.725
6  Lilia Podkopayeva, UKR/9.687
7  Julia Stratmann, GER/9.625
8  Oksana Fabrichnova, RUS/9.612

1  Lavinia Milosovici,ROM/9.837
2  Dominique Dawes,USA/9.825
3  Shannon Miller,USA/9.787
4  Gina Gogean,ROM/9.687
4  Dina Kochetkova, RUS/9.687
6  Joanna Hughes, AUS/9.662
7  Hullan Mo,CHN/9.625
8  Elena Piskun, BLR/9.600

1  Yeo Hong-Chui, KOR/9.812
2  Vitaly Scherbo, BLR/9.662
3  Li Xianshuang, CHN/9.650
3  Grigory Misutin,UKR/9.650
5  Yoo Ok-Ryul, KOR/9.612
6  Suzuki Masanori, JPN/9.600
7  Murat Canbas, TUR/9.575
8  N/A

1  Huang Lipin, CHN/9.687
2  Ivan Ivanov, BUL/9.587
2  Rustam Sharipov, UKR/9.587
4  Vitaly Scherbo, BLR/9.575
5  Lee Joo-Hyung, KOR/9.550
6  Jung Jin-Soo, KOR/9.537
6  Alexel Nemov, RUS/9.537
8  Evgeni Chabaev, RUS/9.512

1  Aljaz Pegan, SLO/9.650
2  Zoltan Supola, HUN/9.550
3  Boris Preti, ITA/9.537
4  Csaba Fajkusz, HUN/9.512
5  Ivan Ivanov, BLR/9.500
5  Chainey Umphrey, USA/9.500
7  Vitaly Scherbo, BLR/9.475
7  Jari Monkkonen, FIN/9.475

Competition resumes Thursday, April 21, with the men's all-around
competition. Women's all-around takes place Friday, April 22.

Individual event finals are April 23-24. ABC will
broadcast highlights of the 1994 World Gymnastics Championships on
April 23, 24 and 30.
Check local listings for times.


The World Gymnastics Championships from Brisbane, Australia will be
on ABC television as follows:

Womens All Around:

4/23/94  4:00-6:00pm EDT   ABC

Womens Individual Event Finals and Mens All Around:

4/24/94  4:30-6:00pm EDT   ABC WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS

Mens Individual Event Finals:

4/30/94  4:30-6:00pm EDT   ABC WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS

Consult your local TV listings for times in your area.  Frequently,
local channels have the right to preempt or tape & shift times.


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 11:40:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: (spoil) prelims, 2nd day, top three in each

A mix of info from Reuters and AP:


Parallel Bars: Lipin Huang (CHN) 1st, 9.687, Ivanov (BUL) 2nd-tie,
Sharipov (UKR) 2nd-tie, both 9.587 Scherbo, 4th, 9.575.

Vault: Hong-Chul Yeo (KOR) 1st, 9.812, Scherbo, 2nd, 9.687, Li
Xianshuang (CHN) 3rd, 9.650.

High bar: Aljaz Pegan (Slovenia) 1st (9.650), Zoltan Supola (HUN) 2nd
9.55, Boris Preti (ITA) 3rd, 9.537, Umphrey (USA) 5th-tie 9.500,
Scherbo 7th (no score).


Beam: Dawes 1st, 9.837, Miller 2nd, 9.825, Milosovici 3rd, 9.762

Floor: Milosovici 1st 9.837, Dawes 2nd 9.825, Miller 3rd 9.787

"Shannon is getting better every day and by Friday we will see her
back in top form," --Nunno

"I feel really good about today. I was thinking positive and trying my
best.  I'm not getting too excited yet, because I know there are still
three days to go."  -- Dawes

"She [Dawes] was fantastic," -- Hill

"I went pretty good on the floor, but I think I need to clean it up a
little more before the all-arounds. I was pretty happy with my beam
routine, but I had a small wobble on my full turn. I guess it was
probably a loss of concentration." -- Miller

Miller, re being a crowd favorite: "They help me along... The crowd's
been great here."

"My warm-ups were awesome, but I was kind of nervous before my
routine, because I got cold standing there waiting. The guy before me
was injured and I had to wait for the stretcher to carry him off...
The crowd was going wild and I got really pumped up... I took a step
on my dismount, but overall it felt good."  --Umphrey

(Argentine gymnast Sebastian Alvarez was "lifted from the arena with
an injured right knee" from high bar, according to AP.)


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 06:50:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: (spoil) some Prelims quotes, Men

This info is from a AP story that I just read about how the Am men
(Sohn 1st, O'Neill 3rd in prelims) are doing better than the Am women
(4th was the best finish thus far):

"I'm very excited right now, but I'm just trying not to let it out too
much, because there are finals to worry about," said Sohn, a
24-year-old competing in his first international event in two years.
"We designed this routine to be first, and while I didn't do my best,
I have a strong routine and it did the job."

Paul O'Neill, a 28-year-old veteran, said the American men are
determined to be more competitive than in the past.  "We're going to
end that record," he said. "The judges know who we are now and we are
much better set up."


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 05:37:26 EDT
From: ***
Subject: (spoil) So where are they?

Several noteables seem to missing from the pack and if anyone out there who's
actually getting to see this knows anything I'd love to hear it (on the net
or e-mail)...

Ivan Ivankov BLR
Tatiana Lyssenko UKR
Ludmilla Stovbchatayia UKR
Yulia & Olga Yurkina BLR
Andrei Kan BLR
Yuri Ermakov UKR
Alexei Voropaev  RUS (and I heard for sure that he was supposed to be there!)

Valeri Liukin (I was under the impression that he was stil lcrazy enough to
keep going)

On the other side of the coin (ie. who WAS there), it was a nice surprise to
see Vitali Marinich competing for Ukraine. His career was rather sadly cut
short (he was only 20 or so) when after only one worlds ( 1989 for which he
was unprepared since he was put on suddenly after Bilozerchev and Gogoladaze
were...uhh..."removed" from the team and Liukin & Kharkov were injured) he
competed in the world professional meet from '91 not knowing that he would
then be unable to compete in other amatuer FIG events... something about a
paper he signed not being translated...nasty business that got both he &
Novikov kicked off  - or ineligable for, depending how you think of it - the
Soviet team.  Since Arkaev was there and didn't warn them - which, by the by,
Bilozerchev protested loudly enough to get him thrown out of a discussion
group - I consider it more the former than the latter.  Anyway, he competed
at the Birmingham Challenege (he was coaching at Woodward - where ALL the
Sovs seems to go - here in the US for a while) last October but I'd heard
little of him since.

It was also interesting to see Belenki competing for Germany now instead of
FIG or Azarbajean (sp?) (which was accepted into FIG). Does anyone know if he
is technically a citizen now or if some other arrangement has been attained?

As for the AA seeding...I can only imagine (and this is pure speculation now)
that there will be either a blind draw or some sort of "relative" positioning
(by EF qualifying scores even though they don't count...I'm not exactly sure
how they'd do this but FIG has been guilty of stranger things) so that the
best get into the last rotation...both for drama and scoring purposes. It may
work as the single entry compos did where they draw position by country and
then the indivdual coach can place anyone into any slot he's got available
(seems to be the most logical answer). BTW, did you know that in Dortmond
compulsories will again be competed as teams?



Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 09:36:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: (spoil) W prelims

Whoops, sent that last one off too soon, sorry!  I believe these are
the final prelims for women's V and UB.

Tuesday's qualifiers to event finals:



  1. Lavinia Milosovici (Romania)         9.731
  2. Gina Gogean (Romania)                9.724
  3. Yelena Piskun (Belarus)              9.712
  4. Shannon Miller (U.S.)                9.706
  5. Svetlana Chorkina (Russia)           9.693
  6. Lilia Podkopayeva (Ukraine)          9.668
  7. Dina Kochetkova (Russia)             9.662
  8. Oksana Knizhnik (Ukraine)            9.643  (<-- who??)

     Uneven Bars

  1. Li Luo (China)                       9.900
  2. Lavinia Milosovici                   9.825
  3. Svetlana Chorkina (Russia)           9.812
  4. Nadia Hategan (Romania)              9.762
  5. Dominique Dawes (U.S)                9.725
  6. Amanda Borden (U.S)                  9.725
  7. Dina Kochetkova (Russia)             9.700
  8. Lilia Podkopayeva (Ukraine)          9.675


Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 14:51:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: <***>
Subject: (spoil) yet more Worlds...

All right, folks, a few more details...

For some reason, I have no idea why, Scherbo did not compete on the
rings!  I guess that means he's not going to go for the AA.  I wonder
if this was a premeditated decision, or if he decided this after
falling off of PH...

Apparently, Miller her hit 1.5 twisting 3/4 giant swing to a handstand
on the low bar (that's what Nunno and the AP call it, I'd say a 1.5
twisting straddleback, but hey), but she had problems with the landing
(I guess she threw her double layout). "I had a little problem with
bar routine, but hopefully I'll get it fixed for the all-around. I had
a small hop on my dismount," Miller said.

The AP says that "Lu Li" heads the UB list, so I guess I was right in
guessing that Reuters was just spelling her name differently.

Here are the event finalists as listed by AP, with my notes thrown in:



   1. Yuri Chechi, Italy, 9.712 points.
   2. Dan Burinca, Romania, 9.687.
   3. Andreas Wecker, Germany, 9.625.
   3. Paul O'Neill, United States, 9.625.
   5. Szilvester Csollany, Hungary, 9.562.
   5. Veleri Belenki, Germany, 9.562.  (he's competing for GER now!)
   5. Jordan Jovtchev, Bulgaria, 9.562.
   8. Rustam Charipov, Ukraine, 9.537.
   1. Yoo Ok-ryul, South Korea, 9.537 (how'd they make this tie break?)
   2. Scott Keswick, United States, 9.512.  (so close!)
 Others Who Did Not Qualify
   12. Andrea Massucchi, Italy, 9.462.
   17. Chainey Umphrey, United States, 9.400.
   19. Hikaru Tanaka, Japan, 9.350.
   (tie) Shinya Watanabe, Japan, 9.350.
   21. Boris Preti, Italy, 9.325.
   25. Sergio Alvarino, Argentina, 9.250.
   (tie) Jurgen van Eetveld, Netherlands, 9.250.
   27. Alan Nolet, France, 9.225.
   28. Mario Franke, Germany, 9.200.
   (tie) Jonathan Sianturi, Indonesia, 9.200.
   (tie) Espen Jansen, Norway, 9.200.

 Floor Exercises
   1. Vitaly Scherbo, Belarus, 9.637.
   2. Ivan Ivanov, Bulgaria, 9.587.
   3. Igor Korobschinski, 9.575.
   4. Ioannis Melissandinis, Greece, 9.575.  (Greece!)
   5. Grigory Misutin, Ukraine, 9.525.
   5. Masanori Suzuki, Japan, 9.525.
   7. Neil Thomas, Britain, 9.450.
   8. Dashuang Li, China, 9.400.
   1. Alan Nolet, Canada, 9.400.    (still competing??)
   2. Jung Jin-soon, South Korea, 9.375.
 Others Who Did Not Qualify
   10. Orjan Dahl, Sweden, 9.375.
   13. Jan-Peter Nikiferow, Germany, 9.275.
   15. Andreas Wecker, Germany, 9.250.
   (tie) Georgios Papadimakis, Greece, 9.250.
   (tie) John Roethlisberger, United States, 9.250.
   25. Valeri Belenki, Germany, 9.125.
   26. Yuri Chechi, Italy, 9.100.
   28. Alexander Selk, Netherlands, 9.075.
   29. Chainey Umphrey, United States, 9.025.

 Pommel Horse
   1. Vitaly Marinich, Ukraine, 9.662.
   1. Mark Sohn, United States, 9.662.
   1. Marius Urzica, Romania, 9.662.
   4. Valeri Belenki, Germany, 9.612.
   5. Eric Poujade, France, 9.600.
   6. Igor Korobchinski, Ukraine, 9.575.
   7. Huang Huadong, China, 9.550.
   8. Li Donghua, Switzerland, 9.537.
   1. Chang Feng Chih, Taiwan, 9.537.  (another of those ties)
   2. Guo Linyao, China, 9.525.
 Others Who Did Not Qualify
   10. Yoshiaki Hatakeda, Japan, 9.525.
   18. Oliver Walther, Germany, 9.350.
   (tie) Yuri Chechi, Italy, 9.350.
   22. Thomas Zimmerman, Austria, 9.325.
   24. Nikolaos Kosmas, Greece, 9.225.
   25. Daisuke Nishikawa, Japan, 9.200.
   (tie) Flemming Solberg, Norway, 9.200.
   36. John Roethlisberger, United States, 8.950.


 Uneven Bars
   1. Lu Li, China, 9.900.
   2. Lavinia Milosovici, Romania, 9.825.
   3. Svetlana Chorkina, Russia, 9.812.
   4. Nadia Hategan, Romania, 9.726.
   5. Dominique Dawes, United States, 9.725.
   5. Amanda Borden, United States, 9.725.
   7. Dina Kochetkova, Russia, 9.700.
   8. Lilia Podkopayeva, Ukraine, 9.675.
   1. Shannon Miller, United States, 9.637.  (even if someone's
                     injured, she's not in bc of Dawes and Borden)
   2. Luisa Portocarrero, Guatemala, 9.587.  (too bad!)
 Others Who Did Not Qualify
   10. Hanako Miura, Japan, 9.587.
   12. Anita Tomulevski, Norway, 9.562.
   17. Virginia Karentzou, Greece, 9.525.
   18. Marilou Cousineau, Canada, 9.500.
   (tie) Mari Kosuge, Japan, 9.500.
   (tie) Monica Martin, Spain, 9.500.
   21. Chiara Ferrazzi, Italy, 9.375.
   22. Rufina Kreibich, Germany, 9.350.
   (tie) Michal Schaf, Israel, 9.350.
   24. Yuka Arai, Japan, 9.337.
   29. Stacey Galloway, Canada, 9.225.
   (tie) Elodie Lussac, France, 9.225.

   1. Lavinia Milosovici, Romania, 9.731.
   2. Gina Gogean, Romania, 9.724.
   3. Yelena Piskun, Belarus, 9.712.
   4. Shannon Miller, United States, 9.706.
   5. Svetlana Chorkina, Russia, 9.693.
   6. Lilia Podkopayeva, Ukraine, 9.668.
   7. Dina Kochetkova, Russia, 9.662.
   8. Oksana Knizhnik, Ukraine, 9.643.
   1. Andrea Molnar, Hungary, 9.625.
   2. Klaudia Kinska, Slovakia, 9.599.
 Others Who Did Not Qualify
   11. Larissa Fontaine, United States, 9.600. 
   13. Elodie Lussac, France, 9.593.
   15. Dominique Dawes, United States, 9.575.  (wonder what happened)
   17. Monica Martin, Spain, 9.512.
   19. Rufina Kreibich, Germany, 9.425.
   20. Niina Prajanen, Finland, 9.406.
   (tie) Hanako Miura, Japan, 9.406.
   22. Mercedes Pacheco, Spain, 9.400.
   23. Marilou Cousineau, Canada, 9.331.
   24. Chiara Ferrazzi, Italy, 9.318.
   25. Mari Kosugue, Japan, 9.312.
   26. Hu So-young, South Korea, 9.312.
   27. Sofia Pidoula, Greece, 9.275.
   28. Yuka Arai, Japan, 9.262.
   (tie) Elizabeth Valle, Spain, 9.262.
   30. Zita Lusack, Britain, 9.168.


Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 19:16:24 EDT
From: ***
Subject: (spoil) yet more Worlds...

>For some reason, I have no idea why, Scherbo did not compete on the
rings!  I guess that means he's not going to go for the AA.  I wonder
if this was a premeditated decision, or if he decided this after
falling off of PH...

Just a note since there is no need to qualify into all around he does not
need to compete on all events just be put in on Thursday (though I thought
the women's was first since it alternates and the men went first last time)
and score highest that night to win the AA.

They compete prelims the way the compete EF men in the morning (uusally since
it's a smaller draw) and women in the evening...based on how they did it in
Brummie anyway, They drew for placement and competed  in rounds which gives
us bizzare results (like Grigori Mistuin first on pommels - his routine,
unless it's undergone radical change is worth 9.1 the base score {9.0 + .1
bonus for the required D})



Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 21:39:50 EDT
From: ***
Subject: AA Seeding Question

According to the following, posted by Lynda last week:

>Day 3, Thursday April 21
Competition II, Mens All Around
Times: 13.30 - 15.30
16.00 - 18.00
19.30 - 21.30

Day 4, Friday April 22
Competition II, Women's All Around
Times 13.30 - 15.30
16.00 - 18.00
>19.30 - 21.30

the AA will be divided into three groups.  What I am wondering about is how
will it be determined who competes in which group?  As we all know, the last
group will get the highest scores (comparable - or uncomparable - to the
routines performed). 

Does anyone know?



Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 09:53:15 -0400
From: ***
Subject: Big Apple Circus

Getting away from the Worlds for a minute....

Last Friday, we went to the Big Apple Circus while it is here in Boston.  I was
expecting a typical circus-type event, something that would amuse our 3 year
old for a couple of hours.  Boy, was I wrong; *I* was completely enthralled the
entire time.

Alot of the show was based upon gymnastics and acrobatics.  The beginning had
the entire group tumbling around the ring, with aerials, fulls, double-fulls,
etc.  This lead into two women performing rhythmic gymnastics with routines
containing ribbons, clubs, balls and hoops.  These women were very talented.

One of the highlights for me was a handstand act performed by a very talented
acrobat/gymnast.  One of the props was a 4 foot high platform with stairs
leading down.  This guy started out in a handstand and hopped his way up and
down the stairs with ease.  Then he did it in a one-arm handstand!  At the
top of the patform, one other trick he did was a backhandspring to a one-arm
handstand (hold) and then proceed to hop around in a circle on that one arm.  I
was *very* impressed!

If this ever comes around to your part of the country, I would definitely
encourage you to take it in.  This circus is *definitely* not just for kids.



Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 07:56:05 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Campi

AP Article (s) on Campi's Injury...

McClatchy News Service

SACRAMENTO -- Gymnast Michelle Campi suffered a back injury last week in
preparation for the U.S. World Trials that has clouded the 17-year-old
athlete's future as a world-class performer.

Campi slipped off the high bar and landed hard on her back during practice at
Pozsar's Gymnasium on March 22, the night before she was to leave for the
trials last weekend in Orlando, Fla.

Campi injured three vertebrae and underwent six hours of surgery Saturday at
Mercy San Juan Hospital in Sacramento to relieve pressure caused by one of
the vertebrae pressing against her spinal cord.

''It all happened so fast,'' said Celi Campi, Michelle's mother. ''She
slipped off the high bar, flipped in the air and hit the floor from about
eight feet up.''

Celi Campi said the family consulted with several physicians before deciding
on surgery. Michelle Campi spent nearly 24 hours in intensive care before
being moved to a private room Sunday.

On Wednesday, the high school junior spoke about possibly returning to
gymnastics. She faces a second operation as early as December to remove a pin
that is stabilizing one of the vertebrae.

''Right now, I'm not thinking that far ahead,'' she said in a telephone
conversation. ''I just want to concentrate on my recovery. I'll probably go
back into gymnastics, but at this point it's hard to say.''

Campi said she believed she was performing well enough to make the U.S. team,
which is scheduled to compete in the World Championships April 16-23 in
Brisbane, Australia.

''I felt that I was well prepared,'' she said. ''I felt I was going to make
the team and I was happy with the way the training was going.''

The routine she was performing was one she had done several times in
practicing her dismount.

''It wasn't like a daredevil skill I was doing,'' she said.

In 1992, Campi injured her right elbow while practicing the floor exercise
the night before the U.S. Olympic Trials. That injury forced her to withdraw
from the competition.

 MICHELLE CAMPI faces the difficult decision whether to continue
a*gymnastics*career that seemed inevitably headed to the Atlanta Olympics in
    It's also a career that has seemed jinxed.
    Campi, 17, of Sacramento is in a full torso brace and recuperating at
home after an 8-foot fall from the uneven bars March 22 that fractured three
vertebrae. The next morning she was to have flown to the U.S. trials for the
world championships.
    Two years ago, on the night before the U.S. Olympic trials in Baltimore,
Campi dislocated her elbow in a fall and missed the meet. She was added to
the Olympic team through an exemption as the nation's third-ranked gymnast
after Kim Zmeskal and Shannon Miller but suffered a stress fracture of her
pelvis before the Barcelona Games and was replaced.
    ''I still am frightened,'' her mother, Celi, said last week. ''I saw her
hurt her elbow the night before the Olympic trials. This is an emotional
thing for me because I know how many years my daughter has put into this
sport. I cannot help but have a tinge of bitterness if this is the way it's
    Michelle Campi will be in the brace for about two months. Surgery is
likely in December to remove a pin that's helping stabilize her spine, and
doctors say she can resume*gymnastics*at that point if she wishes.

Sacramento gymnast Michelle Campi, 17, may be released from the hospital as
early as today after surgery to repair three fractured vertebrae, but
continuing her Olympic career is questionable at this point, said her mother,
Celi Campi. Campi lost her grip practicing her uneven bars routine March 22,
the day before she was to leave for the U.S. team trials for the
world*gymnastics*championships April 19-24 in Brisbane, Australia, and fell
about eight feet to the floor. In a full-torso brace she will wear for the
next two months, Campi was able to walk for the first time Thursday


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 07:56:39 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Eating Disorders & Gymnastics

Found this (and all the other stuff - though this one is kinda' old) on the
AP News Wire...Kind of Interesting how our sport is so peachy keen when it's
getting ratings and the "cute" ones are winning and when it's not then we're
the evil empire. What do you all think?

 Dallas Morning News

The agony and the ecstasy of women's gymnastics is this:

Christy Henrich, battling anorexia, her career over, has wasted away to
barely 50 pounds. Meanwhile, world champion Shannon Miller is bigger,
stronger and more competitive than ever.

Miller, the most highly decorated gymnast in American history, has two
reasons to look forward to this week's U.S. Gymnastics Championships in Salt
Lake City.

First, even though she has won the world all-around title, she has never won
that title at her own national championships. Second, the four-day meet at
the Delta Center on Wednesday through Saturday marks the end of a long,
painful season for the 16-year-old Oklahoman. Miller's father says Shannon's
lower back has been sore all year.

It's about time Miller won the U.S. all-around: She finished eighth at the
1990 nationals, she was seventh the next year, then she injured an elbow at
the '92 meet. Now, as the reigning world champ and the winner of five medals
at the 1992 Olympics in Barcelona, she is clearly the all-around favorite.

The gymnastic community's elation over her international success has been
tempered, however, by the tragic story of Henrich, 21, the former national
team member who is being treated for a life-threatening eating disorder at a
residential clinic in Kansas City.

Former world champion Kim Zmeskal and ex-Olympic stars Bart Conner and Nadia
Comaneci appeared at a benefit fund-raiser for Henrich last weekend. Her
family is struggling with medical bills estimated at $1,000 a day.

Eating disorders have long been a dirty little secret in women's gymnastics,
although recently the sport has come under serious and open attack. A
watchdog group has formed in Houston, and coaches have been charged often
anonymously and sometimes recklessly with the virtual starvation of their
elite gymnasts.

The problem, everyone agrees, is real and pervasive. Former Olympian Kathy
Johnson has admitted to having battled an eating disorder while she was a
competitor. Erica Stokes, another former national team member, quit the sport
when her ritual vomiting began to damage her health.

And several ex-Olympians have complained privately about the rigors of
staying in fighting trim just as their young bodies are going through
momentous girl-to-woman changes. Some of the gymnasts on the 1988 Olympic
team, sequestered in their dormitories in Seoul, pleaded with a team official
to smuggle a few M&Ms into them.

Christy Henrich's mother, Sandy, says that ``99 percent of what happened to
Christy is because of the sport.'' And Susan Stokes, Erica's mother, has
likened elite gymnasts to racing greyhounds.

Mary Lee Tracy, one of the country's more accomplished coaches, says she
often must defuse concerns of parents who have their girls at her Cincinnati
Gymnastics Academy.

``Sure I do, but eating disorders are psychological disorders,'' Tracy said.
``Coaches get blamed all the time, but a big part of this is self-esteem and
self-esteem should be built at home.

``The vast majority of coaches more than 90 percent of them are into having
their kids eat properly, fueling their bodies correctly.''

Miller has grown two inches and filled out to 79 pounds since the Barcelona
Games, and she remains the class of the American field. She is so good that
even if her back is hurting, she can water down the difficulty of her
routines and still win the meet.

She has been helped and pushed by Kerri Strug, her new training partner and
fellow 1992 Olympian.

``She's the real mystery person,'' said Paul Ziert, publisher of
International Gymnast magazine. ``She's so very talented, but she doesn't
realize how good she really is. She has been in three World Championships and
one Olympics, so she should be doing better.''

Strug, 15, often appears grim and nervous during competitions. At the recent
Olympic Festival in San Antonio, coach Steve Nunno teased her about having
actually seen her smile once.

``She just draws in,'' Ziert said. ``She needs to express herself more, to
speak up a little more.''

Originally at Bela Karolyi's gym in Houston, Strug moved to Nunno's Dynamo
club in Oklahoma City after the Olympics. Karolyi is taking a hiatus from
elite coaching, and there is much speculation about whether he will return
for the 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta.

Whether Miller and Strug can hang on that long is another often-asked
question. Miller will be 19 and Strug 18 when the Atlanta Games come around.
That's almost the Jurassic Age for women gymnasts.

``A lot can happen between now and Atlanta,'' said Bill Strauss, veteran
coach of the Allentown (Pa.) Parkettes. ``Injury, burnout, the Sweet 16
Syndrome. Lots of things.''

Miller and Strug aren't saying they won't be in Atlanta, and the fiery Nunno
has been talking them up as ``the best one-two punch ever in American women's

Financially, of course, it would be foolish for Miller and Strug to declare
themselves out of contention for '96.

``If you don't commit to Atlanta, you won't be attractive to the money and
marketing people.'' Ziert said. ``So it's easy for them to say, `Yeah, sure
I'm going to Atlanta.'''

Dominique Dawes may give Miller and Strug a run for the money and the
marketing deals. The 16-year-old Marylander, one of the few black gymnasts to
reach the elite ranks, is a pocket rocket on floor exercise. And she has a
new floor routine that gymnastics insiders all over the country are buzzing

``She offers American gymnastics something very, very exciting, and very
different,'' Ziert said. ``She has this immense personality. She allows us to
share her emotions with her while she's competing.''

``Those three Shannon, Kerri and Dominique they're the hot kids,'' Tracy
said. ``After them it's a big, wide-open field. It'll just come down to who
hits and who misses.''


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 00:12:00 UTC
From: ***
Subject: Gymnastics GIFs

For anyone who has access to Compuserve, there are currently 3 gymnastics
GIFs available in the Reuters News Pictures Forum:
1. Scherbo doing flairs on FX
 2. Miller on V
 3. Comaneci leaping in a field of cows (no joke) and wearing what seem to
    be the biggest pair of rubber boots ever made
Judging from previous experience in this Forum, there should be new GIFs
daily until the competition ends.
FYI, the GIFs are copyrighted by Reuters Ltd., are for personal use only,
and may not be reproduced or redistributed without their *express* written


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 11:12:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: ***
Subject: Henrich (This is not a spoil)

      The AP article (I assume) was written in September. Does anyone have
more recent news on Henrich? Whoa, 50 pounds? She's 5 feet tall and 30 pounds
lighter than Shannon??!! To quote Gimnasta, "eeee..."
      There's a cultural thing involved as well as the sports pressure as
well. Gymnasts and divers aren't the only ones here, folks. The "you look so
good - have you lost weight?" is a commonly asked question of women. Anyone
else care to contribute to a separate discussion on this via my  mail? Let me
know - athletics vs. cultural vs. gender aspects of eating disorders. An
interesting topic for those of us who follow this sport.
fyi - CBC doesn't seem to have much in the way of Worlds coverage as well..


Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 22:25:18 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Oksana Knisick

Someone  mentioned "who's she" so I thought I'd share what  I know...

The only thing I've ever seen her in is the '92 Stars of the World (Moscow
News) where she had reallyneat Strazheva-esque floor and did all these
cartwheel gainer combos (off both legs) on beam. She was all legs (back then
anyway) and struck me as really cool...hope ABC deigns to show her



Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 23:19:47 EDT
From: ***
Subject: Rhythmic (Patrick)

Sent only to me by mistake:

Hi, Gymn folks!

I'm a bit slow on the reply here, but I wanted to add my two cents to
Gimnasta's comments regarding rhythmic gymnastics.  I haven't seen
all that much of it, but I've liked what I have seen.  (Plus, from
a photographic standpoint, I'll take a 200-degree split leap over
a full-in any day.)

Perhaps someone else can fill me in as to how widespread this is,
but I have noticed at least some resentment toward rhythmic gymnasts
by artistic gymnasts who refer to their sport as "real" gymnastics.
Is there much of a "battle" between the two?

Gimnasta writes (in part):
> Plus, it is to me conclusive proof that what it takes to extract
> some artistry, or at least some amount of expressiveness, out of gymnasts
> to give it *real* importance in evaluating routines

I am intrigued by this statement, and I would like to know what people
think might be done to "codify" expressiveness in routines, or at least
give it more value.  I suppose I should check the code to answer this,
but as long as I am writing this, I'd like to know if there is a
requirement for presentation in the scoring or if a gymnast could perform
a difficult routine perfectly but with no "soul" and still get a 10.0.
(I'm speaking specifically about women's beam and floor exercise.)
If she could score a ten, perhaps routines should start below a 10.0
and only be elevated by "artistic" bonus.  If this is already the case,
perhaps the judges should judge more critically?

I realize that, artistic though it may be, gymnastics is a sport; still,
I too would like to see artistry give more value at the international
level.  Maybe then I wouldn't have such a collegiate bias. :)

Any other thoughts?



Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 05:37:43 EDT
From: ***
Subject: ROV

> I'd like to know if there is a
requirement for presentation in the scoring or if a gymnast could perform a
difficult routine perfectly but with no "soul" and still get a 10.0.

There USED to be a thing called ROV (Risk, originality, and virtuosity)
that accounted for a part of the gymnasts (male and female) total score (it
was worth different amounts at different times) but with this new code it has
been, sadly and to the vast detriment of the sport in my humble view,
eliminated (it had been coming for a long time).  For example, ROV allowed
for a piked full-in done with straight legs, pointed toes, and extraordinary
amplitude to be worth more than a pike full-in that barley made it around and
was sloppy in the air.  Under the current code a piked full-in is a "C' (for
girls ayway) and it's worth only so much no matter what. If  both tricks were
stuck they would be worth the same regardless of the obvious superiority of
the first full-in. In the interest of "fairness", and I use that word with
great hesitance in reference to the current code, ROV was removed and along
with it any credit for artistry or creativity - the basis of the sport. They
wanted fairer (yeah I know that's not really a word...but cut me some slack
here) judging. They therefore attempted to eliminate the "subjective"
elements (though any sport judged by humans is by nature subjective). In my
belief they screwed up big time and blew the sport all to hell.  Without
credit for originality...why come up with a new skill? Without credit for
form...why maintain it? Without credit for dance...why have it? Etc. Etc. All
leading up to the big question...Without ROV why have gymnastics at all?  Why
not just see how many whipbacks someone can do in thirty seconds and give
them the gold (oh yeah we did that already in Indy <grin>)? Yes, I'm cynical
and bitter (and those are my good points!) but I feel that it's not out of
line with today's gymnastics.

Getting of soapbox and shuffling out of the room,



Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 19:17:15 +1000
From: ***
Subject: spoil: Womens Floor

Just saw a clip of Millers Floor (9.7) and her beam (don't know score) and
she has made it into finals for both.   Dont know about Dawes.  Report said
Miller was being pushed by Huilin Mo from China.
Will ask Nancy tonite what happened to Dawes vault.
'Sleep is better than medicine'


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 16:59:31 +1000
From: ***
Subject: Spoil: Worlds (Mens  Pommell & Floor)

Andreas Wecker blundered majorily in pommell, he dismounted only halfway
thru his routine and it didn't look like  a fall.
 Lots of stacks on floor.
Have only seen highlights so far.
To top it off we've been moving offices and havent had the chance to post
the results, tho it doesnt matter as Rachelle gets them pretty quick onto
the net.
Have you been watching live Clive???
I'm going to ring Nancy Ray in Brisbane tonight and tomorrow night and get
her thoughts, will hopefully be a bit more organised on Friday and will be
able to post them.
'Sleep is better than medicine'


Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 07:02:38 EDT
From: ***
Subject: This is Pathetic!!!!

This is what "USA Today" considers "coverage" of the World Championships...

   World champion gymnast Shannon Miller seeks to be her dominant self when
she defends her title starting today in Brisbane, Australia."

If I comment I'll get in trouble  with the more delicate "Gymners" so I'll
just leave it at that...

Fuming in Cali...wish I was in Aussie!!!



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